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Here's what I think happened:

When I started the diet, I was exercising regularly and using the protein I was consuming. When I fell away from exercise, but continued the same protein in-take my body started having issues processing it. And gout became me.

So, my gameplan is to back away from the proteins for the time being in the bulk that I was consuming them and get myself back into shape. Once my regimen is up and going, I can probably consume more of the aforementioned no-no's. For now, though, I have to observe the diet.
'Like' for using "no-no" :)

You're such a dad! :laugh:
 

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Here's what I think happened:

When I started the diet, I was exercising regularly and using the protein I was consuming. When I fell away from exercise, but continued the same protein in-take my body started having issues processing it. And gout became me.

So, my gameplan is to back away from the proteins for the time being in the bulk that I was consuming them and get myself back into shape. Once my regimen is up and going, I can probably consume more of the aforementioned no-no's. For now, though, I have to observe the diet.

Were you doing some kind of protein supplements or just eating a lot of meat? Most Americans eat a crap load of protein and don't even get off the couch. But I can see those supplements doing the trick if you don't pair it with exercise.
 

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I have several strainers at my disposal that should make that process easier. But how dry does it have to be before starting to create the doe?
Yes the key is to get the moisture out.
what I do sometimes is after running through the food processor,I spread the cauliflower in a skillet over medium low heat and stir every couple of minutes to release the steam.
 

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Were you doing some kind of protein supplements or just eating a lot of meat? Most Americans eat a crap load of protein and don't even get off the couch. But I can see those supplements doing the trick if you don't pair it with exercise.
Something I've noticed:

If you never workout, your metabolism conforms to your life style and it can be somewhat easy to maintain your weight just by making decent food choices. However, if your metabolism ever gets used to the idea that you exercise every day and then you stop, you will of a sudden gain weight really quick.

For instance, I've known a lot of guys (my father included) who once were big time weight lifters but quit as they got older. They immediately ballooned up due to having slowed their own metabolism through working out.

My best guess is that something similar has happened to me. Not that I'm a balloon now, but that after several years of a good aerobic exercise regimen, I trailed off to not being as committed to it and as a result I actually did harm to how my body processes protein. The result? A high level of Uric Acid in my bloodstream forming crystals in the joints of my left big toe.

Mind you, I'm not a doctor. But I am an avid reader and observer of my surroundings. I think I have a pretty good handle on how this situation came about.
 
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Yes the key is to get the moisture out.
what I do sometimes is after running through the food processor,I spread the cauliflower in a skillet over medium low heat and stir every couple of minutes to release the steam.

Sounds like a good idea. Can I use a blender in lieu of a food processor on the cauliflower?
 
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Were you doing some kind of protein supplements or just eating a lot of meat? Most Americans eat a crap load of protein and don't even get off the couch. But I can see those supplements doing the trick if you don't pair it with exercise.
And I just realized I never answered your question. No protein supplements...just a high protein intake, and very little carbs from fruit or desserts. And, yes, I fell away from the exercise so starting this next Monday I intend to get back at it.
 

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And I just realized I never answered your question. No protein supplements...just a high protein intake, and very little carbs from fruit or desserts. And, yes, I fell away from the exercise so starting this next Monday I intend to get back at it.
Baby steps just choosing the right food to eat ,and being active will benefit you a lot.
 

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And I just realized I never answered your question. No protein supplements...just a high protein intake, and very little carbs from fruit or desserts. And, yes, I fell away from the exercise so starting this next Monday I intend to get back at it.

Best of luck to you. You seem to have a thorough understanding of how your body works. Hopefully you'll be back to normal soon.
 

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Best of luck to you. You seem to have a thorough understanding of how your body works. Hopefully you'll be back to normal soon.

When it comes to my health, I don't mess around. I want to know everything I can, so I will research several different health websites to see if I can't find a common ground between them and my doctor that make sense for me. Based on what I've read about Gout, supplemented by the opinion of my doctor, I have determined diet and exercise to start is my best approach. I'm sure I'll know at some point in the next two months if I'm on the right track or not.

Thanks for the well wishes sir! :thumbup:
 

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Sounds like a good idea. Can I use a blender in lieu of a food processor on the cauliflower?
This is how the cauliflower should be like and the way I do it to make pizza crust or bread bun.
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You very well may be the exception to that rule; doesn't change the fact that there are doctors out there collecting bonuses to prescribe certain drugs. And since I have no way of knowing one way or another which drugs doctors are paid to recommend and which drugs are being prescribed honestly, I lean against relying on drugs all together.

Part of my issue is that I have seen the dark side of modern medicine first hand. For years my sister was prescribed a barbiturate that was later found to be extremely harmful if taken for more than a few months. She now cannot work and has a whole host of medical issues as a result. She is currently involved in a lawsuit against the doctor, whom it turns out had done this to several of his patients and made quite a bit of money from the "kick backs" for prescribing it in the first place.

Perhaps he is the outlier in an otherwise benevolent industry but I seriously doubt it. I'm sure it bothers you a great deal that your word suffers as a result of the bad eggs in your field, but it is what it is. Regardless of that, I strongly believe that all options of treatment should be explored before ever considering taking a drug for the rest of your life to manage the problem. On this, my doctor agrees.

So, for now, I'll take the approach of fixing my diet. If problems persist, I may have to consider it. But from what I've read, I am on the right track. :thumbup:
If I may interject: Doc isn't treating you, and it seems highly unlikely that he stands to gain anything at all by recommending the meds.
I do understand where you're coming from, as there are certainly doctors out there who are more concerned with lining their pockets than curing patients, but I have to believe they are very few and far between...and as I said, I don't see how Do could possibly benefit from deceiving you.
 

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This is how the cauliflower should be like and the way I do it to make pizza crust or bread bun.
wIsQEil.jpg
Based on the picture provided on the website your link led to, it looks amazing. I can kinda imagine how it will turn out and with freshly picked basil, rosemary, bell peppers, tomatoes, a mix of kale and spinach leaf and jalalpenos with the occasional dollop of caprino cheese would be delicious. At least that's the plan my imagination has come up with so far. My wife is not the only one in my family that knows their way around a kitchen.
 
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If I may interject: Doc isn't treating you, and it seems highly unlikely that he stands to gain anything at all by recommending the meds.
I do understand where you're coming from, as there are certainly doctors out there who are more concerned with lining their pockets than curing patients, but I have to believe they are very few and far between...and as I said, I don't see how Do could possibly benefit from deceiving you.
I don't think he would intentionally do so either. The problem, I believe, is that doctors are being fed alot of misinformation. He may actually believe what he is saying is true, but where does he get his information about the drugs in question? It's not from an impartial observer, of that I'm certain. The actual drug company in question is the one who provides him the information about the drug in the first place. Are you going to tell me now that there is no conflict of interest there?

Doc did not go to school to learn about every drug that is on the market today. They get visits from various pharmaceutical salesmen whose job it is to sale him on the belief that what they offer helps his patients. They'll run them through all their clinical trials to prove it. Do you believe they are being completely honest when they are trying to sale a doctor on prescribing a drug? Do you believe that these pharmaceutical companies are disclosing every bad result from clinical trials? Do you believe a salesman who likely works on straight commission is acting in your best interest (the patient) or his own?

Therein is the rub. I assure you, I am not trying to be rude or disrespectful to Doc in any way. I respect the effort he put in earning his title. But his title has nothing to do with modern medicine and everything do with how the human body works. On my biology, I defer to him. But what ever info he provides me on drugs being offered today is more than likely second-hand info passed to him from a guy trying to sell him on a drug that will yield the salesman a fat commission check.

The whole system, in my opinion, is flawed. But it's not Doc's fault and I appreciate his effort here to help. It's not so much that I don't trust what he is saying as it is the fact that I can't trust the place where he got his information.
 

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Based on the picture provided on the website your link led to , it looks amazing. I can kinda imagine how it will turn out and with freshly picked basil, rosemary, bell peppers, tomatoes, a mix of kale and spinach leaf and jalalpenos with the occasional dollop of caprino cheese would be delicious. At least that's the plan my imagination has come up with so far. My wife is not the only one in my family that knows their way around a kitchen.
With time I am sure you will enjoy it. You can make no carb bread out of just eggs,cheese ,baking powder,garlic powder, and grounded oregano .
 

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Really? You can get gout that fast from a diet? And you said it lasts forever? That sucks. Sorry to hear that. Also kinda scary for anyone considering/doing diets. Keep eating crap and you're gonna die, cut out the crap and you'll get gout. You can't win anymore.

As I pointed out earlier, gout is inherited. An attack of acute gouty arthritis will likely occur following high protein ingestion, but the condition has been there all along, causing its own pathology silently. You can't eat yourself into a permanent diagnosis of gout.

If an individual can normalize uric acid levels through diet only, fine; some at baseline are worse than others.
But if the levels remain abnormal even without acute flares, then renal and joint damage will be slowly accumulating.

This is the age of information, but often that includes misinformation.
It's easy enough to queary science-based resources, and make sound, responsible decisions about your future.
 

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I don't think he would intentionally do so either. The problem, I believe, is that doctors are being fed alot of misinformation. He may actually believe what he is saying is true, but where does he get his information about the drugs in question? It's not from an impartial observer, of that I'm certain. The actual drug company in question is the one who provides him the information about the drug in the first place. Are you going to tell me now that there is no conflict of interest there?

Doc did not go to school to learn about every drug that is on the market today. They get visits from various pharmaceutical salesmen whose job it is to sale him on the belief that what they offer helps his patients. They'll run them through all their clinical trials to prove it. Do you believe they are being completely honest when they are trying to sale a doctor on prescribing a drug? Do you believe that these pharmaceutical companies are disclosing every bad result from clinical trials? Do you believe a salesman who likely works on straight commission is acting in your best interest (the patient) or his own?

Therein is the rub. I assure you, I am not trying to be rude or disrespectful to Doc in any way. I respect the effort he put in earning his title. But his title has nothing to do with modern medicine and everything do with how the human body works. On my biology, I defer to him. But what ever info he provides me on drugs being offered today is more than likely second-hand info passed to him from a guy trying to sell him on a drug that will yield the salesman a fat commission check.

The whole system, in my opinion, is flawed. But it's not Doc's fault and I appreciate his effort here to help. It's not so much that I don't trust what he is saying as it is the fact that I can't trust the place where he got his information.
I agree, Big Pharma is a shady group, to say the very least, but what you're going through seems like something a knowledgeable doctor can track accurately. From the way he speaks, it appears that there's a definite difference in before and after with this drug, not like many, where the degree of success in nominal and/or uncertain.
 

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You very well may be the exception to that rule; doesn't change the fact that there are doctors out there collecting bonuses to prescribe certain drugs. And since I have no way of knowing one way or another which drugs doctors are paid to recommend and which drugs are being prescribed honestly, I lean against relying on drugs all together.

Part of my issue is that I have seen the dark side of modern medicine first hand. For years my sister was prescribed a barbiturate that was later found to be extremely harmful if taken for more than a few months. She now cannot work and has a whole host of medical issues as a result. She is currently involved in a lawsuit against the doctor, whom it turns out had done this to several of his patients and made quite a bit of money from the "kick backs" for prescribing it in the first place.

Perhaps he is the outlier in an otherwise benevolent industry but I seriously doubt it. I'm sure it bothers you a great deal that your word suffers as a result of the bad eggs in your field, but it is what it is. Regardless of that, I strongly believe that all options of treatment should be explored before ever considering taking a drug for the rest of your life to manage the problem. On this, my doctor agrees.

So, for now, I'll take the approach of fixing my diet. If problems persist, I may have to consider it. But from what I've read, I am on the right track. :thumbup:

Yes, there are bad apples in every profession, but this one is so heavily regulated and scrutinized that any such illegal (also unethical) activity will surely be outed, and said practitioner will be forthwith separated from his license and savings. Not many would be so stupid, and the drug company would be breaking the law also, subject to fines in the billions if proven to be a habit.

This may sound like something that happens all the time, but there's really no incentive for it, and lots of disincentive.
 
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