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WILLIAMS ADDRESSES TRADE RUMORS

Posted by Mike Florio on March 26, 2008, 12:07 p.m.

Lions receiver Roy Williams has heard the rumors that he’s on the trading block. And he appears to be fine with staying, or with going.

“If it’s a football decision, it’s a dumb decision,” Williams said Tuesday. “But if it’s a business decision, then it’s going to be pretty good.”

Good for whom? At a minimum, good for Williams, since it means that he’d likely get a new contract as part of the transaction. (Note to any team interested in trading for Williams — make sure that you have permission to talk to his agent about a new deal before doing so.)
Williams is entering the final year of his rookie contract. Though he’s the only one of three wideouts taken by the Lions in the top ten of the draft during three straight years who turned out to be a good player, the Lions’ most recent high-end wideout, Calvin Johnson, likely will make Williams a luxury that the team doesn’t need, and can’t afford.

It’ll surely take a deal worth $10 million per year or more to keep Williams beyond 2008. So why not get value for him now and build around Johnson? Otherwise, the Lions eventually will find themselves in a situation where they’ve got to give Johnson $12 million per year or more, if the market continues to expand as it has. That’s simply too much money to invest in the receiver position.
Though Williams says he’d like to stay with the Lions, he’s realistic about the situation.

“I’m ready to do whatever,” he said. “If they want to make me a Lion for life, I’m good with that. If not, I’m just going to play my type of ball and see what happens after that.”

What happens after that could very well be the Lions watching him walk away with no compensation. So why not trade him now?

Then again, they also could slap the franchise tag on him in 2009, and trade him then. Assuming that they have the cap room to accomodate a one-year cap charge of roughly $9 million.

Williams has been linked most often in trade rumors to the Eagles, who made a run at Randy Moss in free agency, and reportedly tried to trade for Larry Fitzgerald.
 

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It’ll surely take a deal worth $10 million per year or more to keep Williams beyond 2008. So why not get value for him now and build around Johnson?

What happens after that could very well be the Lions watching him walk away with no compensation. So why not trade him now?

Listen to PFT, Millen!
 

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Nothing new here, other than Roy Williams admitting the possibility he is going to be traded...
 

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I think Roy needs to grow a pair and speak up if he wants to go 'back home'.

This 'whatever they want to do' routine won't help get anything done.

With the way he's talking, it's all about the money. If that's true, he could very well wind up playing for the Eagles.
 

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stasheroo;2012917 said:
I think Roy needs to grow a pair and speak up if he wants to go 'back home'.

This 'whatever they want to do' routine won't help get anything done.

With the way he's talking, it's all about the money. If that's true, he could very well wind up playing for the Eagles.

If he projects the image that he only wants to play in Texas, he will get low-balled... He still wants to play in Texas, but at a high price...
 

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stasheroo;2012917 said:
I think Roy needs to grow a pair and speak up if he wants to go 'back home'.

This 'whatever they want to do' routine won't help get anything done.

With the way he's talking, it's all about the money. If that's true, he could very well wind up playing for the Eagles.
He has...

http://www.spartannation.com/?p=3730

...he's in good soldier mode where he is not going to rock the boat.

Lions Taking a Huge Gamble with Roy Williams

By Hondo S. Carpenter Sr.
Lions Taking a Huge Gamble with Roy Williams

I have never hid the fact that I believe in Rod Marinelli and Matt Millen. As I have stated many times, Millen gets the blame for a lot of things that he wasn’t the deciding factor on, but that is for another article. This time however, M and M are taking a huge gamble that Lions’ fans have to hope pays off. It is a high-risk high reward scenario.

Roy Williams is a native Texan and is strongly tied to that community both with family and incredible dedication to off field issues and organizations there. Williams has not hid the fact that he would love to play in Texas. Williams wants to make the move. Williams has also made it clear that resigning with Detroit is by far a certainty.

I have advocated for over a year that the Lions needed to resign Williams. I have also advocated that if they couldn’t resign him, then they had to look at trading him so as to not lose him with no remuneration. Now some have said that was foolish, because the Lions could simply franchise him. That move however is highly unlikely because the Lions have sunk tens of millions of dollars into the WR position and that kind of a commitment would be unlikely at this point.

The Cowboys and the Texans would have been players in the Williams sweepstakes, but the Lions after looking at what was available were not. The Lions love the idea of Calvin Johnson and Roy Williams on the field together. Who can blame them? What the Lions are doing is hoping that the changes in the Lions scheme (read dumping Martz) and corresponding success by Williams may open the door for him to resign.

That theory is not out of the realm of possibility, but certainly not a certainty. I know for a fact that Williams loves Marinelli. I also know for a fact that being so far away from family has been very difficult for him. Can you blame a man that wants to be a better dad? Can you blame a man who gives so freely of himself to multiple charities and functions in his home of Texas for wanting to be closer to where his heart is?
 

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Don't take this the wrong way, I want to see us steal R. Williams as much as any other Cowboy.......... but I have to disagree with these rediculous theroies on why he "must" be traded.

What makes PFT believe 10 mil for Williams in a deal starting 2009 and 12 mil for Johnson in a deal that might be 2010, is too much money.

Thats BS! There is no such thing as having too much money invested in a unit when you're referring to starting players.

Paying 8 mil a year to a backup QB when you're paying the starter 10 mil, now that too much money allocated to a unit.

But there is no such thing as overpaying a starting unit as long as you are not overpaying a player in that unit. That's the key!

If you have 3 O-lineman making 7 mil a year, 2 safeties making 5 mil a year 2 CB's making 9 mil or even 2 WR's making 10 mil a year its ok as long as your playing to that strenght.

Whats not ok is giving away talent.
 

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It's JJ's duty to bring R Williams home.

It's the American thing to do. :D
 

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Mongo like wide receivers.

Matt Millen has his receiver rotation in full motion. Draft 'em, then wave good-bye to 'em a couple of years later.

Come on, Mongo, do it again. Trade RW to Dallas and pick another receiver in the first round this year.
 

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Chief;2012967 said:
Mongo like wide receivers.

Matt Millen has his receiver rotation in full motion. Draft 'em, then wave good-bye to 'em a couple of years later.

Come on, Mongo, do it again. Trade RW to Dallas and pick another receiver in the first round this year.
He can draft Devin Thomas the Michigan State kid and trade Roy and the Lions faithful will be ecstatic.
 

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Hostile;2012970 said:
He can draft Devin Thomas the Michigan State kid and trade Roy and the Lions faithful will be ecstatic.

Yeah, it'll bring back great memories of.............



Oh wait.......
 

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Chief;2012967 said:
Mongo like wide receivers.

Matt Millen has his receiver rotation in full motion. Draft 'em, then wave good-bye to 'em a couple of years later.

Come on, Mongo, do it again. Trade RW to Dallas and pick another receiver in the first round this year.

Nah, get RW and grab a CB and rb in the first.
 

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I've got a feeling that maybe the Lions are looking at it just one way. They could trade him, but right now they're trying to drive up the price by saying he's not on the table, or they've decided that they're not going to trade him and then next season they might just franchise tag him so that they either get 2 #1 picks for him or so that they get him for at least one more year. I could see it playing out just like that.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2013015 said:
I've got a feeling that maybe the Lions are looking at it just one way. They could trade him, but right now they're trying to drive up the price by saying he's not on the table, or they've decided that they're not going to trade him and then next season they might just franchise tag him so that they either get 2 #1 picks for him or so that they get him for at least one more year. I could see it playing out just like that.
If they don't Franchise tag him they will lose him because he will be an Unrestricted Free Agent. You can tender an offer for a Restricted Free Agent and receive compensation. If they use the Franchise tag on him it will tie up an incredible percentage of their salary at WR and with Calvin Johnson receiving the big bonus last year will make it impossible for them to do anything.

Their best move is to trade him and they know it. This is posturing.
 

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Hostile;2013033 said:
If they don't Franchise tag him they will lose him because he will be an Unrestricted Free Agent. You can tender an offer for a Restricted Free Agent and receive compensation. If they use the Franchise tag on him it will tie up an incredible percentage of their salary at WR and with Calvin Johnson receiving the big bonus last year will make it impossible for them to do anything.

Their best move is to trade him and they know it. This is posturing.
Sounds like you know something, Hos. I would love to have Roy Williams over Boldin or Johnson.
 

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The Rawhide Kid;2013036 said:
Sounds like you know something, Hos. I would love to have Roy Williams over Boldin or Johnson.
Anything in the works could very well fall apart and they could hang on to him in the vain hope that he will re-sign with them without them using the Franchise Tag.

He won't.

It'll either end up with him traded for compensation, or it will likely blow up right in their faces.

2008 or 2009, one or the other, I expect him to be a Cowboy. I've been saying it since September.
 

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The Rawhide Kid;2013036 said:
Sounds like you know something, Hos. I would love to have Roy Williams over Boldin or Johnson.
i'd rather have boldin. ocho cinco is a bigger clown than t.o. used to be. he also makes these great catches but drops to many easy ones. roy is a clown too. he talks a big gameand makes all these predictions that don't come true. boldin on the other hand doesn't say anything and let's his play due the talking. but in the end i don't think we will get either one of them this year.
 
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