Let's get this Jerry thing right out in the open

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bbgun;1419484 said:
Waaaaah! BBgun refuses to play our little game! Waaaaah!

It was a challenge that anybody who was truly interested in reasonable discourse would have been happy to take on... the way you're desperately avoiding any attempt to do so clearly shows you for the mindless hater you are...
 

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STSINAZ;1419535 said:
time to close this thread. I think I got my point across

Only point I got was that you're pretty much clueless...

I already knew that...

And how sad for you, that you don't get to dictate when a thread gets closed... you are, of course, welcome to slink away with your little troll tail tucked between your little troll legs...
 

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silverbear;1419595 said:
It was a challenge that anybody who was truly interested in reasonable discourse would have been happy to take on...

I played their little game, so you're a couple of hours behind the curve--as usual.

the way you're desperately avoiding any attempt to do so clearly shows you for the mindless hater you are...

And sheep like you hate Jen, Galloway, Dale, ESPN, etc. Get thee to a mirror.
 

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bbgun;1419538 said:
Fine, I'll play.

1) Fired Campo.
2) Fired Gailey.

LOL... it kinda figures that the first two things that popped into your head were when he got rid of somebody you detested...

As for me, I was down on him for hiring Campo, but on board with him hiring Gailey... even when he had to fire Gailey, I still thought it was a good move, that could have worked...

3) Poured his own money into a magnificent new stadium.

That's got nothing to do with him being a GM... that's Jerry the BUSINESSMAN...

5) Moved training camp to cooler California.

And now, he's moved it back to Texas... of course, this also has more to do with Jerry the businessman than Jerry the GM...

6) Innovative deals with companies like Nike.

Again, that's Jerry the businessman...

7) Swallowed his pride and hired a real, proven coach like Bill Parcells.

HALLELUJAH!!! Now, if you can just figure out that's evidence that Jerry has CHANGED, perhaps you can also figure out that your criticisms were once valid, but are now quite dated... almost ancient history...

8) Dumped Larry Lacewell.

Except he did no such thing... he just moved him to a less high-profile role in the organization-- by his own admission, Lacewell has been in place all along, and in Jerry's ear...

So, in your attempt to play the game, you came up with a number of things that reflected his talent as a BUSINESSMAN, rather than as a GM, and you gave him "credit" for something he didn't do... your other "positive" accomplishments involved either firing somebody you didn't like, or the one actual compliment you paid him, the hiring of Parcells...

Even when you DID pay him a deserved compliment, you still haven't figured out that hiring is why us "homers" believe he's changed...

Yes, for a time there after the Super Bowl runs, he made a lot of mistakes... some of them were forced on him, by the salary cap, but some of them were all on him...

HOWEVER, the day he hired Parcells, he said he finally got it, and his actions from that point to this have been different from what they were pre-Parcells... so criticisms of the pre-Parcells days are asinine, until and unless he gives us reason to believe he's reverted back to that form... given that his change in approach has worked fairly well, helping get the Boys back to the cusp of contention, it would be pretty ignorant to assume he's eager to change that new approach...

You have NO evidence that he's done any such thing, yet you act as if he never changed in the first place, never modified his approach to being a GM...
 

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bbgun;1419606 said:
I played their little game, so you're a couple of hours behind the curve--as usual.

After folks like me BAITED you into doing so... and even then, your attempt was comical...

And sheep like you hate Jen, Galloway, Dale, ESPN, etc.

Don't "hate" any of them, I just find them roughly as credible as I find you...

OK, that's not fair, there are very few people in the world that I've ever run across that I found to be as lacking in credibility as you are...
 

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STSINAZ;1419535 said:
time to close this thread. I think I got my point across and with Jerry's body of work post Jimmy as a GM it's pretty easy to see. He's a good owner but a BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD GM.

if you mean that you got 1 person to agree with you, sure. i'd say mission accomplished. : )
 

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silverbear;1419611 said:
LOL... it kinda figures that the first two things that popped into your head were when he got rid of somebody you detested...

As for me, I was down on him for hiring Campo, but on board with him hiring Gailey... even when he had to fire Gailey, I still thought it was a good move, that could have worked...



That's got nothing to do with him being a GM... that's Jerry the BUSINESSMAN...



And now, he's moved it back to Texas... of course, this also has more to do with Jerry the businessman than Jerry the GM...



Again, that's Jerry the businessman...



HALLELUJAH!!! Now, if you can just figure out that's evidence that Jerry has CHANGED, perhaps you can also figure out that your criticisms were once valid, but are now quite dated... almost ancient history...



Except he did no such thing... he just moved him to a less high-profile role in the organization-- by his own admission, Lacewell has been in place all along, and in Jerry's ear...

So, in your attempt to play the game, you came up with a number of things that reflected his talent as a BUSINESSMAN, rather than as a GM, and you gave him "credit" for something he didn't do... your other "positive" accomplishments involved either firing somebody you didn't like, or the one actual compliment you paid him, the hiring of Parcells...

Even when you DID pay him a deserved compliment, you still haven't figured out that hiring is why us "homers" believe he's changed...

Yes, for a time there after the Super Bowl runs, he made a lot of mistakes... some of them were forced on him, by the salary cap, but some of them were all on him...

HOWEVER, the day he hired Parcells, he said he finally got it, and his actions from that point to this have been different from what they were pre-Parcells... so criticisms of the pre-Parcells days are asinine, until and unless he gives us reason to believe he's reverted back to that form... given that his change in approach has worked fairly well, helping get the Boys back to the cusp of contention, it would be pretty ignorant to assume he's eager to change that new approach...

You have NO evidence that he's done any such thing, yet you act as if he never changed in the first place, never modified his approach to being a GM...

Bear, do you have a brain tumor? Are you reading-impaired? Here's Brainpaint's explicit instructions:

Now BBGun or others that always negative against Jerry.

Write a post with all of the things you think Jerry did right since Jimmy Left.

No bad things, no compliments with BUT or HOWEVER and such...Just the things you consider to be good.

Where do you see him limiting me to "Jerry the GM" praise only? Of course, I knew this was a setup from the very beginning. I knew that no matter how gracious I was, IT STILL WOULDN'T BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE SHEEP. And you've proven that in spades. Funny how I get no credit for praising his business acumen. I mean, as an owner, that is his main responsibility. BTW, you weren't elated when Campo and Gailey were cut loose? I have to ask, because I need to gauge just how deranged you really are.

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silverbear;1419612 said:
Don't "hate" any of them, I just find them roughly as credible as I find you...

Sorry, but you doubted my sincerity in the "Jerry praise" thread, so I'm doubting your sincerity here.
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1419628 said:
Wow, you guys are wearin' this thread out, ya'll tryin' to get to 500?:D

no, just 1 sign of intelligence from bbgun.
 

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bbgun;1419636 said:
you first

bees! bees in the car!! they're everywhere!!!
your firearms are useless against them!!!

there, that made about as much sense as our reply and is at least more original, if not less confusing.
 

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iceberg;1419639 said:
bees! bees in the car!! they're everywhere!!!
your firearms are useless against them!!!

there, that made about as much sense as our reply and is at least more original, if not less confusing.

Triteness is all you deserve. Well, that and a Tetanus shot.
 

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bbgun;1419622 said:
Sorry, but you doubted my sincerity in the "Jerry praise" thread, so I'm doubting your sincerity here.


well considering you refused to play along for awhile, it's hard to take you seroiusly when it's not something you're willing/wanting to do.

but yay you - you did it!!!
 

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iceberg;1419643 said:
fyi - we're still waiting.

Sure, just as soon as you call for Jerry to end this charade and hire a real GM. Tick tock.
 

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bbgun;1419651 said:
Sure, just as soon as you call for Jerry to end this charade and hire a real GM. Tick tock.

oh i don't think you'd say something intelligent even then...:laugh2:
 

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iceberg;1419654 said:
oh i don't think you'd say something intelligent even then...:laugh2:

I'd be too busy hanging party streamers and kissing Bear on the mouth.
 
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