Leche Seastrunk impressing

[DFWJC]

He MUST be a strong special teams player to have a chance

Do that and we begin the conversation

 

[jobberone]

Add one more from somebody who was there Saturday. His elusiveness had us buzzing.

Ok, cat's out of the bag. You are now under notice to give up more info.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Not sure why people think that Dunbar and 'Lache' Seastrunck can't be a competitive RB. One is 5-9 and 200 and the other is 5-8 and 195+. Emmitt played at 208. Granted he was built differently with huge legs but he wasn't that fast either. The others have more of a sprinter/RB lower body that translates more into speed. But they aren't that different in build. Both of them are fast and hit the hole well. They might no be able to carry the ball 15+ times a game (although they may) but they offer some versatility and depth IMO. Dorsett was 5-10 (with light gravity) and weighed 195 near the end. He played substantially less on entry into the league.

If you can break arm tackles in this league, have good balance and vision, catch the ball, and block then generally there is a place to play. It's the rest of the things that make a very good or better RB.

Agreed.

Justin Forsett is 5'8", 195lbs and I haven't heard anyone out of the Ravens camp say that he's too small to carry the ball 15 times a game.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

Whether it's Seastrunk or Dunbar, each has superb speed, quickness, & home run abilities that can create mismatch nightmares out in space-especially on turf. I know that defensive players are bigger now, but both are bigger than TD ever played at, & not much smaller than Emmitt. Just have to see if either one has the smarts & guts to pass pro. If so, they can make a difference if used correctly.

 

[percyhoward]

Ok, cat's out of the bag. You are now under notice to give up more info.

I wish I had some insight, but I took my three boys (8, 9, and 14), so I was watching most of it through their eyes, if that makes any sense. I can tell you Haley had a blast, and was talking to everybody. The whole TC fan experience has changed a lot since the last time I went several years ago. I'll post more on it when I get some time to reflect.

 

[remdak]

Every time I see Seastrunk mentioned, I think of this guy. You old-timers will remember him. He was from "The University of Mars"

 

[jobberone]

I wish I had some insight, but I took my three boys (8, 9, and 14), so I was watching most of it through their eyes, if that makes any sense. I can tell you Haley had a blast, and was talking to everybody. The whole TC fan experience has changed a lot since the last time I went several years ago. I'll post more on it when I get some time to reflect.

Thanks, I'd appreciate it much and I suspect most here will as well. Family first though.

 

[erod]

Where did you hear that? I heard he was the best pass protector as a RB on the team. Is it standard these days to find ways to criticize Murray even to the point of making it up?

PFF ranked him 27th in the NFL among backs, I believe.

 

[waving monkey]

I wish I had some insight, but I took my three boys (8, 9, and 14), so I was watching most of it through their eyes, if that makes any sense. I can tell you Haley had a blast, and was talking to everybody. The whole TC fan experience has changed a lot since the last time I went several years ago. I'll post more on it when I get some time to reflect.

please do appreciated

 

[Maxmadden]

As a Baylor fan I'd love for Seastrunk to earn a spot on the roster. I'm not confident though. It's going to come down to blocking and special teams play. It's not as much that he couldn't block or catch at Baylor as much as it isn't something Baylor running backs are asked to do.

His best trait is his ability to get to full speed almost instantly out of a cut. His top speed is only good compared to his elite acceleration.

I don't know what Dunbar is making off hand but that may be Seastrunk ' best shot at making the roster. He needs to provide what Dunbar dues at a cheaper price.

I think this is the most important trait for a RB. Emmitt was never fast, but if you didn't get him in the first ten yards he already had you beat.

 

[Alexander]

Pretty much any RB will impress right now.

I do not think they worry about stopping the run enough to bother. They are gearing for the pass rush.

It appears they are doing a lot of tinkering with the line, moving Hardy around inside etc.

I do not think this is going to be a traditional 4-3 DL with a right end rushing, the three technique crashing and the two left side players holding ground.

It seems more aggressive and they are trying to find players that fit that, at least for right now.

I don't think they are concerned about stopping the run in camp, just finding the best players to prepare for what is ahead.

They are trying to put the foundation in for what they think this defense will be like with Hardy moving around, IMO.

 

[tyke1doe]

Not sure why people think that Dunbar and 'Lache' Seastrunck can't be a competitive RB. One is 5-9 and 200 and the other is 5-8 and 195+. Emmitt played at 208. Granted he was built differently with huge legs but he wasn't that fast either. The others have more of a sprinter/RB lower body that translates more into speed. But they aren't that different in build. Both of them are fast and hit the hole well. They might no be able to carry the ball 15+ times a game (although they may) but they offer some versatility and depth IMO. Dorsett was 5-10 (with light gravity) and weighed 195 near the end. He played substantially less on entry into the league.

If you can break arm tackles in this league, have good balance and vision, catch the ball, and block then generally there is a place to play. It's the rest of the things that make a very good or better RB.

Dorsett was 177 when he entered the league.

 

[jobberone]

Dorsett was 177 when he entered the league.

Can't tell you how many times people have argued against that. I got it from a source very close to the player and he never got over 185 until later in his career.

 

[Garrettop]

The league was smaller across the board then.

 

[CyberB0b]

Not sure why people think that Dunbar and 'Lache' Seastrunck can't be a competitive RB. One is 5-9 and 200 and the other is 5-8 and 195+. Emmitt played at 208. Granted he was built differently with huge legs but he wasn't that fast either. The others have more of a sprinter/RB lower body that translates more into speed. But they aren't that different in build. Both of them are fast and hit the hole well. They might no be able to carry the ball 15+ times a game (although they may) but they offer some versatility and depth IMO. Dorsett was 5-10 (with light gravity) and weighed 195 near the end. He played substantially less on entry into the league.

If you can break arm tackles in this league, have good balance and vision, catch the ball, and block then generally there is a place to play. It's the rest of the things that make a very good or better RB.

I think it's everything else that is the issue. Blocking, vision, ball security, that sort of stuff. Not saying it's a problem with those two guys, but there's a lot more to the running back position than running the ball.

 

[jobberone]

jobberone said: ↑
Not sure why people think that Dunbar and 'Lache' Seastrunck can't be a competitive RB. One is 5-9 and 200 and the other is 5-8 and 195+. Emmitt played at 208. Granted he was built differently with huge legs but he wasn't that fast either. The others have more of a sprinter/RB lower body that translates more into speed. But they aren't that different in build. Both of them are fast and hit the hole well. They might no be able to carry the ball 15+ times a game (although they may) but they offer some versatility and depth IMO. Dorsett was 5-10 (with light gravity) and weighed 195 near the end. He played substantially less on entry into the league.

If you can break arm tackles in this league, have good balance and vision, catch the ball, and block then generally there is a place to play. It's the rest of the things that make a very good or better RB.

I think it's everything else that is the issue. Blocking, vision, ball security, that sort of stuff. Not saying it's a problem with those two guys, but there's a lot more to the running back position than running the ball.

I agree. In addition to the bolded are quicks, missem', avoiding tackles and breaking them (loved Emmitt's spin move), setting blockers and tacklers up, second gear, stiff arm. The best measure is results and your eye assessment. I know a good or better back when I see them. Right now I can't say a lot re the above about the current stable of RBs we have.

 

[maxdallasfan]

This offense is built perfectly for a speed back. As we all know, Murray was barely touched until he got to the second level. It was there where he got caught from behind. he wasn't blasting through the line.

These quick guys in space will be deadly. I'm all for carrying 4 RB's. Randle, McFadden, Dunbar, ?

Imagine a fresh speedster in the 4th Quarter after our OL has mauled the DL the entire game............

 

[Fletch]

So is Dunbar.

I just don't think there game translates to actual football very well.

If it was flag football they would be my first 2 selections..

Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles, Maurice Jones-Drew all say hi.

 

[CATCH17]

Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles, Maurice Jones-Drew all say hi.

I meant the players themselves.. Not their physical attributes.

RB's come in all shapes and sizes as we all know.

 

[Fletch]

I meant the players themselves.. Not their physical attributes.

RB's come in all shapes and sizes as we all know.

I get it. For me it's too early. I need till at least game 3 of the preseason. By then we should have a good idea between final 53 , practice squad, and camp fodder.