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For now, I have to hope dieting works, because I'm so dead-set against the every-day-pill idea. I think it's the scam of it all that has turned me off on modern medicine.

I believe "they" could figure out a cure if they were so inclined. The problem is, there is no money in cures. Big pharma is looking for pills you have to take every day for the rest of your life that typically only combat the symptoms because that obviously pays bigger dividends in the long-run.

I'm not donating to that effort if I can help it.

I'm sorry, but that's just BS.
 

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Thanks brother. I may eventually have to resort to that if my current strategy doesn't work. Believe it or not, my doctor suggested I go the dieting route first anyway. That was my plan regardless, but he did recommend that we try this and see if that doesn't fix it. And then if the flare ups continue, we might consider a more aggressive approach. Well, he might consider it, but I'm going to avoid it like the plague, if I can help it.
I completely understand. :thumbup: My wife is very attentive and hung on to every word as the doctor counseled us about my gout condition and the changes that need to be made to correct the condition. She took it personal that my diet could effect me like that. Trust me, the drastic changes we made in nutritional habits WAS the aggressive approach and we did that for several years. I'm not saying cutting out fast food and soda hasn't been good for me but I don't think it made the difference in my gout condition near as much as resigning to the fact that some pills do actually work. Krystexxa has truly been a miracle for me... but that's me. You do what works for you and I wish you all the health in the world.
 

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Salt is ok depending on your diet. I follow a ketoish diet and need to add additional salt to my food.

I don't eat sugar ( just once n a while some natural sweet fruits) if I don't see 0 sugar i don't buy.No easy carbs since easy carbs turn to sugar.
Salt on the other hand is ok as long you don't take too much of it.

check out the natural stevia it is good substitute for sugar. I make my chocolate bar and sweet sometimes with it if i want a sweet taste.
I also make my bread ( pizza dough) from cauliflower .
 

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Can you afford kidney disease?

I hear what you're saying, but you may not be grasping the long term effects of this condition.
The ROI and risk vs benefit strongly favors medical treatment.

The bigger question is don't you have insurance?
Exactly!! :hammer:
 

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I don't eat sugar ( just once n a while some natural sweet fruits) if I don't see 0 sugar i don't buy.No easy carbs since easy carbs turn to sugar.
Salt on the other hand is ok as long you don't take too much of it.

check out the natural stevia it is good substitute for sugar. I make my chocolate bar and sweet sometimes with it if i want a sweet taste.
I also make my bread ( pizza dough) from cauliflower .

Yep. I use Stevia as well. I have carb refeeds every 1-2 weeks. The fruits I mainly eat are berries (raspberries, blue berries), avocado, and tomatoes.

If you love Cauliflower, I make a mean 'Mac' n Cheese :) Also make a really good Zucchini 'ravoili' :)
 

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Yep. I use Stevia as well. I have carb refeeds every 1-2 weeks. The fruits I mainly eat are berries (raspberries, blue berries), avocado, and tomatoes.

If you love Cauliflower, I make a mean 'Mac' n Cheese :) Also make a really good Zucchini 'ravoili' :)

ohh you can't go wrong with berries.my breakfast most of the time is oatmeal and berries.I also make Zucchini quiche and muffin .
 

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I'm sorry, but that's just BS.
This from the guy that likely catches bonuses for prescribing the aforementioned every-day pill.

I get that it's not your fault that medicine is more about money than cures, but that fact undermines my ability to believe anything you say. Nothing personal. :)
 

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@jday - you can make pizza crust many different ways :) For instance you can use canned chicken, which is surprisingly better than you would think.
 

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This from the guy that likely catches bonuses for prescribing the aforementioned every-day pill.

I get that it's not your fault that medicine is more about money than cures, but that fact undermines my ability to believe anything you say. Nothing personal. :)

There are no bonuses, no conflict of interests.
I get paid fee for service only, covering my own overhead.

I know people who have worked their whole lives for cures; an example is Hepatitis C, now curable, previously fatal. How can you say all the cancers cures aren't legitimate?
Look at the severe diseases and viral syndromes that have been nearly wiped of the planet, until some conspiracy idiots spread the ill-informed rumor that vaccines are bad, now causing re-emergence of widespread illness.

I realize you're stating your personal opinions, but my responsibility to main-stream science-based medicine requires me to set the record straight.

BTW, I'm also a Principal Investigator in clinical trials, so I'm well-versed in the drug approval (or rejection) process, which is rigorous.
 

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There are no bonuses, no conflict of interests.
I get paid fee for service only, covering my own overhead.

I know people who have worked their whole lives for cures; an example is Hepatitis C, now curable, previously fatal. How can you say all the cancers cures aren't legitimate?
Look at the severe diseases and viral syndromes that have been nearly wiped of the planet, until some conspiracy idiots spread the ill-informed rumor that vaccines are bad, now causing re-emergence of widespread illness.

I realize you're stating your personal opinions, but my responsibility to main-stream science-based medicine requires me to set the record straight.

BTW, I'm also a Principal Investigator in clinical trials, so I'm well-versed in the drug approval (or rejection) process, which is rigorous.
You very well may be the exception to that rule; doesn't change the fact that there are doctors out there collecting bonuses to prescribe certain drugs. And since I have no way of knowing one way or another which drugs doctors are paid to recommend and which drugs are being prescribed honestly, I lean against relying on drugs all together.

Part of my issue is that I have seen the dark side of modern medicine first hand. For years my sister was prescribed a barbiturate that was later found to be extremely harmful if taken for more than a few months. She now cannot work and has a whole host of medical issues as a result. She is currently involved in a lawsuit against the doctor, whom it turns out had done this to several of his patients and made quite a bit of money from the "kick backs" for prescribing it in the first place.

Perhaps he is the outlier in an otherwise benevolent industry but I seriously doubt it. I'm sure it bothers you a great deal that your word suffers as a result of the bad eggs in your field, but it is what it is. Regardless of that, I strongly believe that all options of treatment should be explored before ever considering taking a drug for the rest of your life to manage the problem. On this, my doctor agrees.

So, for now, I'll take the approach of fixing my diet. If problems persist, I may have to consider it. But from what I've read, I am on the right track. :thumbup:
 

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I've forwarded the link to my wife. We'll probably try it this weekend! Thanks!
This is a start and you can be more creative with your recipe ,and trust me the less you have easy carbs the better in overall health.
Eat more of complex carbs( beans,oat,quinoa, green vegetables, none sweet fruits, and fish).
 

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This is a start and you can be more creative with your recipe ,and trust me the less you have easy carbs the better in overall health.
Eat more of complex carbs( beans,oat,quinoa, green vegetables, none sweet fruits, and fish).
My diet actually warns against many types of fish, but fortunately Salmon is not one of them. As for pizza, oddly enough, from my early 20's I develop a love for vegetable pizza, so to use a vegetable as the crust is extremely intriguing to me. About once a month or so my wife would buy the Pillsbury pizza doe and we would make pizza's with mostly vegetables, but sometimes Turkey Pepperoni also.
 

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My diet actually warns against many types of fish, but fortunately Salmon is not one of them. As for pizza, oddly enough, from my early 20's I develop a love for vegetable pizza, so to use a vegetable as the crust is extremely intriguing to me. About once a month or so my wife would buy the Pillsbury pizza doe and we would make pizza's with mostly vegetables, but sometimes Turkey Pepperoni also.
Squeezing the water out might takes some time and effort, but it really isn’t any more effort than making a traditional dough. And no rising time so it is much faster at the end.
 

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And that is the craziest thing about getting gout. Typically, the obese or the old get gout. I think I may have got it as a result of a high protein / low carb diet I started about a year ago.

Really? You can get gout that fast from a diet? And you said it lasts forever? That sucks. Sorry to hear that. Also kinda scary for anyone considering/doing diets. Keep eating crap and you're gonna die, cut out the crap and you'll get gout. You can't win anymore.
 

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Really? You can get gout that fast from a diet? And you said it lasts forever? That sucks. Sorry to hear that. Also kinda scary for anyone considering/doing diets. Keep eating crap and you're gonna die, cut out the crap and you'll get gout. You can't win anymore.
Here's what I think happened:

When I started the diet, I was exercising regularly and using the protein I was consuming. When I fell away from exercise, but continued the same protein in-take my body started having issues processing it. And gout became me.

So, my gameplan is to back away from the proteins for the time being in the bulk that I was consuming them and get myself back into shape. Once my regimen is up and going, I can probably consume more of the aforementioned no-no's. For now, though, I have to observe the diet.
 

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Squeezing the water out might takes some time and effort, but it really isn’t any more effort than making a traditional dough. And no rising time so it is much faster at the end.
I have several strainers at my disposal that should make that process easier. But how dry does it have to be before starting to create the doe?
 
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