Lee's response to Dez

[OmerV]

No, I'm supporting that idea that he won't accept personal responsibility in his current situation because of the hypocrisy he sees when it comes to management not holding those above him accountable. I didn't support the idea that he doesn't accept any personal responsibility at all. This was already implied in the first response I made in this thread.

Also, I'm not using the the notion that someone who refuses to change won't change as an excuse. I just stated it as a fact and a point of emphasis in line with you stating it is useless to tell someone who won't accept personal responsibility to accept it.

This makes no sense because Lee didn’t indicate he butted heads with Dez over perusal accountabilty with in Dez’s current situation, he said he butted heads with him when he was with the Cowboys.

In any case, how do you know talking to someone about personal accountability is useless unless you actually do it? And even if someone refuses, does that somehow mean it shouldn’t be expected? If Dez actually does have that attitude then I wouldn’t blame his teammates if they actually had lobbied to get him off the team.

 

[kazzd58]

Yeah I have actually watched every game for the last 10+ plus years. The FACTS are Sean Lee leads the team in tackles every year and is one of the best lb in the NFL. Dez is washed up and has never been a better player than Lee. Dez has been just as injury pron as Lee the last 3 seasons.

Last 3 years DOES NOT EQUATE to Seans WHOLE CAREER.. I didnt stutter... I saw this team make the playoffs without sean Lee all season in 2014..

It didnt happen when when dez was out most of the season like the 1st broke foot year.. had no business coming back that early it is what it is.

But Like is sd b4 Sean better stay healthy all 16 games...

 

[tyke1doe]

The original thing brought up by me was that maybe it is hard to have a face to face meeting with Dez. Or that having a face to face with someone is a pointless endeavor if they are going to blow up whenever they hear something they don't like. And if you as a person see that happening, then how likely are you going to talk to Dez the next time face to face, if the first time it just caused a ruckus? Sounds like that is what may have happened when Sean Lee said he and Dez butted heads in the past. And then watching that video, where they mentioned that dez "imploded" during a meeting when a coach brought something up about another team, and the meeting degenerated into being something fruitless, well you can see that when they guy hears something that he doesn't like there is no talking to him because of his emotional outburst. And Demarco, subconsciously, was shaking his head in a knowing yes, even though he didn't want to say anything negative about dez in that vid, and then goes on to say "I know how hard it can be on the team" when talking about how Dez acts.

Thank you for the explanation. I understand now.

 

[Buzzbait]

How isn't it a fragile locker room when they got rid of Dez? And he only had a problem after he got cut.

Why would it be fragile? Personally I suspect the locker room as well as the practice field will be better off than it was before.

 

[khiladi]

He did name people very quickly though. He talked about Jerry’s guys and even when not using names made it very clear who he was talking about. This was not the first time He pointed a finger at Lee.

Yes, this was a response, but not new comments. You are acting as if Dez has handled this silently and with grace up to this point. That’s not true. He started pointing fingers very soon after being released.

As for Lee confirming what Dez said, that BS because Lee did not confirm that he or anyone else had anything to do with Dez being cut - and that was what Dez claimed. Lee denied it and in fact scoffed at the notion. All Lee said was he butted heads with Dez because he wanted Dez to be more accountable, not that he conspired or lobbied to get Dez released.

So 'naming quickly' these last few days is naming somebody from the beginning?

And of course it's confirming what Dez. When Dez blames the Garrett guys he clearky did mean they actually did the 'cutting'. Lee denying m he had no power of curting somebody doesn't mean Lee didn't recommend that he be cut.

 

[khiladi]

Where was Dez last year when Dak needed his #1 WR, to, you know, produce like a #1 WR?

So the WR has more power than the QB? Where was Dak's accuracy with his 6 INTs returned for a TD? Where was Dak with the rest of the WRs whose production also dropped? Cole Beasley's drop off was way more than Dez's and that was Dak's go to Target year 1...

 

[khiladi]

That was painful to read. I would try proof reading.
Anyway,
Sorry, agree to disagree. Bryant has had many injuries specifically his legs. And, guess what? I don't really care because he's not a Cowboy.
So when he whines, I don't care because he's STILL a distraction. It's sad really.

You clearly do, because you are still posting about it. And there is nothing to disagree about.

Sean Lee is fragile compared to Dez and the amount of games playe beat it out. Sean Lee has missed a whole season and never completed a full season in his pro career.

 

[OmerV]

So 'naming quickly' these last few days is naming somebody from the beginning?

And of course it's confirming what Dez. When Dez blames the Garrett guys he clearky did mean they actually did the 'cutting'. Lee denying m he had no power of curting somebody doesn't mean Lee didn't recommend that he be cut.

Your effort at putting words in my mouth leaves a lot to be desired. The fact is he pointed fingers quickly after being released, blaming Garrett and the “Garrett guys” and the team captains.

 

[khiladi]

Your effort at putting words in my mouth leaves a lot to be desired. The fact is he pointed fingers quickly after being released, blaming Garrett and the “Garrett guys” and the team captains.

Comical.. whose putting words on whose mouth? I used the word 'names' from the very beginning.

 

[OmerV]

Comical.. whose putting words on whose mouth?

Whose mouth did I put words in? What part of what I said is false?

 

[G2]

You clearly do, because you are still posting about it. And there is nothing to disagree about.

Sean Lee is fragile compared to Dez and the amount of games playe beat it out. Sean Lee has missed a whole season and never completed a full season in his pro career.

You clearly do, because you are still posting about it. And there is nothing to disagree about.

Sean Lee is fragile compared to Dez and the amount of games playe beat it out. Sean Lee has missed a whole season and never completed a full season in his pro career.

Guess which one is mentally fragile.

 

[khiladi]

Whose mouth did I put words in?

Whose mouth did I put words in? You responded to my post where I used the word 'naming' first, your response using the word naming as something clearly not what it actually means.

FACT is Dez didn't name any player from the beginning and now you are trying to spin what naming means.. Dez RESPONDED to Stephen Jones after he brought up Dez's nans.

that's the reality

 

[khiladi]

Guess which one is mentally fragile.

That's cute, but that's not what you were talking about when you brought up
'Missing games'..

 

[G2]

That's cute, but that's not what you were talking about when you brought up
'Missing games'..

It's the truth, Dez couldn't keep his head in the game.
Even when Dez was on the field, he sometimes wasn't.

 

[khiladi]

It's the truth, Dez couldn't keep his head in the game.
Even when Dez was on the field, he sometimes wasn't.

Not relevant to the post. And it's hard to keep your head in the game when your QB is throwing a franchise record pick 6s and can't hit the broad side of a barn.

 

[OmerV]

Whose mouth did I put words in? You responded to my post where I used the word 'naming' first, your response using the word naming as something clearly not what it actually means. Meaning you were putting words in mouth..

FACT is Dez didn't name any player from the beginning and now you are trying to spin what naming means.. Dez RESPONDED to Stephen Jones after he brought up Dez's nans.

that's the reality

First, this is nonsensical because I didn’t make a claim about what you said, I referred to what Dez said. If you think I didn’t answer you fairly, so be it, but that is not the same as putting words in your mouth.

Second, explain how specifically naming Garrett and the team captains - whose names are known to everyone - doesn’t qualify as naming people or pointing fingers

 

[G2]

Not relevant to the post. And it's hard to keep your head in the game when your QB is throwing a franchise record pick 6s and can't hit the broad side of a barn.

Do you still have a Dez fathead?

 

[OmerV]

Not relevant to the post. And it's hard to keep your head in the game when your QB is throwing a franchise record pick 6s and can't hit the broad side of a barn.

Yeah, both Romo and Dak threw franchise record pick 6s every game .. sometimes 3-4 times. Of course Dez couldn’t be expected to stay focused in every game.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Why would it be fragile? Personally I suspect the locker room as well as the practice field will be better off than it was before.

I made a error. He said the locker room was fragile. I was asking him how.

 

[khiladi]

First, this is nonsensical because I didn’t make a claim about what you said, I referred to what Dez said. If you think I didn’t answer you fairly, so be it, but that is not the same as putting words in your mouth.

Second, explain how specifically naming Garrett and the team captains - whose names are known to everyone - doesn’t qualify as naming people or pointing fingers

So where did I put put words in your mouth? If your going to respond to me incorrectly and when I call you out for it, don't claim I put words in your mouth because your understanding of what I was saying was wrong.

As for your second question, because that's not yet definition of naming players as I stated explicitly in the post. That's what you call NOT naming players.

You know who did name a player despite claiming they moved on as I STATED when Dez came out with his tweets? Stephen Jones..