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[LittleBoyBlue]

I 100% agree with you.

We get those two pieces and not only are we as good as last year's 12-4 team, we're better.

At this point in time, we're markedly worse than the team that finished last season.

Are you referring to the supposed to be 6-10.... 7-9.... 8-8.... Team of last year? Lol

I was at 8-8 or worse.

 

[Stash]

Yes, right now it is looking real bleak. The only positive I can think of is Lee is coming back but will he even training camp? We can't trust him.. or rather his body at all.
Last year our defense wasn't quite good enough to get us all the way to the championship game, so it HAS to improve considering GB and Seattle are just as good if not better than last year.

So we have to ask ourselves, are we trying to get to a super bowl now or are we prepping to get there in the next 5 years? If it is the next 5 years, then carry on doing what you're doing and save as much money as possible. If we are looking to get there now... then it is time to spend and get a couple of players that can take us over the top.
AP and Hardy are those players. After a season like last year, I can't fathom them not trying to go out and get a few players to put us over the top. Strange man.

Absolutely it is. As we've both said, Romo has 2 years left, 3 tops. If you don't kick the door in now, that rookie DE you're mistakenly counting on for production this year, should finally be hitting his stride just in time for Romo's retirement party.

Pick up both Hardy and Peterson with deals that you can get out of in 2-3 years and draft their hopeful replacements this year.

 

[Stash]

Are you referring to the supposed to be 6-10.... 7-9.... 8-8.... Team of last year? Lol

I was at 8-8 or worse.

I was at 6-10 and I have no problem admitting it. But we all know that what we currently have is worse than that group, not better.

And we all know what the biggest weakness was, and that weakness has gotten worse to this point, not better.

And if this team doesn't get Greg Hardy to fix it, I see no reason to believe that the results won't be even worse than they were last year. All the other viable options have already been scooped up.

 

[gimmesix]

I am with you, because of the money involved. But as far as the 2nd round pick being a potential building block...potential is indeed the key word. These are Dallas' last 10 picks they've made in Round 2:

Demarcus Lawrence
Gavin Escobar
Bruce Carter
Sean Lee
Martellus Bennett
Antony Fasano
Kevin Burnett
Julius Jones
Jacob Rogers
Al Johnson.

I'd have no prob giving the 2nd round pick. I wanna slap the Vikings for handing out that contract.

The problem with the draft is always going to be that players don't turn out the way you valued them, but that doesn't mean you ignore the fact that getting a player in the top 60 gives you a better shot at success than getting a player rated 160. There has to be some trust in the process that you will come away with a building block, thus saving money to be used to supplement the team through free agency.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I was at 6-10 and I have no problem admitting it. But we all know that what we currently have is worse than that group, not better.

And we all know what the biggest weakness was, and that weakness has gotten worse to this point, not better.

And if this team doesn't get Greg Hardy to fix it, I see no reason to believe that the results won't be even worse than they were last year. All the other viable options have already been scooped up.

I hear you and agree for the most part.... But after last year .. Who really knows... Gotta play the game.

We had no real playmaker but yet they made plays. "We-Fense", seems we are taking a pseudo patriots approach to. "Things"

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-trade-for-adrian-peterson-at-current-salary/

So if the 2nd round rumor from AZ was BS by Rosenhaus, most likely scenario is APs eventual release. If that's the case, we'd be in the drivers seat if AP would sign a cap friendly deal. With recent news that Hardy may be facing a 6 game ban, this may be the only "splash move" remaining.

 

[robjay04]

I hear you. I think in most cases you pass on these kind of trades.

But in this particular situation. This case. I think we almost have to try and get him. If it takes a 2. It takes a 2.

We get AP, and we will barrel over the NFCE and most likely the NFC....,, Thats how much I think of this deal. I don't have to guess if AP is good enough. He is. He is order of magnitudes better then Murray or any Rookie coming out of the Draft. Yes he is 30 but we could platoon him with DMF.....keep them both fresh. Hell, DMF will be 28......???

Lets get that SB. Lets see Romo in a SB.... Maybe 2....beating NE, and ,,,ummm Pittsburgh or Baltimore......

Another thing about AP is the man probably has the most pride in the league. He almost broke the record when everyone was doubting that he would ever be the same. I would be willing to make a large wager, he will be playing with a huge chip on his shoulder next season for how he was treated.

 

[Stash]

I hear you and agree for the most part.... But after last year .. Who really knows... Gotta play the game.

We had no real playmaker but yet they made plays. "We-Fense", seems we are taking a pseudo patriots approach to. "Things"

No doubt that they overachieved last season, but at this point, it looks like they're being asked to overachieve even more, and that's not a recipe I'm comfortable with.

I think we 'got away with' being talent deficient last year, but I think it's arrogant and foolish to expect to get away with it again.

 

[robjay04]

So if the 2nd round rumor from AZ was BS by Rosenhaus, most likely scenario is APs eventual release. If that's the case, we'd be in the drivers seat if AP would sign a cap friendly deal. With recent news that Hardy may be facing a 6 game ban, this may be the only "splash move" remaining.

If he is a free agent, he is a Cowboy, I have no doubt about that.

 

[Craig]

No more foolish than crippling the cap by overspending on free agents.

 

[phildadon86]

If he is a free agent, he is a Cowboy, I have no doubt about that.

Yup

 

[robjay04]

No more foolish than crippling the cap by overspending on free agents.

AP is not going to get some 7 year cap cripping contract. He will get paid, possibly even 10M+ a season but I don't think a team will sign him for more than 3 seasons. It is the long 5-7 year contracts loaded with guarantees that you will have to pay out even if you cut the player after 3 seasons. We can afford a 3 year deal, besides Dez---the only player on our team that will be a "must sign" after their rookie deal will be Frederick/Martin and we still have 2-3 years to worry about them.

 

[Stash]

So if the 2nd round rumor from AZ was BS by Rosenhaus, most likely scenario is APs eventual release. If that's the case, we'd be in the drivers seat if AP would sign a cap friendly deal. With recent news that Hardy may be facing a 6 game ban, this may be the only "splash move" remaining.

I haven't see anything about a possible 6 game suspension for Hardy, do you have a link?

As for Peterson, if he wants out of Minnesota, I believe he's got to be willing to push it. He has to be willing to be 'the bad guy' in this breakup, otherwise I expect the Vikings to simply squat on his rights in an effort to force him to play for them or nobody.

I believe that we're using a similar tactic (to a lesser extent) in pay cut negotiations with Brandon Carr. We'll do nothing until the market has dried up and teams have used their money and then threaten a release if the player doesn't agree to a pay cut. We used a similar tactic a few years ago with Doug Free.

If Peterson wants to accelerate his exit, he needs to publicly express that he wants out, in no uncertain or ambiguous terms.

 

[Craig]

AP is not going to get some 7 year cap cripping contract. He will get paid, possibly even 10M+ a season but I don't think a team will sign him for more than 3 seasons. It is the long 5-7 year contracts loaded with guarantees that you will have to pay out even if you cut the player after 3 seasons. We can afford a 3 year deal, besides Dez---the only player on our team that will be a "must sign" after their rookie deal will be Frederick/Martin and we still have 2-3 years to worry about them.

Does AP play defense now? Im not sure what this has to do with what I was responding to. And yes, that would be crippling anyway.

 

[burmafrd]

I haven't see anything about a possible 6 game suspension for Hardy, do you have a link?

As for Peterson, if he wants out of Minnesota, I believe he's got to be willing to push it. He has to be willing to be 'the bad guy' in this breakup, otherwise I expect the Vikings to simply squat on his rights in an effort to force him to play for them or nobody.

I believe that we're using a similar tactic (to a lesser extent) in pay cut negotiations with Brandon Carr. We'll do nothing until the market has dried up and teams have used their money and then threaten a release if the player doesn't agree to a pay cut. We used a similar tactic a few years ago with Doug Free.

If Peterson wants to accelerate his exit, he needs to publicly express that he wants out, in no uncertain or ambiguous terms.

there can be no 6 game suspension on Hardy since his incident happened before the new policy and Doty has already ruled that you cannot use it retroactively.

 

[gimmesix]

I agree, I wouldn't break the bank either but I read somewhere that if he were dealt he would have to renegotiate his contract, so I would give a 2nd for him if we could negotiate a reasonable contract, reasonable for AP is higher than what Murray wanted but I'd do it.

Actually, after giving it some thought, I don't know if Peterson's contract is really a problem. The reason? No guaranteed money.

If I read his contract right, all the money remaining on his contract is base salary. Now, it's very high base salary: $12,750,000 this year, $14,750,000 next year and $16,750,000 in 2017.

For the moment, let's look at that first figure. LeSean McCoy's contract with Buffalo would leave the Bills taking an $18,250,000 hit if they had to cut him this year. Next year, it would cost the Bills $13,000,000 to cut him. Now, his cap hit isn't nearly as high as Peterson's would be (if the contract stayed as is), but the risk is higher because of the dead money.

With DeMarco Murray, the Cowboys' concern wasn't his overall contract for $42 million, but his guaranteed $21 million for the same reason. Murray's dead cap for this year is $18,000,000 and his dead cap for next year is $13,000,000. If either of those backs hit a wall, the team is going to take a pretty big hit.

Dallas only takes a big hit with Peterson if he actually plays. Under his current contract, if the team cut him before camp for some reason, there would be no cap hit. If it paid him his $12.75 million for this year and he clearly was not the same runner he had been, then the team can cut him next year with no cap hit.

Now, we'd have to do some restructuring of other contracts to make that possible, but it's certainly not impossible. However, the Cowboys could also set themselves up for a more minimal hit this year by converting some of his base into bonus without changing the overall numbers. That would create some dead money, but if Peterson is everything we hope he could be, we could renegotiate the deal next year.

Neither is ideal, of course, because we prefer to get him for much less money, but I don't think his contract necessarily is a deciding factor in this ... I think it's compensation. If we're going to essentially "rent" Peterson for a year, then the cost to rent him (a second-round pick) is too high.

 

[Stash]

there can be no 6 game suspension on Hardy since his incident happened before the new policy and Doty has already ruled that you cannot use it retroactively.

That was my thinking as well.

As per the prior policy, I'm under the impression that the maximum penalty that he can face is 2 games.

 

[NeonNinja]

I have a feeling we get Peterson and Hardy. If not, you never read this.

 

[phildadon86]

Does AP play defense now? Im not sure what this has to do with what I was responding to. And yes, that would be crippling anyway.

No he doesnt, but he can sure keep the defense off the field. Also can actually put points on the board when he hits the second level too

 

[burmafrd]

That was my thinking as well.

As per the prior policy, I'm under the impression that the maximum penalty that he can face is 2 games.

and even that could be appealed since he was forced to sit out last year and his case has been dismissed. The way the NFL has been getting beaten like a rented rug in court I think Goodell just might say enough is enough on this case.