Let's talk about Dak

[BIGDen]

Romo had them competing for the division title from 2011-2013? Ok, so what happened during those 3 years? How did they end up? Did they even win a division title? Did they even make the playoffs?

What do you think Dak is doing right now with a much worse and lesser talented Offense??? Chicken soup? If you haven't noticed, the Cowboys are about to secure a division title and the playoffs during these last two games as they only need 1 victory. I guarantee they won't choke that away as the Romo-led Cowboys did between 2011-2013.

Was this a serious response? Dallas is only where they are right now because of their defense and Zeke. Romo had them winning every other game despite horrific defenses and OL play. Dak desperately relies on Zeke and his defense. Do you even watch the games?

 

[Captain-Crash]

Daks the best quarterback ever, the other teams just won't let him score.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Was this a serious response? Dallas is only where they are right now because of their defense and Zeke. Romo had them winning every other game despite horrific defenses and OL play. Dak desperately relies on Zeke and his defense. Do you even watch the games?

Yes, it's a serious response. Do you watch the games?

 

[camelboy]

Let's talk about Dak?

What are all those threads in all zones doing?

 

[hopemsu]

Absolutely, because he was a MUCH BETTER QB. Romo had those teams competing for the division title from 2011-2013 despite have some of the worst OLs and defenses in history! Imagine if he had this defense? He even made Laurent Robinson look like a stud. He would have been more than fine with Cooper, Gallup, Beasley and Zeke. Romo made everyone around him better, had amazing pocket presence and accuracy. Dak has one ability that Romo didn't have, he can run. Unfortunately, that doesn't really matter because he rarely runs despite the fact that it could offset some of his significant flaws as a passer. Dak is not a very good QB, but he has some things that he can do well like run and throw on the run. Of course, we rarely use roll-outs and he doesn't take off with the ball often. Linehan and Dak are the albatrosses of this team. Throw in a banged up OL and this offense is a mess.

We once again have a terrible offensive line, and will win the division in spite of the OL... seems pretty apples to apples to me

 

[Sydla]

There is good and bad when it comes to Dak, and there is probably more good than bad. But let's talk about the rubber meeting the road with him. He must have an above average line in front of him to be successful. That takes him out of the elite category by itself.

His pocket awareness and ball security inside the pocket are both below average. I am not sure that is going to improve much.

He also has a tendency to over throw open receivers on the deep ball, especially Gallup. That's points left off the board.

Dak has proven to be a winner, but all of the forgoing SIGNIFiCANTLY limit his value and upside. If we are going to keep Dak around, then we must ensure that the OL remains a priority. He also needs a stud RB so we better find an acceptable backup for Zeke.

All of the above need to be seriously considered when Dak gets his next contract. We also need to be looking for a backup that may eventually supplant Dak if these factors don't improve over time.

Keep an eye out for Carr if he gets cut by the Raiders, as no one is taking on that contract. He was playing at a pro bowl level and the Raiders sucked the life out of him just like it did Amari. He may still have some life left in him too.

Man what I wouldn't give to see this team with Kyler Murray on it.

He’s not elite even with a great OL

 

[BoysForLife]

Do you think today's Romo could have done better behind this Oline, no stud TE and only 1 true stud WR that was barely picked up halfway through the season?

I read the post you replied to, the guy didn’t mention Romo. So why did you?

If Prescott is the stud you keep claiming he is then why can’t we discuss his performances on their own merits?

 

[BoysForLife]

Yes, it's a serious response. Do you watch the games?

Do you?

We just saw the first cowboy shut out since Quincy friggin Carter.

Think about the genuinely bad offensive lines That we’ve had in Dallas since 2003. I’m not talking about putting down the current line to provide cover for Prescott. I’m talking about legitimately bad offensive lines

There were years when our top receiver was a guy named Laurent Robinson. And we didn’t have the league leading rusher in the back field to help take some of the pressure off

And we still never got shutout

Yesterday was historically bad. We all watch the game and we were all sickened by what we saw

Or at least we should have been

 

[America's Cowboy]

I read the post you replied to, the guy didn’t mention Romo. So why did you?

If Prescott is the stud you keep claiming he is then why can’t we discuss his performances on their own merits?

If Romo was the stud in his late years y'all keep insisting, you shouldn't be worried if I bring him up for discussion.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Do you?

We just saw the first cowboy shut out since Quincy friggin Carter.

Think about the genuinely bad offensive lines That we’ve had in Dallas since 2003. I’m not talking about putting down the current line to provide cover for Prescott. I’m talking about legitimately bad offensive lines

There were years when our top receiver was a guy named Laurent Robinson. And we didn’t have the league leading rusher in the back field to help take some of the pressure off

And we still never got shutout

Yesterday was historically bad. We all watch the game and we were all sickened by what we saw

Or at least we should have been

The shutout yesterday didn't happen because of the inability to get in scoring range/position, and you know it.

 

[Blackrain]

Romo would have done better but not good enough. Romo needed perfection to succeed. He could just put up better stats in failure to make some think nothing was his fault.

Exactly Romo would have done better right up to the point when Michael Bennett would have hit him in the 1st Eagles game then he would have been done for the season . Being that physically fragile dose us no good at all .

 

[irishline]

1. Prescott has won more games in his 45 starts than Romo won in his last 45, so Dak wins more games
2. Dak has won more games in his first three seasons.

Neither of these are actually true:

First 45:

Dak - 30-15
Romo- 31-14

Last 45:
Romo - 30-15

Well said. An honest and realistic post. Thank you.

Well, honest except for the fact that it is inaccurate.

 

[BoysForLife]

The shutout yesterday didn't happen because of the inability to get in scoring range/position, and you know it.

When did I ever say that it did?

Inability to capitalize in the red zone is not a new thing for Prescott. It’s been an issue for quite some time

 

[Jenky]

There is good and bad when it comes to Dak, and there is probably more good than bad. But let's talk about the rubber meeting the road with him. He must have an above average line in front of him to be successful. That takes him out of the elite category by itself.

His pocket awareness and ball security inside the pocket are both below average. I am not sure that is going to improve much.

He also has a tendency to over throw open receivers on the deep ball, especially Gallup. That's points left off the board.

Dak has proven to be a winner, but all of the forgoing SIGNIFiCANTLY limit his value and upside. If we are going to keep Dak around, then we must ensure that the OL remains a priority. He also needs a stud RB so we better find an acceptable backup for Zeke.

All of the above need to be seriously considered when Dak gets his next contract. We also need to be looking for a backup that may eventually supplant Dak if these factors don't improve over time.

Keep an eye out for Carr if he gets cut by the Raiders, as no one is taking on that contract. He was playing at a pro bowl level and the Raiders sucked the life out of him just like it did Amari. He may still have some life left in him too.

Man what I wouldn't give to see this team with Kyler Murray on it.

So now you finally concede and want Carr? lol

 

[BoysForLife]

If Romo was the stud in his late years y'all keep insisting, you shouldn't be worried if I bring him up for discussion.

Again I didn’t mention him and neither did the other guy

I don’t blame you, if I was a Prescott sniffer I wouldn’t want to talk about his performance yesterday either. Hell I’d want to talk about anything but his performance yesterday

 

[Sydla]

He is what he is. He's not elite, likely even great, he's not terrible or awful. He's likely a QB in the 10-15ish range. He'll have a game where he dazzles you and then he'll have games where he looks like he's never played QB before. He's a QB that can't elevate a team consistently, he needs a team around him to perform.

I don't know why people struggle to admit this.

Can you win with him (and by that mean win three or four straight playoff games against good teams to win a SB)? My gut says no which is why I am not all in on him.

However, I am not blind to the reality that right now we don't have many options at QB, so he has to be it. I just hope they get him a creative OC and maybe a new QB coach this offseason.

 

[Blackrain]

The shutout yesterday didn't happen because of the inability to get in scoring range/position, and you know it.

I could be dead wrong AC but I believe there DC being our former LB coach had more to do with us getting shut out than most realize . Garret dosent have the most imaginative play book and the Colt defense looked like they knew it cold

 

[SoupcanSam]

There is good and bad when it comes to Dak, and there is probably more good than bad. But let's talk about the rubber meeting the road with him. He must have an above average line in front of him to be successful. That takes him out of the elite category by itself.

His pocket awareness and ball security inside the pocket are both below average. I am not sure that is going to improve much.

He also has a tendency to over throw open receivers on the deep ball, especially Gallup. That's points left off the board.

Dak has proven to be a winner, but all of the forgoing SIGNIFiCANTLY limit his value and upside. If we are going to keep Dak around, then we must ensure that the OL remains a priority. He also needs a stud RB so we better find an acceptable backup for Zeke.

All of the above need to be seriously considered when Dak gets his next contract. We also need to be looking for a backup that may eventually supplant Dak if these factors don't improve over time.

Keep an eye out for Carr if he gets cut by the Raiders, as no one is taking on that contract. He was playing at a pro bowl level and the Raiders sucked the life out of him just like it did Amari. He may still have some life left in him too.

Man what I wouldn't give to see this team with Kyler Murray on it.

Kyler Murray isnt even tall enough to sit on the toilet.

Pass

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Kyler Murray will likely play baseball, so he's out unless he does a Deion Sanders.

 

[Diehardblues]

Was this a serious response? Dallas is only where they are right now because of their defense and Zeke. Romo had them winning every other game despite horrific defenses and OL play. Dak desperately relies on Zeke and his defense. Do you even watch the games?

Right ..

Our team has completely taken an about face in Dak era. We’ve become a bottom tier offense with a league leading RB and a top 5 defense carrying it contending for the playoffs.

We haven’t been shut out since 2003 with Quincy Carter who was led to the playoffs with a top 5 defense.

Dak has game, moxy and a winning attitude but he lacks elite NFL prolific passing skills,limits our downfield passing schemes, playcalling, Redzone offense with inconsistency in accuracy.

We can win with him . How much is yet to be seen.