Latest Peterson twitter Rumor

[gimmesix]

I understand the line of thought on AD's contract but honestly, if we were going to shell out big dollars for a RB, we probably would have done it with Murray. We've already signed McFadden for 5 Mil plus. I don't think a one year deal at 12.7 is something that will fit our cap situation.

Again, I don't think the total amount of money on Murray was the issue, only the guaranteed money. Dallas was willing (from what I read) to offer $12 million in guaranteed money, which is essentially what it would pay Peterson for this year (although, granted, Murray wouldn't have cost that much against the cap). Dallas rightly balked at the guaranteed money for Murray because of the dead money it would potentially create (no way do you want to be on the books for $13 million in 2016 if he falls off the ledge due to wear and tear or injuries, or $18 million this year if he blows out before the season).

Contracts can be reworked to fit Peterson under the cap this year so I don't think it would be a problem getting him to "fit," then if Dallas wants to next year, it could release him and clear him off the cap without any repercussions, or renegotiate with him according to his play. To me, that would be the biggest issue with doing it, that Peterson's cost goes up from here, so it's either pay another $14 million-plus for him in 2016, cut him or redo the contract.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Nope. I would not give up two draft picks like that.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Again, I don't think the total amount of money on Murray was the issue, only the guaranteed money. Dallas was willing (from what I read) to offer $12 million in guaranteed money, which is essentially what it would pay Peterson for this year (although, granted, Murray wouldn't have cost that much against the cap). Dallas rightly balked at the guaranteed money for Murray because of the dead money it would potentially create (no way do you want to be on the books for $13 million in 2016 if he falls off the ledge due to wear and tear or injuries, or $18 million this year if he blows out before the season).

Contracts can be reworked to fit Peterson under the cap this year so I don't think it would be a problem getting him to "fit," then if Dallas wants to next year, it could release him and clear him off the cap without any repercussions, or renegotiate with him according to his play. To me, that would be the biggest issue with doing it, that Peterson's cost goes up from here, so it's either pay another $14 million-plus for him in 2016, cut him or redo the contract.

12 Million Guaranteed over how long? A season or multiple seasons? I don't think that number will work for us. I guess we'll see soon enough. If we trade for that, then we will know. If not, then we'll know.

Contracts can be reworked but what is the incentive for AD to rework a contract? All that does is commit us for more money and a longer term. No, I don't see that happening in a trade scenario, AD taking less money.

 

[BigStar]

Signing Hardy and drafting a RB to start or couple with Randle/Williams/Dunbar is the smart move going forward. Would make a great off season just to sign Hardy and not overpay any RB tbh.

 

[gimmesix]

12 Million Guaranteed over how long? A season or multiple seasons? I don't think that number will work for us. I guess we'll see soon enough. If we trade for that, then we will know. If not, then we'll know.

For Murray? I don't know if we were seeking a four-year deal or five-year deal. Dallas appeared to be willing to take the risk of that cap hit either way if Murray broke down, but not the kind of hit Philly would take, while the total of the deal ($42 million) didn't matter ... as most totals don't because so much of it is back end money that the player will never see.

Yes, it will be interesting to see where Dallas goes with this (which seems most likely to be the draft). I just wanted, after thinking about it, to present how Peterson's current contract could be perceived. We see it as prohibitive, but the lack of guaranteed money might actually be inviting (although teams obviously would like to be invited for much less than his base salaries).

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

For Murray? I don't know if we were seeking a four-year deal or five-year deal. Dallas appeared to be willing to take the risk of that cap hit either way if Murray broke down, but not the kind of hit Philly would take.

Yes, it will be interesting to see where Dallas goes with this (which seems most likely to be the draft). I just wanted, after thinking about it, to present how his current contract could be perceived. We see it as prohibitive, but the lack of guaranteed money might actually be inviting (although teams obviously would like to be invited for much less than his base salaries).

It was a 4 year deal, according to reports. It was 6 Million per season.

 

[gimmesix]

It was a 4 year deal, according to reports. It was 6 Million per season.

Thanks. Couldn't remember.

 

[yimyammer]

So if the 2nd round rumor from AZ was BS by Rosenhaus, most likely scenario is APs eventual release. If that's the case, we'd be in the drivers seat if AP would sign a cap friendly deal. With recent news that Hardy may be facing a 6 game ban, this may be the only "splash move" remaining.

What we need AP to do is refuse to negotiate his contract with anyone and thereby force Minny to release him and then he would be free to negotiate with any team ( perhaps waiver order comes into play) and no team would have to give up a draft pick. Then the Cowboys could kick tires on AP and see if he really wants to play for the Cowboys by giving them a team friendly, incentive laden contract.

I'd like to see how that would turn out

 

[NEODOG]

What we need AP to do is refuse to negotiate his contract with anyone and thereby force Minny to release him and then he would be free to negotiate with any team ( perhaps waiver order comes into play) and no team would have to give up a draft pick. Then the Cowboys could kick tires on AP and see if he really wants to play for the Cowboys by giving them a team friendly, incentive laden contract.

I'd like to see how that would turn out

Winner winner chicken dinner..... This is EXACTLY what's going to happen! I expect something I August as his contract becomes paid the 1st game.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

Signing Hardy and drafting a RB to start or couple with Randle/Williams/Dunbar is the smart move going forward. Would make a great off season just to sign Hardy and not overpay any RB tbh.

This. From January, this has been my hope. Do not overpay Murray or Peterson in this RB-heavy draft. But definitely get a true difference-making pass rusher. Now that all but Hardy are gone, we need to sign Hardy, regardless of the possibility of suspension, if the contract is cap-friendly enough. I think this one moves makes our offseason and gives us flexibility in the draft.

 

[iceberg]

I feel you iceberg lots of what if's but I just feel like we need to act now, there is a also a chance McFadden could go nuts next year and be the back we all thought he would be when he hit the draft

and in almost every instance I can think of that "act now" has made us to stupid things in order to have said we "acted now". if Peterson was the key to winning a superbowl I'd have to think he would have one by now.

to a point I get the fascination with the potential of *that* kind of a backfield, but I think it's a fascination with his name. If Peterson were a cowboy last year and was doing this hold out and had the same issues here that he has in Minny, how many that want him here would just as soon see him go? if "go" - for what reasons?

I'm sure the list will be different than why people want him here. again, I just think people get so tunnel visioned they see no other possibility.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

and in almost every instance I can think of that "act now" has made us to stupid things in order to have said we "acted now". if Peterson was the key to winning a superbowl I'd have to think he would have one by now.

to a point I get the fascination with the potential of *that* kind of a backfield, but I think it's a fascination with his name. If Peterson were a cowboy last year and was doing this hold out and had the same issues here that he has in Minny, how many that want him here would just as soon see him go? if "go" - for what reasons?

I'm sure the list will be different than why people want him here. again, I just think people get so tunnel visioned they see no other possibility.

For the next two years, there isn't anybody available that is better then AP. I do have tunnel vision on this subject. I believe if we get AP, then our chances for winning a SB skyrocket.

We have been without a SB for 20 years now. We will need to pay him for sure, but there are ways to get this done, without being on the hook in year 3. Will Romo still be around then? 4 years from now?

He is just too good. Our offense would be unstoppable. Romo, AP, Dez, twill and beasley, behind that young Oline....and ohh yeah, Witten roaming around out there.

We have to break this culture of losing. I know, the new way of doing business. And I do agree with all that. Let Carter go, Let Murray go, do not get wrapped up into contracts that cost you years of dead money down the line. But don't pass up on AP for a 2, 3 year deal.

AP is in great shape....he will pass the physical. Yes, he did get injured a few years ago, but who doesn't in the NFL? He came back from that injury just fine. I am thinking he wants out of Minn, because he wants to make a Super Bowl run.....

Yeah, there are other options. We have..................................Joe Randle. a PS guy. DMF, And the draft....that might work out okay too..... We guarantee(as close as you can get in the NFL) it works out by signing AP.

I will give it a rest. I am sort of obsessed with it.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

For the next two years, there isn't anybody available that is better then AP. I do have tunnel vision on this subject. I believe if we get AP, then our chances for winning a SB skyrocket.

We have been without a SB for 20 years now. We will need to pay him for sure, but there are ways to get this done, without being on the hook in year 3. Will Romo still be around then? 4 years from now?

He is just too good. Our offense would be unstoppable. Romo, AP, Dez, twill and beasley, behind that young Oline....and ohh yeah, Witten roaming around out there.

We have to break this culture of losing. I know, the new way of doing business. And I do agree with all that. Let Carter go, Let Murray go, do not get wrapped up into contracts that cost you years of dead money down the line. But don't pass up on AP for a 2, 3 year deal.

AP is in great shape....he will pass the physical. Yes, he did get injured a few years ago, but who doesn't in the NFL? He came back from that injury just fine. I am thinking he wants out of Minn, because he wants to make a Super Bowl run.....

Yeah, there are other options. We have..................................Joe Randle. a PS guy. DMF, And the draft....that might work out okay too..... We guarantee(as close as you can get in the NFL) it works out by signing AP.

I will give it a rest. I am sort of obsessed with it.

He played the first game of the year last year. Been sitting since.

He was on pace for 1,200 yards though.... Only averaged 3.6 yards though ...

 

[DAL1180]

I have a feeling we get Peterson and Hardy. If not, you never read this.

This made me laugh out loud.

 

[DAL1180]

What we need AP to do is refuse to negotiate his contract with anyone and thereby force Minny to release him and then he would be free to negotiate with any team ( perhaps waiver order comes into play) and no team would have to give up a draft pick. Then the Cowboys could kick tires on AP and see if he really wants to play for the Cowboys by giving them a team friendly, incentive laden contract.

I'd like to see how that would turn out

No waiver wire for veterans(over 4-5 years)

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Yes, a 2nd and a 3rd round pick for a running back who'd essentially be as costly as Murray saw himself and on top of that valuable picks for which to rebuild our defense.
That sounds like a deal Jerra would half made post the Jimma years.

 

[Hoofbite]

Again, I don't think the total amount of money on Murray was the issue, only the guaranteed money. Dallas was willing (from what I read) to offer $12 million in guaranteed money, which is essentially what it would pay Peterson for this year (although, granted, Murray wouldn't have cost that much against the cap). Dallas rightly balked at the guaranteed money for Murray because of the dead money it would potentially create (no way do you want to be on the books for $13 million in 2016 if he falls off the ledge due to wear and tear or injuries, or $18 million this year if he blows out before the season).

Contracts can be reworked to fit Peterson under the cap this year so I don't think it would be a problem getting him to "fit," then if Dallas wants to next year, it could release him and clear him off the cap without any repercussions, or renegotiate with him according to his play. To me, that would be the biggest issue with doing it, that Peterson's cost goes up from here, so it's either pay another $14 million-plus for him in 2016, cut him or redo the contract.

If there's any concern whatsoever that a guy falls off in year 1 of a 5 year contract, you probably shouldn't be offering anything to him.

 

[Bullet22]

Peterson is not coming to Dallas,,,Mcfadden is the starter..

 

[AZ_Cowboys_Fan]

Peterson is not coming to Dallas,,,Mcfadden is the starter..

LOL.... McFadden is not the starter. All you need to do is look at the guaranteed money he got.... 200K. He could be cut before the season even starts. If anything McFdden will replace RANDLE, not Murray. We're going with a committee this year led by whoever we select in the draft.

 

[gimmesix]

If there's any concern whatsoever that a guy falls off in year 1 of a 5 year contract, you probably shouldn't be offering anything to him.

Running backs can fall of the cliff quickly, plus injuries make mortals of them all. I think teams definitely consider the general longevity of a position when they are offering contracts and then take risks accordingly. That's one reason the RB market wasn't expected to draw the contracts that it did, but all it takes is one team overpaying to set the market.

Teams go into it hoping that the player can make it through the first two or three years (when the dead money hit would be highest), knowing that after that, cutting them will actually save cap money. For instance, the Eagles save $4 million if they cut Murray his third year. They save $7 million if they cut him the next year and $8 million if they cut him his fifth year. So the reality is that he's been given a two- to three-year contract, with the third year acceptable if he's still playing at a high level.

If injuries or wear and tear take him immediately downhill, they would eat the $13 million in 2016, which would be $5 million more than his expected cap hit for that season. I doubt there's anyway he doesn't at least play some this season (which keeps the Eagles from eating $13 million more than his $5 million cap hit), though I would expect an injury at some point during the year because that's been his history.