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dargonking999 said:
no i fully understand even outsdie of that, if our D isnt cabable of runnign the 3-4(whihc means we make to many mental mistakes) do you really think BP is gonna sacrafice a losing season, just for that get over yourslef, BP has siad it his damn self in a PC to all the media people and us fans, if the 3-4 doesnt work out he will fall back on the 4-3. now you dont understand so move one



and BTW if we lost those players we woudlnt have to scrap the seasons, it jsut means we wouldnt have a big rotation on the 4-3 line. Leanr to think
No son, he didn't say he would. He said he has before. Just as I stated earlier, if we lose those players, the season is already over. You don't lose youe top 3 picks and your #1 FA and win in this league.
 

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This years Dallas Cowboys team is a 3-4 base defensive team. Stop trying to figure out if BP will go back to the 4-3, it won't happen. You don't use a #11 pick on a 3-4 OLB and a #20 on the proto DE, just to revert back to the 4-3. Its simple to figure out. BP has always stated that he will get his best players on the field. His concession to Glover and Ellis is the 4 man front, not the 4-3. We are actually still in the 3-4 with Ware in the game and a 4 man front, because he can drop into coverage which is highly unlikely.

He has gone on and on for several weeks that Coleman is a much different player in the 3-4 and we all know what Spears was brought in here for. Stop trying to convince yourself that BP might go back to the 4-3. It ain't happenin captain. The 4 man front is our nickle defense and that all. We only implore 2 LBs with the 4 man front (Dat/Burnett). Ware then turns into a DE along with Ellis and Glover goes back to his natural DT. Fergy may or may not be on the field, but I would venture to say that Canty and Spears will replace Fergy on the inside on passing downs in many nickle situations. BP has easily fooled some of you and you should be ashamed.

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50cent said:
No son, he didn't say he would. He said he has before. Just as I stated earlier, if we lose those players, the season is already over. You don't lose youe top 3 picks and your #1 FA and win in this league.


actaully i think our number 1 FA is Anothny Henry, so i would coulnt it as a loss of a season, i dont care what the tree players are, it still is only 3 players, Fergy would hurt us, but you have a 5 time probowler behind, Ware would hurt yes, Burnett isnt even a starter yet. Next
 

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While I agree 3-4 will probably be the base, I don't agree with a large portion of your statement.

Ware was never a 3-4 linebacker until he came to Dallas. Spears was primarily a 4-3 end and was projected as a prototypical 3-4 end.

Also, if you read the recap of Parcell's press conference, he did say the nickel would be a 4 man front. Agreed. However, he also said he was trying to decide what percentage the rest of the defense would be. He seemed to allude that there would be 4 man fronts other than the nickel, he just hadn't decided on what percentage yet. Not 4-3, but 4 man fronts based off of the 3-4.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31759

I believe there have even been some 4 man fronts with Ware as a LB.

Now, this doesn't mean 4-3, but it does mean more 4 man fronts, which is a good thing. The most talent on the defense is on the DL (or the secondary, but not the LBers). Four man fronts will help get guys like Spears, Ellis, Canty, Ferguson and Glover on the field more.
If we drafted Ware as a DE (His position at Troy), why would BP state that he isn't suited to battle OT for 60 plays a game. He was drafted specifically to play OLB and DE on occasion. As for Spears, we already had a 4-3 DE that tallied 9.5 sacks. You don't state that Spears was the key to the draft if you were going to just replace Ellis with spears.
 

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And 50 cent, anyone who keeps calling someone "son" on a messageboard clearly has a very large inferiority complex. :rolleyes:
 

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dargonking999 said:
actaully i think our number 1 FA is Anothny Henry, so i would coulnt it as a loss of a season, i dont care what the tree players are, it still is only 3 players, Fergy would hurt us, but you have a 5 time probowler behind, Ware would hurt yes, Burnett isnt even a starter yet. Next
This statement here is why I'll never respond to you ever again. Just 3 players huh? Move on please. You lose your top 3 picks to injury and it shouldn't matter, why have the draft then? Please don't respond! :lmao:
 

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50cent said:
Well I guess you don't listen to toom any of the press conferences, because this is what BP stated. Its a 4 man front that is really playing off of the 3-4 technique. Keep up.

I listened to Parcells PC and no matter how you SPIN it the key words are

4 Man Front


I keep up just fine, they have been playing 4 man fronts in which a man drops back into coverage for at least 10 or 12 years and they are still 4 down lineman. Sorry if that crimps all you 3-4 psychos ego but 4 man front isn't a 3-4 regardless of the technique.
 

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And 50 cent, anyone who keeps calling someone "son" on a messageboard clearly has a very large inferiority complex. :rolleyes:
Why would you say that, son?
 

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Next_years_Champs said:
I listened to Parcells PC and no matter how you SPIN it the key words are

4 Man Front


I keep up just fine, they have been playing 4 man fronts in which a man drops back into coverage for at least 10 or 12 years and they are still 4 down lineman. Sorry if that crimps all you 3-4 psychos ego but 4 man front isn't a 3-4 regardless of the technique.
Yeah and a four man front isn't the

4-3! I didn't say they wouldn't use the 4 man front, please read more carefully!
 

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50cent said:
This statement here is why I'll never respond to you ever again. Just 3 players huh? Move on please. You lose your top 3 picks to injury and it shouldn't matter, why have the draft then? Please don't respond! :lmao:


Once again you just dont ever read anything i said if we lose the top three draft picks yes they will hurt us, but no they are not the end of our season, Burnett isnt a starter fergy has a 5 time probolwer backing him up and like i siad ware would hurt the most, and spear has canty behind him. Half the time the frist three draft picks of a team, dont even start in there first year. so learn to live in reality, instead of fantasy
 

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50cent said:
Why would you say that, son?

1: Because you feel the need to make yourself feel that you are on a higher level than him

2: You have the intellectual capacity of a severed chicken's head
 

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50cent said:
Yeah and a four man front isn't the

4-3! I didn't say they wouldn't use the 4 man front, please read more carefully!


then what is a 4 man fron, please inform me of a four man front that isnt the 4-3

we have the 4-3
3-4
3-3-5


maybe your talking about the 4-2-5?

does that even exist?
 

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50cent said:
Yeah and a four man front isn't the

4-3! I didn't say they wouldn't use the 4 man front, please read more carefully!

Sorry, but you are wrong. It's not that you are just mistaken, but you are wrong. :rolleyes:
 

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dargonking999 said:
then what is a 4 man fron, please inform me of a four man front that isnt the 4-3

we have the 4-3
3-4
3-3-5


maybe your talking about the 4-2-5?

does that even exist?

Yes, the 4-2-5 does exist, its called the nickel ;)
 

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50cent said:
Why would you say that, son?


BTW your not the father of me maybe somebody else, but not me so dont refer to me as son, no excuses no reason, i'm not your son so dont call me that.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
Yes, the 4-2-5 does exist, its called the nickel ;)


well so i stil stand right, he said outside of the nickel and well guess what thats the only D i know of a four man front.

(btw thanks i just always called it the nickel :D)
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
1: Because you feel the need to make yourself feel that you are on a higher level than him

2: You have the intellectual capacity of a severed chicken's head
Nice, and if you don't get this thread, your as dumb as a box of rocks. The name calling game is so easy. You may now move on son. No more responses for you either. Grow up, son is really slang for buddy or friend. Holla kid!
 

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Nice, and if you don't get this thread, your as dumb as a box of rocks. The name calling game is so easy. You may now move on son. No more responses for you either. Grow up, son is really slang for buddy or friend. Holla kid!

I don't get this thread? I'm not the one saying a four man front and 3 LBs isnt the 4-3. :rolleyes:
 

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I don't get this thread? I'm not the one saying a four man front and 3 LBs isnt the 4-3. :rolleyes:
Then I guess you don't understand this thread. We are a 3-4 team not a 4-3 team. People are holding hope that BP will go back to the 4-3 as our BASE defense. the 4-3 may be used as a situational D, but not as our BASE D. My statement earlier was also in the NICKLE Ware is not playing OLB, he is now playing DE with Dat and KB as the only LBS. Are you up to speed now? I know its complicated but not rocket science. Also my response to you was, just because its a 4 man front doesn't mean it automatically a 4-3. Keep up. Oh yeah, move on SON!
 
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