Lame - teacher takes away pre-K's lunch and replaces with Chicken Nuggets

[Vtwin]

I didn't see them mention the name of the child or parent in this story and I doubt a preschool classmate will be gossiping to their parents about it. How did this story make it into the media? The parent took it there but asked not to be named. There was no public embarrassment and the family was not reported to any agency for providing what the teacher thought was an inadequate lunch.

I'm looking at the bigger picture of this trend in over the top do-gooding, not just this specific incident.

If you haven't heard of examples of these things than you aren't paying attention.

 

[Cythim]

I could not begin to imagine this type of thing happening when I was in elementary school.

Fast forward to today and it seems many don't have a problem at all with this incident.

Fast forward another 35-40 years......

If childhood obesity were an issue in the 70s they would have been doing this back then as well.

 

[Cythim]

I'm looking at the bigger picture of this trend in over the top do-gooding, not just this specific incident.

If you haven't heard of examples of these things than you aren't paying attention.

You are intentionally ignoring the fact that if the teacher was a do-gooder who calls CPS for an unhealthy lunch she would do so with or without the current program that is in place. This program gives her an alternative to calling CPS so the issue is not handled at such an extreme level.

 

[ShiningStar]

You are intentionally ignoring the fact that if the teacher was a do-gooder who calls CPS for an unhealthy lunch she would do so with or without the current program that is in place. This program gives her an alternative to calling CPS so the issue is not handled at such an extreme level.

when did turkey become unhealthy?

 

[YosemiteSam]

when did turkey become unhealthy?

It's damn good, but this turkey is unhealthy!

 

[Cythim]

when did turkey become unhealthy?

When did you miss the several comments stating the teacher in this individual case was wrong?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If childhood obesity were an issue in the 70s they would have been doing this back then as well.

Interesting point. I personally believe that budgets for education should be turned back over to the States and Local Communities. The Department of Education was founded in 1979 I think? I honestly don't believe that they are doing a very good job. Test scores continue to drop, this kind of thing, while I believe it is isolated, is the height of idiocy. Unless that meet was rancid or that bread was molded, there was nothing wrong with that lunch. USDA or the schools have no business making these kinds of decisions IMO. They can't do what they are supposed to do. They don't need the added burden of this as well, especially if the people responsible for this task does not understand the job. How hard can it be to look at a Turkey Sandwich, a bag of chips and a piece of fruit or Fruit drink and decide that it's OK? Schools do not need to be involved in this IMO.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's damn good, but this turkey is unhealthy!

You wouldn't say that if you ate it.

:laugh2:

 

[Cythim]

Interesting point. I personally believe that budgets for education should be turned back over to the States and Local Communities. The Department of Education was founded in 1979 I think? I honestly don't believe that they are doing a very good job. Test scores continue to drop, this kind of thing, while I believe it is isolated, is the height of idiocy. Unless that meet was rancid or that bread was molded, there was nothing wrong with that lunch. USDA or the schools have no business making these kinds of decisions IMO. They can't do what they are supposed to do. They don't need the added burden of this as well, especially if the people responsible for this task does not understand the job. How hard can it be to look at a Turkey Sandwich, a bag of chips and a piece of fruit or Fruit drink and decide that it's OK? Schools do not need to be involved in this IMO.

I agree with most of what you say, but I agree with the use of this program int he most extreme cases. The cheap/lazy parent who doesn't want to pay for school lunch and sends the kid to school with a bag of Cheetos. When I was in school 20 years ago I remember teachers confiscating items that were packed that obviously shouldn't be in a kids lunch such as the occasional candy bar.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree with most of what you say, but I agree with the use of this program int he most extreme cases. The cheap/lazy parent who doesn't want to pay for school lunch and sends the kid to school with a bag of Cheetos. When I was in school 20 years ago I remember teachers confiscating items that were packed that obviously shouldn't be in a kids lunch such as the occasional candy bar.

Precisely why I think it should go back to the local communities and/or the State level. If this happened, situations like this would be much easier to handle IMO. I have no problem taking away candy etc. from the children but the truth of the matter is that they children will eat it outside or hide it and eat it during passing periods etc. I don't agree with it but it happens all too often. There are occasions when even the licensed vendors or the schools themselves sell such things. Let each community decide for themselves what is right and then they must live with that. JMO

 

[ethiostar]

I agree with most of what you say, but I agree with the use of this program int he most extreme cases. The cheap/lazy parent who doesn't want to pay for school lunch and sends the kid to school with a bag of Cheetos. When I was in school 20 years ago I remember teachers confiscating items that were packed that obviously shouldn't be in a kids lunch such as the occasional candy bar.

The reality is that the ones that are benefiting the most are working parents who do not make enough money to pay for school meals or provide well-balanced nutritious meals for their kids on a consistent basis. The cheap/lazy parents become the focus of criticism but they are far and few in between compared to the hard working parents who just don't make enough to make ends meet, especially with current economic conditions.

 

[Cythim]

The reality is that the ones that are benefiting the most are working parents who do not make enough money to pay for school meals or provide well-balanced nutritious meals for their kids on a consistent basis. The cheap/lazy parents become the focus of criticism but they are far and few in between compared to the hard working parents who just don't make enough to make ends meet, especially with current economic conditions.

Right, at the end of the day the most important thing to me when it comes to meals is that my children are getting everything they need. If I forget to pack something I don't mind having the school help out by supplementing the meal. I also don't mind the school coming to me to let me know they think I need to adjust what I am sending for lunch. As a parent I realize I do not know everything and welcome constructive criticism from those who make a living of taking care of children. But this is my opinion for my children, their need for a healthy diet is more important than my need to feel like an adequate provider. Perhaps we just need one more form to fill out at the beginning of the school year so the teacher knows which meals they can mess with.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The reality is that the ones that are benefiting the most are working parents who do not make enough money to pay for school meals or provide well-balanced nutritious meals for their kids on a consistent basis. The cheap/lazy parents become the focus of criticism but they are far and few in between compared to the hard working parents who just don't make enough to make ends meet, especially with current economic conditions.

My experience is that you can pack a lunch for your kids but they are going to eat what they want. If crappy food is offered, they are going to eat it because they will like it better in most cases.

Billing the parents is beyond stupid to me, especially since school lunches are given away to those who can afford it and those who cant either way.

 

[ethiostar]

My experience is that you can pack a lunch for your kids but they are going to eat what they want. If crappy food is offered, they are going to eat it because they will like it better in most cases.

Billing the parents is beyond stupid to me, especially since school lunches are given away to those who can afford it and those who cant either way.

I agree with you, kids will ultimately eat what they want, especially without parental supervision. I also don't believe schools should be checking what students are bringing to school to eat and substituting it with something else and then charging the parents. They should, however, provide healthy alternatives at school and use the opportunity to educate students (and maybe parents) about healthy diets so that those students, along with their parent/s, can determine what they ultimately eat.

 

[Vtwin]

You are intentionally ignoring the fact that if the teacher was a do-gooder who calls CPS for an unhealthy lunch she would do so with or without the current program that is in place. This program gives her an alternative to calling CPS so the issue is not handled at such an extreme level.

I don't know if it is intentional or not but you are completely ignoring/missing my point.

 

[Cythim]

I don't know if it is intentional or not but you are completely ignoring/missing my point.

I understand the point you are trying to make, you think having teachers police lunches will eventually lead to teachers calling CPS because a child isn't getting good foods in their lunch. Teachers are already monitoring what kids bring from home, and the overzealous do-gooder will be more likely to call CPS if they are unable to supplement the child's meal.

 

[iceberg]

I understand the point you are trying to make, you think having teachers police lunches will eventually lead to teachers calling CPS because a child isn't getting good foods in their lunch. Teachers are already monitoring what kids bring from home, and the overzealous do-gooder will be more likely to call CPS if they are unable to supplement the child's meal.

so if they can't get their way they're gonna tell on someone?

i'm glad liberald support tolerance of other views and all, ya know?

 

[Cythim]

so if they can't get their way they're gonna tell on someone?

i'm glad liberald support tolerance of other views and all, ya know?

It is awfully nice of you to reduce it to such an immature mentality. Snitches end up in ditches, AMIRITE!?!

The point I am making is that they just want to make sure the child is taken care of, and providing them the means to do so will decrease the likelihood of them turning to CPS to resolve the issue.

 

[iceberg]

It is awfully nice of you to reduce it to such an immature mentality. Snitches end up in ditches, AMIRITE!?!

The point I am making is that they just want to make sure the child is taken care of, and providing them the means to do so will decrease the likelihood of them turning to CPS to resolve the issue.

well in this case it *was* immature of the person who did it. i'm not saying ignore hungry children but this wasn't the case, was it?

*in this issue* do you really think there was a chance in hell it would go to CPS? i'm not talking extreme issues then trying to compare.

i'm saying this person was an overactive idiot.

 

[Vtwin]

I understand the point you are trying to make, you think having teachers police lunches will eventually lead to teachers calling CPS because a child isn't getting good foods in their lunch. Teachers are already monitoring what kids bring from home, and the overzealous do-gooder will be more likely to call CPS if they are unable to supplement the child's meal.

Not really. Maybe sort of.

You are looking at it from a narrow perspective. I am looking at it as more a symptom of the disease.

Perfect strangers actually have the balls to give me a hard time for not wearing a helmet on my bicycle. This on a flat railroad bed turned recreation path. This never happened 20 years ago when I did a lot more biking.

I had the cops show up at work soon after I arrived one day last summer because some clown called them and told them a "biker" was 'driving aggressively waving his arms all around". LOL

A: I use hand signals to signal my intentions on my motorcycle because people (the same clowns who would call the cops) tend to notice that more than they do the turns signals.

and

B: How does one "drive aggressively" on a motorcycle during rush hour?

The cop actually apologized to me.

This lunch thing is not an isolated incident. People need to mind their own business.