latest stupidity for Vick

[GimmeTheBall!]

gee, only took what, 4-6 weeks for him to come up with this story:

Falcons | Vick says water bottle was jewelry box
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:24:32 -0700

The Associated Press reports Atlanta Falcons QB Michael Vick said the water bottle that was seized at an airport in January was a jewelry box.

He must have bought it from unreputable jeweler who left residue inside it.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Are you really disputing that marijuana smoke contains carcinogens? This fact is universally accepted by doctors and scientists.

I read that in a medical journal.

 

[stealth]

Are you really disputing that marijuana smoke contains carcinogens? This fact is universally accepted by doctors and scientists.

pretty much everything you consume has some form or another of carcinogens. However there are aspects of the marijuana smoke that doctors and the like do not understand. As a matter of fact smokers who also smoke pot are less likely to get cancer than those that do not. That alone should fly in the face of marijuana smoke causing cancer. The laws regarding marijuana hold back the research and the fact is most doctors don't know jack all about it and postulate to its effects, simply because the legality of the plant dictate research can't be conducted as it probably should be.

 

[theogt]

pretty much everything you consume has some form or another of carcinogens. However there are aspects of the marijuana smoke that doctors and the like do not understand. As a matter of fact smokers who also smoke pot are less likely to get cancer than those that do not. That alone should fly in the face of marijuana smoke causing cancer. The laws regarding marijuana hold back the research and the fact is most doctors don't know jack all about it and postulate to its effects, simply because the legality of the plant dictate research can't be conducted as it probably should be.

I think it'd be pretty cool if all these things were true, but they're simply not. Marijuana smoke contains carcinogens and inhaling the smoke contributes to higher risk of lung cancer. Whether that increased risk is significant enough to warrant a legal ban or merely a health choice of simply not smoking is up for debate.

The studies that were cited to are a joke. You don't determine medical facts by surveying people with and without cancer to see if they have ever smoked marijuana. That's just not how medical research is done.

 

[stealth]

I think it'd be pretty cool if all these things were true, but they're simply not. Marijuana smoke contains carcinogens and inhaling the smoke contributes to higher risk of lung cancer. Whether that increased risk is significant enough to warrant a legal ban or merely a health choice of simply not smoking is up for debate.

The studies that were cited to are a joke. You don't determine medical facts by surveying people with and without cancer to see if they have ever smoked marijuana. That's just not how medical research is done.

I didn't even click the link he listed, I am listing info from completely different real sources. There is no risk of cancer with marijuana smoke. That is a fact, from real studies not surveys. There truly is zero cancer risk, any smoking tends to diminish lung function but cancer isn't a risk. One of these days I will find the research again, I will pm the link to you when I do.

 

[joseephuss]

the people at the airport kept the bottle and whatever was in it, I suspect it didn't smell like pot or anything else. It's a peice of schwagg. Bet it shows up on ebay.

The official report said it smelled like marijuana. So I guess it is a conspiracy. I think it is possible, but it is also possible that Vick used it for his pot. I lean toward the latter.

 

[joseephuss]

I don't think he was claiming that he had any missing jewelry. I think he's just claiming that the "secret compartment" was for storing jewelry (as opposed to marijuana).

"I had earrings in it, and I had jewelry in it," Vick said of the 20-ounce Aquafina bottle, which was red-flagged at the security checkpoint because liquid containers of that size can't be carried through. "They took the bottle. I don't know what they did with the bottle. I guess they were trying to, I don't want to say frame me, but at the same time look at what I had to go through."

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/03/22/0323vick.html

 

[joseephuss]

I don't think marijuana should be illegal. I put it on a level just under alcohol, which is much worse for people yet is legal. That being said, it is still illegal. A bad law is a law none the less. It needs to be changed, but that may or may not happen.

I don't smoke it myself. I have tried it. Didn't like it.

I don't believe it when it is claimed that pot has never killed anyone. Any drug has the potential to kill someone. Heck, there are people dying from drinking too much water. It may be a very, very low percentage of people susceptible to dying from an overdose of pot, but it is a possiblity.

That part doesn't matter as much anyway because if you want to kill yourself intentionally or accidentally from too much of any drug, that is your business. It is endangering other lives that should be monitored. Operating a vehicle or the like while high is just as dangerous as driving drunk. There should be no penalties for getting stinking drunk or high in your own house( as long as you aren't beating your spouse or kids). There should be stiffer penalites if you are out there endangering others. The stiffest penalties should be there when you actually do hurt or kill someone due to your negligence.

 

[TobiasEagle77]

I could care less. There's more than enough drama in our own backyard to worry about someone else's. I'll leave you queen's to it, go crazy, girls.

oh no you di-int!

 

[cowgirl4life]

He is stupid.Gorgeous but stupid

 

[Aikbach]

With each passing day Vick makes the 2001 Chargers management look like geniuses for trading the first pick and moving down to acquire Tomlinson and then Brees.

That trade may go into the annals right behind the Walker Trade or the Dorsett Coup and Ditka/ Williams Draft Debacle.

In fact in my opinion these are the top trades in NFL history.

1.) The 1989 Herschel Walker Trade.

2.) The 2001 Vick Trade.

3.) The 1977 Seattle/ Cowboy trade that gave Dallas Tony Dorsett in exchange for 3 second round picks and the Cowboys late first rounder.

4.) The 1999 Ricky Williams Draft.

5.) The 1991 Favre Trade.

Honorable mentions: the 1992 Haley Trade, the 1993 Montana Trade, the 2003 Terry Glenn Trade.

 

[cowgirl4life]

With each passing day Vick makes the 2001 Chargers management look like geniuses for trading the first pick and moving down to acquire Tomlinson and then Brees.

That trade may go into the annals right behind the Walker Trade or the Dorsett Coup and Ditka/ Williams Draft Debacle.

In fact in my opinion these are the top trades in NFL history.

1.) The 1989 Herschel Walker Trade.

2.) The 2001 Vick Trade.

3.) The 1977 Seattle/ Cowboy trade that gave Dallas Tony Dorsett in exchange for 3 second round picks and the Cowboys late first rounder.

4.) The 1999 Ricky Williams Draft.

5.) The 1991 Favre Trade.

Honorable mentions: the 1992 Haley Trade, the 1993 Montana Trade, the 2003 Terry Glenn Trade.

I can't agree with you.People act like he's the worst qb in history.Get off it.He's not bad.He's taken a bad team & made them average by himself.It takes time.I like him I think he'a a good qb.He could come on to the Cowboys are far as I'm concerned

 

[Aikbach]

I can't agree with you.People act like he's the worst qb in history.Get off it.He's not bad.He's taken a bad team & made them average by himself.It takes time.I like him I think he'a a good qb.He could come on to the Cowboys are far as I'm concerned

Not the worst in history, the most HYPED in history and to be taken number one and only produce a glittery highlight reel and a couple of mysterious rashes during your time as a pro is reason to shrug at the mention of him.

Drew Brees has done more with less talent and suppoorting cast than has Ron Mexico Vick.

I don't dislike him, I'm tired of him however, he just ain't that special, Randal Cunningham was better.

 

[cowgirl4life]

Not the worst in history, the most HYPED in history and to be taken number one and only produce a glittery highlight reel and a couple of mysterious rashes during your time as a pro is reason to shrug at the mention of him.

Drew Brees has done more with less talent and suppoorting cast than has Ron Mexico Vick.

I don't dislike him, I'm tired of him however, he just ain't that special, Randal Cunningham was better.

What has Drew Brees done thet Vick hasn't?

 

[Aikbach]

What has Drew Brees done thet Vick hasn't?

Taken a previously 3-13 team to the NFC Championship game with inferior talent, posted 12-4 seasons and pro bowl appearances in a superior conference, the AFC, he hasn't let his team down with costly mistakes and attitude or legal problems and he was a second round pick and not number one overall.

 

[cowgirl4life]

Taken a previously 3-13 team to the NFC Championship game with inferior talent, posted 12-4 seasons and pro bowl appearances in a superior conference, the AFC, he hasn't let his team down with costly mistakes and attitude or legal problems and he was a second round pick and not number one overall.

3-13 in the season after a major hurricane uprooted their lives,which would happen to most teams,Vick has pro bowl appeareances and has taken his team to a nfc championship while playing in a tough division.You cannot deny the Chargers have more talent & better coaching than Atlanta.

 

[Aikbach]

3-13 in the season after a major hurricane uprooted their lives,which would happen to most teams,Vick has pro bowl appeareances and has taken his team to a nfc championship while playing in a tough division.You cannot deny the Chargers have more talent & better coaching than Atlanta.

Not buying it, Vick has not lived up to expectations, Atlanta has many woes that are amplified by average to sometimes poor quarterbacking.

Brees surpassed expectations, hurricanes equal NFL victories? Interesting theory, New Orleans always had some talent and the infusion of Brees and Sean Payton gave it at least some temporal new life.

Vick has pro bowl appearances and so does Sean Taylor and Dante Hall and Tony Romo and Jeff Blake.

Pro Bowls mean next to nothing, a sheer flavor of the month popularity contest.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Im kinda confused by peoples reactions to this. I was under the impression that the authorities didnt charge him becuase it wasnt drugs. I also doubt that cops at the airport would just let him slde. Crimes at the airport are a very serious matter for obvious reasons.

 

[cowgirl4life]

Not buying it, Vick has not lived up to expectations, Atlanta has many woes that are amplified by average to sometimes poor quarterbacking.

Brees surpassed expectations, hurricanes equal NFL victories? Interesting theory, New Orleans always had some talent and the infusion of Brees and Sean Payton gave it at least some temporal new life.

Vick has pro bowl appearances and so does Sean Taylor and Dante Hall and Tony Romo and Jeff Blake.

Pro Bowls mean next to nothing, a sheer flavor of the month popularity contest.

Exactly they had too high of expectations.For what they were a bad team. In the NFl especially when you are really bad like the Falcons were,the lions,cardinals,browns,it's hard to just turn it around especially with his high contract that means you have less to spend on other players.that settles that.#2 i thought you were the one who brought up pro bowls .Look it doesn't matter what u say Vick is one of the best in the game and I'd give my right arm for him to become a Cowboy.

 

[Aikbach]

Exactly they had too high of expectations.For what they were a bad team. In the NFl especially when you are really bad like the Falcons were,the lions,cardinals,browns,it's hard to just turn it around especially with his high contract that means you have less to spend on other players.that settles that.#2 i thought you were the one who brought up pro bowls .Look it doesn't matter what u say Vick is one of the best in the game and I'd give my right arm for him to become a Cowboy.

They remain a mediocre team at best in large part because of him. He's been in the league since 2001 and as an athlete he's remarkable but as a quarterback he is in the third or bottom of the second tier of starters in this league.

Personally I take the undrafted kid named Romo over him.
I take Hasselbeck over him, Brees, Rivers, Bulger.

I'll give him an edge over Garcia, Delhomme, Alex Smith, anyone in Oakland or Washington and Eli Manning.