Linehan is the real MVP

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Nope its much different. Linehan not only brought his playbook with him but also his coaching style. As you can tell Romo is much more a bus driver rather than the one leading the charge. Romo is finally listening to a real OC that knows how to calls plays. Call it a blessing.

Linehan said that he added to the Cowboys current playbook but used all of the old things as well

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multim...olution-/9293202c-c2f0-4e6c-846b-c2cb61d95294

There is a link with him talking about it.

Garrett converted the playbook to Erhardt-Perkins in 2013 and Linehan had his stuff converted too.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013...w-offensive-scheme-the-erhardt-perkins-system

There is a link talking about that. It's very much a group effort.

Oh and Cowboys this year are 7th in least amount of penalties.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/penalties-per-game

But hey why bother with facts when you can make up crap that conveniently fits your fantasyland.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Here's the grapevine.

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...was-teams-offensive-coordinator-in-2013.html/

that says OC not play caller. From your article:

Callahan was given the play-calling duty last off-season.

You really want to continue with this?

 

[ConstantReboot]

Linehan said that he added to the Cowboys current playbook but used all of the old things as well

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multim...olution-/9293202c-c2f0-4e6c-846b-c2cb61d95294

There is a link with him talking about it.

Garrett converted the playbook to Erhardt-Perkins in 2013 and Linehan had his stuff converted too.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013...w-offensive-scheme-the-erhardt-perkins-system

There is a link talking about that. It's very much a group effort.

Oh and Cowboys this year are 7th in least amount of penalties.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/penalties-per-game

But hey why bother with facts when you can make up crap that conveniently fits your fantasyland.

Linehan said that he added to the Cowboys current playbook but used all of the old things as well

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multim...olution-/9293202c-c2f0-4e6c-846b-c2cb61d95294

There is a link with him talking about it.

Garrett converted the playbook to Erhardt-Perkins in 2013 and Linehan had his stuff converted too.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013...w-offensive-scheme-the-erhardt-perkins-system

There is a link talking about that. It's very much a group effort.

Oh and Cowboys this year are 7th in least amount of penalties.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/penalties-per-game

But hey why bother with facts when you can make up crap that conveniently fits your fantasyland.

Of course its a team effort. Like I mentioned Linehan was the one that made the pieces to the puzzle fit together. We already had the pieces in place to begin with.

As for as the playbook, an announcer asked if he changed about 35% of the playbook and if that was true or not. Linehan said that he has only shown 10% of the playbook so far which seems to indicate that Linehan does have his own playbook which adds to Garrett's playbook. Yes I read those articles you linked so I know both Garrett and Linehan's playbook and philosophy are similar.

I'm giving Linehan more credit here for righting a ship on offense. There is nothing wrong with that and as Cowboy fans we should feel all feel fortunate that we have a legit playcaller on the team.

 

[ConstantReboot]

that says OC not play caller. From your article:



You really want to continue with this?

that says OC not play caller. From your article:



You really want to continue with this?

Maybe you should read the entire article first before assuming that Callahan called ALL the plays last year. I could care less who called it since it a moot point really since Linehan is the primary playcaller now.

 

[Bleu Star]

Is it not the same playbook?

Let's assume that it is. The major difference here is the level of preparation and the execution. Both variables can make a play look and feel vastly different. These guys are dialed in on offense and that's pure coaching.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Let's assume that it is. The major difference here is the level of preparation and the execution. Both variables can make a play look and feel vastly different. These guys are dialed in on offense and that's pure coaching.

Oh I agree 100% with you on that. I just disagree that Linehan deserves sole credit for it.

I give Marinelli credit for the defense. He is making mountains out of molehills.

I don't see anything wrong to giving credit to where its due. I wouldn't call it insane. I would call it fact. Even the announcers during the Saints game was gushing over Linehan. In fact, I think it doesn't take away from Garrett. It actually makes him look good standing next to Linehan. The announcers even mentioned that they make an awesome team.

Having Linehan, and even Marinelli as our OC and DC makes Dallas a much, much more credible team. If I was Garrett I would be lobbying Jerry hard to make sure they both get paid big bucks and stay in Dallas for a long time to come.

Its almost like you have a agenda here lol. You'll give everyone credit but the head coach lol. The same head coach ya'll gave blame too last season gets NO credit this year lol.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Oh I agree 100% with you on that. I just disagree that Linehan deserves sole credit for it.

Its almost like you have a agenda here lol. You'll give everyone credit but the head coach lol. The same head coach ya'll gave blame too last season gets NO credit this year lol.

If you think about it, YOU also seem to be an agenda as well.

Your trying to give credit to a head coach that was part of the problem all along and was never the solution as a playcaller and a headcoach all these years. There is a reason why we hired Linehan and that was because Garrett was a terrible playcaller and didn't know how to call plays. Thus Linehan took those duties away from him and has done wonders for our offense.

I give blame for him not calling the right plays at the right time. See Green Bay and Detroit game last year. Now if he did make the right calls do you think I;d be here blaming him for making the right calls?

I'm giving credit to where its due. I don't hate Garrett. I hate his playcalling. Its terrible. I also thought he didn't deserve to be promoted to coach since he hardly had any coaching experience. If anything, I would give more credit to Jerry for demoting him which set the stage for Linehan to be here. I'm just giving credit to where its due.

 

[Redball Express]

I remember when he became our OC in the offseason. The opinions were mixed. Granted, the season is only one quarter of the way through. Yet still, there is a focus, a preparation, a level of prepared confidence that hasn't been realized on the offensive side of the ball for several years. You could see it we early on in the first two weeks when Romo would make some of his rust attributed mistakes. Linehan was right there next to him on the bench teaching. Nurturing.. In a very deliberate fashion. He's a true no nonsense guy and his level of care has really settled our offense into a nice groove.

The element of surprise is there because play action now works. It's amazing what can happen when you truly commit to running the football. Oh you're going to put 8 in the box? Ok. Well chomp on this... This offense has developed a bit of a personality or dare I say "identity" under his tutelage. I can remember the cries of recent years.

This offense has no guts.
This offense has no identity.
They Will toss inoffensive game plan out at the first hint of adversity.
They lack preparation.
Etc etc.

All of that has become a distant memory and I thank Linehan for colonialists to provide a level of comfort that is required to sustain a grueling season.

Hmm..

I'd hold the accolades.

These guys really have a track record of playing down to their opposition over the long run.

I've seen this all before.

 

[Bleu Star]

Hmm..

I'd hold the accolades.

These guys really have a track record of playing down to their opposition over the long run.

I've seen this all before.

I'm going to need you to exhibit an iota of confidence.

 

[CyberB0b]

But hey why bother with facts when you can make up crap that conveniently fits your fantasyland.

Well yeah, because a random named birddog26 is a reliable source of information. A true insider.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well yeah, because a random named birddog26 is a reliable source of information. A true insider.

He's been vouched for by the BTB crew and is followed by numerous DFW media members. He works for a scouting service but also happens to be a Cowboys fan.

Look at his 1k+ twitter followers. They include Mike Sando, David Smoak, David Helman, Rowen Kavner, Jon Machota, Rainer Sabin, Dane Brugler, and Carlos Mendez. Maybe he has them all hoodwinked or maybe he is who he says he is.

We did in fact change to the E-P system. You can see for yourself by listening to the audibles.

 

[rcaldw]

This head coach deserves a ton of credit and anyone who denies it has an agenda plain and simple. He has stuck to the overarching plan, making adjustments along the way, and its paying off. It is really pitiful and silly to see the people trying their very best to avoid the obvious. Garrett is doing a good job.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Though the agenda driven stupidity and rationalization still runs rampant in these threads it is nice that we can argue about the positives and not the negatives.

 

[ConstantReboot]

This head coach deserves a ton of credit and anyone who denies it has an agenda plain and simple. He has stuck to the overarching plan, making adjustments along the way, and its paying off. It is really pitiful and silly to see the people trying their very best to avoid the obvious. Garrett is doing a good job.

Or we can point out there is a group of people that would like to revise history to make it as though Garrett had full control and is running the show. He hasn't. Its been Jerry all along. Just like what everyone has been saying including the same folks that have supported Garrett thru thick and thin. Sure I'll give him credit if its due. But in the meantime the best contribution that Garrett can make to the team is let his assistants take care of everything and be the official butt slapper when to his players when we make a TD.

 

[Bleu Star]

This head coach deserves a ton of credit and anyone who denies it has an agenda plain and simple. He has stuck to the overarching plan, making adjustments along the way, and its paying off. It is really pitiful and silly to see the people trying their very best to avoid the obvious. Garrett is doing a good job.

Sorry. Does not compute.

 

[Idgit]

This head coach deserves a ton of credit and anyone who denies it has an agenda plain and simple. He has stuck to the overarching plan, making adjustments along the way, and its paying off. It is really pitiful and silly to see the people trying their very best to avoid the obvious. Garrett is doing a good job.

I agree. Well, maybe not 'pitiful,' but it is a bit painful to watch some of the contortions. The nice thing is, all the team has to do is keep winning. At some point, the fact that it's his systems, his staff, the players he's involved with selecting and developing and working to bring in here is going to have to add up to some grudging credit. Or, he won't get extended and we can move on to complaining about the next guy and how good we had it under Jason they way things have shifted for Wade and Sean Payton and Mike Zimmer once they're in the rear view mirror. And it will be Jerry who's suddenly back to being an idiot again.

 

[Bleu Star]

I agree. Well, maybe not 'pitiful,' but it is a bit painful to watch some of the contortions. The nice thing is, all the team has to do is keep winning. At some point, the fact that it's his systems, his staff, the players he's involved with selecting and developing and working to bring in here is going to have to add up to some grudging credit. Or, he won't get extended and we can move on to complaining about the next guy and how good we had it under Jason they way things have shifted for Wade and Sean Payton and Mike Zimmer once they're in the rear view mirror. And it will be Jerry who's suddenly back to being an idiot again.

I said earlier that I would be all for extending red if the Cowboys win today and also beat Seattle (which the are fully capable of doing). I'm not looking ahead... Just saying. In terms of extension, the talks are welcomed to begin after we beat Seattle. Back to the basic premise of this thread.. It was meant to give credit where it is clearly due. Linehan has been a difference maker with largely the same tools both Garrett and Callahan have had at their disposal. I have harped on lack of situational awareness and preparation as the cornerstones of our perpetual disappointment in key times over the last several years. Vanilla game prep is gone. Linehan has these guys on offense preparing unique gameplay to exploit weaknesses in opposing defenses.

Marinelli's also deserves a heap of accolades for his role in bringing what we initially thought to be a major question mark together into a respectable defense.

There are no contortions here. Garret deserve lesser credit but he is head coach so by default he shoulders some credit. He is where many of us always thought he should be... Out of the mix of the offensive coordination duties and in more of an overarching strategic position where he can be a much loved "player coach" and not affect the overall offensive plan in any way. Works for me...

 

[Idgit]

I said earlier that I would be all for extending red if the Cowboys win today and also beat Seattle (which the are fully capable of doing). I'm not looking ahead... Just saying. In terms of extension, the talks are welcomed to begin after we beat Seattle. Back to the basic premise of this thread.. It was meant to give credit where it is clearly due. Linehan has been a difference maker with largely the same tools both Garrett and Callahan have had at their disposal. I have harped on lack of situational awareness and preparation as the cornerstones of our perpetual disappointment in key times over the last several years. Vanilla game prep is gone. Linehan has these guys on offense preparing unique gameplay to exploit weaknesses in opposing defenses.

Marinelli's also deserves a heap of accolades for his role in bringing what we initially thought to be a major question mark together into a respectable defense.

There are no contortions here. Garret deserve lesser credit but he is head coach so by default he shoulders some credit. He is where many of us always thought he should be... Out of the mix of the offensive coordination duties and in more of an overarching strategic position where he can be a much loved "player coach" and not affect the overall offensive plan in any way. Works for me...

There are ridiculous contortions here, but, as I said, keep winning, and sooner or later they'll have to stop. So let's hope that happens.

Linehan, as I think everyone believes at this point, deserves kudos. Even if the team's not really more productive offensively in terms of point/drive (which is the most reasonable of the obvious statistics to look at when evaluating the productivity of the offense), there's little doubt that he's made his stamp on the team, and that it's fun to watch.

But Garrett hired Linehan, because Garrett had experience with him and because they share an offensive philosophy. Garrett hired him because he wasn't happy with the options he had last year and wanted something else. This guy's been around the league for years (Dolphins, Vikings, Rams, Lions). He's more successful here because he's got the personnel to be more successful. If you believe anything else, you're fooling yourself.

Just like you're fooling yourself if you think Jason Garrett's out of the mix offensively. If you think he doesn't 'affect the overall offensive plan in any way,' well, you're deluded. I don't mean that in an insulting way. I just mean that you're suffering from a delusion of you believe that. Jason's very much involved in all aspects of this team, especially the offense. You just need to listen to what the players have to say when they're interviewed about game preparations to know that's the case. Or to be paying attention to how the team's been put together over the last several years. Remember, there are some of us who aren't actually surprised by how well the team's been playing offensively because we've believed in what this head coach has been doing all along. You shouldn't be shocked to find out that we don't think the current production is entirely the result of adding a journeyman OC prior to the season.

 

[Bleu Star]

There are ridiculous contortions here, but, as I said, keep winning, and sooner or later they'll have to stop. So let's hope that happens.

Linehan, as I think everyone believes at this point, deserves kudos. Even if the team's not really more productive offensively in terms of point/drive (which is the most reasonable of the obvious statistics to look at when evaluating the productivity of the offense), there's little doubt that he's made his stamp on the team, and that it's fun to watch.

But Garrett hired Linehan, because Garrett had experience with him and because they share an offensive philosophy. Garrett hired him because he wasn't happy with the options he had last year and wanted something else. This guy's been around the league for years (Dolphins, Vikings, Rams, Lions). He's more successful here because he's got the personnel to be more successful. If you believe anything else, you're fooling yourself.

Just like you're fooling yourself if you think Jason Garrett's out of the mix offensively. If you think he doesn't 'affect the overall offensive plan in any way,' well, you're deluded. I don't mean that in an insulting way. I just mean that you're suffering from a delusion of you believe that. Jason's very much involved in all aspects of this team, especially the offense. You just need to listen to what the players have to say when they're interviewed about game preparations to know that's the case. Or to be paying attention to how the team's been put together over the last several years. Remember, there are some of us who aren't actually surprised by how well the team's been playing offensively because we've believed in what this head coach has been doing all along. You shouldn't be shocked to find out that we don't think the current production is entirely the result of adding a journeyman OC prior to the season.

I firmly believe Garrett is out of the mix offensively and will not believe anything to the contrary unless it comes from Jerry or Scott.

 

[Bleu Star]

I'm also not shocked that there's a nice contingent of Garrett worshipers that believe he has some mystical overarching credit for us suddenly playing to our potential. We never did it for the past several years under his "control" and I and not at liberty to ever believe he shoulders some form of major credit for our early success this year. On offense that Linehan. On Defense it's Marinelli. I, personally, don't care what the Garrett worshipers contrive as their reality.