Let's not shy away from it. We have the best QB in the league

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I love Dak. Think he is worth every penny. However he is not the best QB in football. I think he will win MVP this year but that is a different conversation. However if a hypothetical trade was to give up Dak for Mahomes all 32 GMs make that trade. In fact they wonder why they do not also have to give up multiple 1s. Dak is playing elite ball but there is a gap between Mahomes, and a healthy Burrow but that injury history is becoming problematic, and the rest of the league.
 

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Based on current QB market...Dak is worth his pay. Historic stats back it up.

If he is a choker in big games...ITS ON THE COACHES AND DEFENSE TO CARRY HIM TOO!

Pretty simple.

QB market is what it is. I dont completely agree with it. But Im not being unreasonable and putting all blame on highest paid player that can FOR SURE drive a bus when there are other elements on the game that need to carry him too.

Haters cant stand this point of view and are left scrambling for weak excuses and wordsmithing to justify hate.

It moves the conversation to...if you think Dak isnt a winner and will choke...are you suggesting you wouldnt have him on your roster for league minimum? A choker is a choker right? Why have him if he is a choker? Or...is there a dollar amount you think is justifiable? Say 30M. You think Dallas can put that much of a better roster around Dak with 15 to 20 extra mil? Sure...depth might be ok...but this team is already stacked with a high paid QB.

Either he is not roster-able or he is. Which is it haters?

The excuses are flimsy these days.
No one wants to comment.

Im sure I will be band for a few days.
 

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I love Dak. Think he is worth every penny. However he is not the best QB in football. I think he will win MVP this year but that is a different conversation. However if a hypothetical trade was to give up Dak for Mahomes all 32 GMs make that trade. In fact they wonder why they do not also have to give up multiple 1s. Dak is playing elite ball but there is a gap between Mahomes, and a healthy Burrow but that injury history is becoming problematic, and the rest of the league.
I will take the bait...

Can you elaborate on your package for Mahommes?

What are your points of interest? Does Dak not excel in a Reed system? Does Mahommes not falter with "Jones Boys" contracts?

I agree that I think Mahommes is the more gifted QB. But I think Dak is pretty damn good all around. What are the trade offs?

Assuming its a straight up deal(im not familiar with nfl trades...i know nba trades can get complicated)...Dak for Mahommes and what kind of draft picks? Genuine question. Does the benefit outweigh the cost? With McClay buying groceries and current roster...I would think it makes sense...but at what cost? There is a point where I think the cost might be too much and running with a very solid QB in Dak makes more sense.
 

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I will take the bait...

Can you elaborate on your package for Mahommes?

What are your points of interest? Does Dak not excel in a Reed system? Does Mahommes not falter with "Jones Boys" contracts?

I agree that I think Mahommes is the more gifted QB. But I think Dak is pretty damn good all around. What are the trade offs?

Assuming its a straight up deal(im not familiar with nfl trades...i know nba trades can get complicated)...Dak for Mahommes and what kind of draft picks? Genuine question. Does the benefit outweigh the cost? With McClay buying groceries and current roster...I would think it makes sense...but at what cost? There is a point where I think the cost might be too much and running with a very solid QB in Dak makes more sense.
If Dak is the best QB in the league and you were offered straight up Dak for Mahomes (lets even have Dak agree to sign an extension that gives the same cap hits as Mahomes just to make it more even), there is not a GM in the entire NFL who does not jump at the chance to make that swap. You cant be the best in the NFL when every single GM would trade you straight up for another guy at the same position.
 

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I don't know if he's going to win the MVP or if we're going to win every game but we need to stop dancing around it. Dak is playing the position better than any other QB in the game and has been for some time now. It's no longer about whether he's top 10 or "elite." It's about is anybody better. The argument could certainly be made that Purdy is certainly on the same level but that ignores the fact that he's getting WAY more YAC than Dak is and the main statistical advantage Purdy has right now is yards per attempt by 1.5 yards I believe and that is almost completely a result of the fact that the Niners' receivers are averaging 1.5 more yards per catch than the Cowboys' receivers. Purdy is clearly ballin, but Dak is ballin more! But at this point Dak and Purdy are 1 and 1a at the QB position. Nobody else is playing as well as those two.
In December.

It remains to be seen if he is the best in January because let’s not shy away from it - we’ve been here before.

If we win it all great. Nobody will care but If Dak flames out in the playoffs again we are going to give him a huge extension and the expense of good to great players and we will be in trouble for a long time.

It’s not wrong or even bad to question Dak in January.

It’s fair.
 

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In December.

It remains to be seen if he is the best in January because let’s not shy away from it - we’ve been here before.

If we win it all great. Nobody will care but If Dak flames out in the playoffs again we are going to give him a huge extension and the expense of good to great players and we will be in trouble for a long time.

It’s not wrong or even bad to question Dak in January.

It’s fair.
Define flames out.

Is it on coaching or team?

Define it.
 
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If Dak is the best QB in the league and you were offered straight up Dak for Mahomes (lets even have Dak agree to sign an extension that gives the same cap hits as Mahomes just to make it more even), there is not a GM in the entire NFL who does not jump at the chance to make that swap. You cant be the best in the NFL when every single GM would trade you straight up for another guy at the same position.
Im suggesting it isnt straight up. What is your package?

Does Mahommes excel with "Jones Boys" given his talent or are there excuses if he doesnt? Does Dak excel in Reed system or not?

What is your package for Mahommes if he is the best in the league? Is it worth letting Dak go and giving up draft assets?
 

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In December.

It remains to be seen if he is the best in January because let’s not shy away from it - we’ve been here before.

If we win it all great. Nobody will care but If Dak flames out in the playoffs again we are going to give him a huge extension and the expense of good to great players and we will be in trouble for a long time.

It’s not wrong or even bad to question Dak in January.

It’s fair.
No one cares if he wins but only cares if he loses.

Sums everything up. Feel good about yourself.

Youre profit seeking and will hurt others for profit.
 

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I don't know if he's going to win the MVP or if we're going to win every game but we need to stop dancing around it. Dak is playing the position better than any other QB in the game and has been for some time now. It's no longer about whether he's top 10 or "elite." It's about is anybody better. The argument could certainly be made that Purdy is certainly on the same level but that ignores the fact that he's getting WAY more YAC than Dak is and the main statistical advantage Purdy has right now is yards per attempt by 1.5 yards I believe and that is almost completely a result of the fact that the Niners' receivers are averaging 1.5 more yards per catch than the Cowboys' receivers. Purdy is clearly ballin, but Dak is ballin more! But at this point Dak and Purdy are 1 and 1a at the QB position. Nobody else is playing as well as those two.
Let’s not shy away from your right and he’s going to sign a deal that makes him the highest paid QB/player in NFL history. And he’s earned it. Someone will surpass his compensation package at some point, but I’ll bet he’ll be guaranteed even more than Watson.
 

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I love Dak. Think he is worth every penny. However he is not the best QB in football. I think he will win MVP this year but that is a different conversation. However if a hypothetical trade was to give up Dak for Mahomes all 32 GMs make that trade. In fact they wonder why they do not also have to give up multiple 1s. Dak is playing elite ball but there is a gap between Mahomes, and a healthy Burrow but that injury history is becoming problematic, and the rest of the league.
I don’t see how he is MVP, unless he wins the Super Bowl.

Purdy has it locked.
 

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You made that statement. You made it the subject.

How pathetic, classless and hypocritical. Bow your head in shame.
Dude, get me out of your head. Lol. I don’t hold grudges. Move on. I feel bad you get picked on all the time. Is that why you’re trying to insult everybody else. Like how old are you?
 

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In December.

It remains to be seen if he is the best in January because let’s not shy away from it - we’ve been here before.

If we win it all great. Nobody will care but If Dak flames out in the playoffs again we are going to give him a huge extension and the expense of good to great players and we will be in trouble for a long time.

It’s not wrong or even bad to question Dak in January.

It’s fair.
Truth.

Prove us wrong Dak.
 

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He is currently playing the best ball, as good as any other QB. We'll see how he closes out the season. He was pretty mediocre for the first 1/3 of the season and then started blasting off. As a fan obviously I want that to continue, but time will tell.
Playing all of those scrub teams helped.

Dak gets his chance to shut us up today.
 

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I don't know if he's going to win the MVP or if we're going to win every game but we need to stop dancing around it. Dak is playing the position better than any other QB in the game and has been for some time now. It's no longer about whether he's top 10 or "elite." It's about is anybody better. The argument could certainly be made that Purdy is certainly on the same level but that ignores the fact that he's getting WAY more YAC than Dak is and the main statistical advantage Purdy has right now is yards per attempt by 1.5 yards I believe and that is almost completely a result of the fact that the Niners' receivers are averaging 1.5 more yards per catch than the Cowboys' receivers. Purdy is clearly ballin, but Dak is ballin more! But at this point Dak and Purdy are 1 and 1a at the QB position. Nobody else is playing as well as those two.
Completely agree... but only playoff wins will define Dak.
 

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I don’t see how he is MVP, unless he wins the Super Bowl.

Purdy has it locked.
MVP is purely a regular season award given out well before the Super Bowl. Numbers wise they are basically the same so the question really is do you value Dak doing it with worse weapons or Purdy doing it against harder competition? Purdy will also likely take a hit as people fawn over CMac.
 

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Ok….but Dak got destroyed by Purdy in the SF game.
First of all unless I missed something Dak and Purdy did not spend a single snap on the field against one another. Dak was playing in a compromised offense with three starters coming off injury while Purdy was squaring off a defense still trying to figure out how to play without Diggs. The Cowboys got their butts kicked to be sure but that team from the first of October was nothing like what this team is currently. Dak has taken his game up SEVERAL notches since then as have his receivers and the results speak for themselves. Since that game the Cowboys have been the best team in the league and Dak has been the best QB in the league. And there really is no sane argument against that.
 
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