Let's get this Jerry thing right out in the open

[STSINAZ]

Show us a picture of a perfect GM...

Scott Pioli. continues to trade draft picks and pickup one round higher picks the next year...a master at that....look at what they did this year?

Adalius Thomas
Morris
Welker and now maybe Moss....looking good 3 superbowls out of 4 at one point...

 

[lspain1]

Scott Pioli.

You named one better than Jerry. How about Eagles GM Tom Heckert? Is he better than Jerry? Based upon recent records, you have to say he is but I wonder if Andy Reid doesn't have a huge part of that success.

 

[STSINAZ]

well i was just naming one...there are about 25 out there....look,,,any owner who has the audacity to think they can GM too stupid to know what they dont know...thats jerry...he can sign the checks...thats it in my book..we have a body of work here...he is terrible! if our future is in his hands we are in trouble and we had better win it all now before these players that PARCELLS BROUGHT IN get old or we are done....odds are that will happen...just watch....watch what he does...watch every move...you will see...watch who he drafts

 

[peplaw06]

Scott Pioli. continues to trade draft picks and pickup one round higher picks the next year...a master at that....look at what they did this year?

Adalius Thomas
Morris
Welker and now maybe Moss....looking good 3 superbowls out of 4 at one point...

ummmmm... I believe someone else die this in the 90s

 

[STSINAZ]

pioli had more credit than bp...

 

[jrumann59]

Can someone tell me who the GM was when we won 3 superbowls in the 90's? Honestly I thought it was Jerry Jones but STSINAZ's argument is so compelling I am actually thinking it was someone else.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Folks let's be totally honest here, everyone knows Jimmy Johnson was the brain trust behind those 90's teams but you have to give Jerry Jones credit for hiring him.

 

[VA Cowboy]

He latches onto a player, or a theory about a player and nothing gets in his way to stop him from getting him. I.E. Quincy Carter, Tony Dixon. Carver, Ekuban....should I stop now?

He also overpays for mediocre players. Those are the two things he does consistently. ....Wiley, Price, Anthony Thomas...the list goes on. The only thing he has done right in the past 4 years is hire Parcells and semi-get out of the way.

I can't argue with these facts.

 

[Big Country]

Scott Pioli. continues to trade draft picks and pickup one round higher picks the next year...a master at that....look at what they did this year?

Adalius Thomas
Morris
Welker and now maybe Moss....looking good 3 superbowls out of 4 at one point...

New England has one of the best philosophies in football. The front office and coaching staff has been very consistent under owner Robert Kraft. They have a versatile 3-4 defense and a potent offense with a superb QB leading the attack.

They have stuck to it for years and their recent success has been very attractive to free agents shopping the football market. For that purpose, the players buy into it and tow the company line willingly.

I hope Dallas can find that kind of success in the near future.

 

[NeonNinja]

I have a brilliant idea for everyone, stop replying to his/her posts!

 

[BrassCowboy]

I have a brilliant idea for everyone, stop replying to his/her posts!

 

[STSINAZ]

come on guys...jimmy built the team...lets get serious

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Show us a picture of a perfect GM...

PERFECT???? I'd just settle for competent at this point.

 

[calico]

Some carnita tacos would be great right about now...

 

[stealth]

Some carnita tacos would be great right about now...

man I can't get good mexican food in this town I moved to, I figured any where in texas would be safe but nope. Man I would kill for there to be a taqueria in my town KILL!!

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Can someone tell me who the GM was when we won 3 superbowls in the 90's? Honestly I thought it was Jerry Jones but STSINAZ's argument is so compelling I am actually thinking it was someone else.

Then WHY did all those blunders that STSINAZ mentioned is his orig. post happen after Jimmy left and why didn't blunders like that happen while Jimmy was here, just a thought provoking ?? Trying to help you GET IT!

 

[CIWhitefish]

Seriously, you can look at anything and put forth whatever conclusion you are looking for. Take the Pats for example. When they were letting go big name players right and left everyone touted their genius and how they can just plug anyone in. Now they aren't winning Superbowls and people are saying they let too many good people go. It's whatever you want to focus on. TO's a cancer, TO's a good guy, BP didn't do anything at Dallas, BP turned around a franchise, JJ is a crappy GM, JJ is a good GM. I know boards are great places for hyperbole but the truth is ALWAYS in the middle.

 

[Bleu Star]

Let's find out who knows football and who is a homer! BleuStar-homer

The hate for jones as a GM goes like this....for 10 years he put our team in such a disarray, it took parcells 4 years just to get us out of it! and we are still not there! what did jones do? he only overpaid for one of the biggest busts in recent history...he overpaid for a one year wonder in gurode...he overpaid for brad johnson...who is finished...all jerry does is overpay...he overpaid for rivera,,he was done...he overpaid for henry in my opinion. He hasnt done much but be injured. He overpaid for Roy Williams and now we couldnt get rid of him if we tried! He brought in a player that ran out Parcells! The question is what has he done that has been smart in the last 10 years....and dont get me started on the drafts the last 10 years before parcells got here. Dont get me started on the Galloway trade! Come on man I cant even believe you just made that statement bleustar!?????????????? Do you know anything about football?

So this is what I will say about Jerry. The two things he does consistently.

He latches onto a player, or a theory about a player and nothing gets in his way to stop him from getting him. I.E. Quincy Carter, Tony Dixon. Carver, Ekuban....should I stop now?

He also overpays for mediocre players. Those are the two things he does consistently. If that wins a championship then so be it! LOL....it never will. Bleu Star you need to take out what Bill has done the past 4 years and then look at our team. Dont look at what BP did in talent acquistions and mix it in with the stupid mistakes Jerry has made and say that Jerry is a God.....what a joke...I mean look at all the mistakes Jerry made the past 4 years....Wiley, Price, Anthony Thomas, TO...the list goes on. The thing about it is this. Almost everything that Jerry does individually from a GM standpoint with no help he screws up. You need to face that. He wants to know what to do but he just doesnt and that's the truth. I wish it wasnt so but it is. The only thing he has done right in the past 4 years is hire Parcells and semi-get out of the way.

Hey there chicken little. I see you're at it again. Hey here's an idea. Let's try to keep the board halfway clean. Instead of creating a new post every time you want to call someone out and flex your cyber manchest why don't you just reply to the threads and posts that you read. Here. I'll help you again. Keep it clean CL.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83606 post #32 gloomer.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I started to reply that Carver was not who we targeted and Ekuban fell tio us but then I realized this thread is braindead so i stopped.

We had to deal with Jerry's growing pains but hes now making smart decisions.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Let's find out who knows football and who is a homer! BleuStar-homer

The hate for jones as a GM goes like this....for 10 years he put our team in such a disarray, it took parcells 4 years just to get us out of it! and we are still not there! what did jones do? he only overpaid for one of the biggest busts in recent history...he overpaid for a one year wonder in gurode...he overpaid for brad johnson...who is finished...all jerry does is overpay...he overpaid for rivera,,he was done...he overpaid for henry in my opinion. He hasnt done much but be injured. He overpaid for Roy Williams and now we couldnt get rid of him if we tried! He brought in a player that ran out Parcells! The question is what has he done that has been smart in the last 10 years....and dont get me started on the drafts the last 10 years before parcells got here. Dont get me started on the Galloway trade! Come on man I cant even believe you just made that statement bleustar!?????????????? Do you know anything about football?

So this is what I will say about Jerry. The two things he does consistently.

He latches onto a player, or a theory about a player and nothing gets in his way to stop him from getting him. I.E. Quincy Carter, Tony Dixon. Carver, Ekuban....should I stop now?

He also overpays for mediocre players. Those are the two things he does consistently. If that wins a championship then so be it! LOL....it never will. Bleu Star you need to take out what Bill has done the past 4 years and then look at our team. Dont look at what BP did in talent acquistions and mix it in with the stupid mistakes Jerry has made and say that Jerry is a God.....what a joke...I mean look at all the mistakes Jerry made the past 4 years....Wiley, Price, Anthony Thomas, TO...the list goes on. The thing about it is this. Almost everything that Jerry does individually from a GM standpoint with no help he screws up. You need to face that. He wants to know what to do but he just doesnt and that's the truth. I wish it wasnt so but it is. The only thing he has done right in the past 4 years is hire Parcells and semi-get out of the way.

Well you won't get me arguing with you on ANY of THIS you wrote here. I used to be a blind Jerry defender, but I finally realized that he don't have a clue on how to build a successful team and that he WILL NOT ever let his grip of the team from the GM position until he dies.

Bill Parcells has taken ALL of the teams he has coached DEEP into the playoffs and won 2 titles, and even HE couldn't win with Jerry Jones as the GM, what does that tell ya.

When Jimmy was the coach here, Jerry was the GM in name only but every move was from the mind of Jimmy Johnson, Jerry was not an active GM no matter what anyone says or trys to argue. Proof? We won 2 SBs and the team still had enough leftover talent to win a 3rd. But hey I'm just a hater and I guess now you are too, according to the Blind Homer Yes Man Fans Club.

The ones who defend Jerry either don't know much about football or are in denial. Jerry makes nearly ALL of the GMs in the league other than the Lions and the Cards GMs look like geniuses.