Lance Dunbar will have to earn back the Cowboys' trust after two fumbles in last three touches

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Tanner fumbled in game #1.

ok, i dont remember, but alright, he probably did. I just dont see the talent in Dunbar that warrants, nor in Tanner, im ok if we find replacements, but if something is seen, by all means. But i just dont think wasting the time on either is productive or a good use of effort. I think both can be replaced and production can be the same. I dont think either offers something that say "wow, we need to keep this guy"
 

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I think that if that is the case, then yeah, you cut him but I don't think you cut a guy with so little track record. Believe me, if the fumbling problem doesn't get solved, I'm all for moving on. I just don't think enough time has passed to make that determination as yet. JMO

That fumble was pretty costly the other day. Drive killer & when you end up losing by a point one of the plays you look back on. I don't remember if they were in FG range or not at the time but they were moving the ball. I'm sure many on here do know.

I really don't know what you do with a player like this. Talented but he fumbles.

I just threw out the Jimmy analogy because my dad said Dunbar is the kind of player Jimmy made an example of.
 

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That fumble was pretty costly the other day. Drive killer & when you end up losing by a point one of the plays you look back on. I don't remember if they were in FG range or not at the time but they were moving the ball. I'm sure many on here do know.

I really don't know what you do with a player like this. Talented but he fumbles.

I just threw out the Jimmy analogy because my dad said Dunbar is the kind of player Jimmy made an example of.

you have to, Dunbar isnt special, hes not the guy whos going to start and teams dont care if hes on the field or not. You hurt nothing by cutting and getting another guy in there.
 

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ok, i dont remember, but alright, he probably did. I just dont see the talent in Dunbar that warrants, nor in Tanner, im ok if we find replacements, but if something is seen, by all means. But i just dont think wasting the time on either is productive or a good use of effort. I think both can be replaced and production can be the same. I dont think either offers something that say "wow, we need to keep this guy"

Dunbar is quick and shifty. Tanner runs hard. You must have not been paying attention when they played if you cant see that they have talent. Why you would you just release these guys make no sense. Who do you replace them with?
 

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and whats Dunbar done? I seen Romo make plays, i seen Romo put the team in position to win, ive seen his first full game against the Giants, a loss, but he was good, ive seen Romo improvise, and ive seen Romo change up to get the job done. Explain Dunbar and you're idea that hes got what it takes?

Well, I already said that he's not done anything. I also never said he "has what it takes." Kinda struggling to find the disconnect here.

What I said was that you are not the person in the best position to make the determination, which is true.

I said that had we taken this approach with Romo, he would not be here, which is true.

And all this nonsense about seeing Romo do this and do that, well, you never saw that until he was here for 3 years because he didn't play.
 

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The backups have 3 carries and two fumbles. That's pathetic. Murray has over 40 touches with no fumbles.

I thought we finally had a deep RB corps but alas...
 

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Dunbar is quick and shifty. Tanner runs hard. You must have not been paying attention when they played if you cant see that they have talent. Why you would you just release these guys make no sense. Who do you replace them with?

well, RBs have to go forward, so far ours are doing that, two or one other guy can do that as well. You have to go forward, just make sure the ball goes with you. Right now, five yards is fine as long as he has the ball. not hard to replace, your battery dies, pop another in. These guys arent saviors, they arent great talents, and they dont have track records of saying "you put me in and ill get that TD"

At least Choice had that " ill at least attempt to get you the yards" yes people were down on him, but a fair RB like what we have, if you lose it , your not losing sleep over it. Juius Jones, Felix Jones, we have a list of rbs that when they are gone, darn it you just dont lose sleep over it.
 

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The backups have 3 carries and two fumbles. That's pathetic. Murray has over 40 touches with no fumbles.

I thought we finally had a deep RB corps but alas...


dont lose sleep over it, oh we all wont, but alas many were fooled. You run forward, some people are just impressed.
 

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well, RBs have to go forward, so far ours are doing that, two or one other guy can do that as well. You have to go forward, just make sure the ball goes with you. Right now, five yards is fine as long as he has the ball. not hard to replace, your battery dies, pop another in. These guys arent saviors, they arent great talents, and they dont have track records of saying "you put me in and ill get that TD"

At least Choice had that " ill at least attempt to get you the yards" yes people were down on him, but a fair RB like what we have, if you lose it , your not losing sleep over it. Juius Jones, Felix Jones, we have a list of rbs that when they are gone, darn it you just dont lose sleep over it.

So I'm still not seeing where your replacing these guys. High draft picks?
 

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So I'm still not seeing where your replacing these guys. High draft picks?

anyone who can run forward and hold onto the ball. i expect fumbles, defenses are teaching that, ok, but i am saying if we lose dunbar or tanner, no one will notice. they are replaceable and anytime right now is as good a time as any. they dont scare anyone, no one cares if they are on the field, no team says "oh man, Dunbar, theres a possible TD" you know, we can replace them with generic runners, nothing special, maybe vet min at worse. Just go out there, go forward, hang on to the ball.
 

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That fumble was pretty costly the other day. Drive killer & when you end up losing by a point one of the plays you look back on. I don't remember if they were in FG range or not at the time but they were moving the ball. I'm sure many on here do know.

I really don't know what you do with a player like this. Talented but he fumbles.

I just threw out the Jimmy analogy because my dad said Dunbar is the kind of player Jimmy made an example of.

I can understand why your Dad would say that. He's not entirely wrong there. Jimmy would make examples of players but it all had to do with how talented the player was. For example, Swerven Curvin Richards was a guy who had a fumbling problem. Really talented back out of Pitt but he coughed it up. Once against the Bears, Richards was in for Emmitt and he fumbled the ball. Jimmy pulled him and told him, you cough it up one more time and I'll cut you on the spot. You will never carry the football for the Cowboys again. Sure enough, he did but Jimmy didn't cut him. Richards never got another carry and was sent to Detroit the next season but Jimmy did not cut him on the spot.

Richards was with the Cowboys for two full seasons and Jimmy did give him a chance to correct his fumbling issues. The guy had talent but he never overcame the fumbling and so he was gone.
 

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I can understand why your Dad would say that. He's not entirely wrong there. Jimmy would make examples of players but it all had to do with how talented the player was. For example, Swerven Curvin Richards was a guy who had a fumbling problem. Really talented back out of Pitt but he coughed it up. Once against the Bears, Richards was in for Emmitt and he fumbled the ball. Jimmy pulled him and told him, you cough it up one more time and I'll cut you on the spot. You will never carry the football for the Cowboys again. Sure enough, he did but Jerry didn't cut him. Richards never got another carry and was sent to Detroit the next season but Jimmy did not cut him on the spot.

Richards was with the Cowboys for two full seasons and Jimmy did give him a chance to correct his fumbling issues. The guy had talent but he never overcame the fumbling and so he was gone.

Did you see the A FOOTBALL LIFE on Jimmy? He talked about cutting guys & letting his star players slide.
I like Jimmy. Well the guy he is now. Seems then he was one hard guy.

I'm not sure what they do with Dunbar. We need all the offense we can get. I just don't know about this guy.
 

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Did you see the A FOOTBALL LIFE on Jimmy? He talked about cutting guys & letting his star players slide.
I like Jimmy. Well the guy he is now. Seems then he was one hard guy.

I'm not sure what they do with Dunbar. We need all the offense we can get. I just don't know about this guy.

Yeah, a lot different guy for sure.

On Dunbar, I don't either. I mean, we won't know until we have more data with which to base a decision on.
 

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Yeah, a lot different guy for sure.

On Dunbar, I don't either. I mean, we won't know until we have more data with which to base a decision on.

Yea true. Our running game is extinct so my guess is he'll get some carries Sunday.
 

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I can understand why your Dad would say that. He's not entirely wrong there. Jimmy would make examples of players but it all had to do with how talented the player was. For example, Swerven Curvin Richards was a guy who had a fumbling problem. Really talented back out of Pitt but he coughed it up. Once against the Bears, Richards was in for Emmitt and he fumbled the ball. Jimmy pulled him and told him, you cough it up one more time and I'll cut you on the spot. You will never carry the football for the Cowboys again. Sure enough, he did but Jimmy didn't cut him. Richards never got another carry and was sent to Detroit the next season but Jimmy did not cut him on the spot.

Richards was with the Cowboys for two full seasons and Jimmy did give him a chance to correct his fumbling issues. The guy had talent but he never overcame the fumbling and so he was gone.

Actually, Richards was cut the next day, right before the team went to the playoffs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/080918

It is near the bottom of the article.
 

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The offense needs his game breaking speed and shiftiness, SMH too bad he has ball security issues! No good to anyone if you turn the ball over repeatedly!
 

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Actually, Richards was cut the next day, right before the team went to the playoffs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/080918

It is near the bottom of the article.

But not right on the spot and he did get paid for the playoffs. I said that he never carried the ball again for the Cowboys, which is true, but the point here was that even though he fumbled, he had two years to get it right. He didn't do it but he got a chance. That's all I'm saying.
 
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