Little update on what Dallas has Awuzie doing

[SportsGuru80]

Why are people complaining about his versatility? It only helps the team!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

LOL.

As always, Fuzzy is incapable of admitting he was wrong.

And you can still be a competent CB with a suspect pass rush. Carroll was not.

Wrong about what? That Carroll doesn't stink?

You showed stuff where people wanted him to blitz more because the pass rush was terrible. What's amusing is that you completely lost sight of what we were arguing fixating on a point of fact.

Even if I grant that Schwarz doesn't blitz -which I don't- I still have a) that it is a man scheme which Carroll struggles at and b) thanks to you we also know that the Eagles pass rush was terrible.

And you want me to admit that I was wrong? Introspection Syd. Introspection.

The league already rigged the rules in receivers favor and compounding the matter is the refs allow receivers to push, pull, etc at the top of the route and downfield to a much greater degree than the latitude they give DBs.

It's also literally the difference between a competent QB rushing progressions versus getting off the field, and it gives bad QBs a chance they otherwise would not have to read the field that they typically struggle with.

So no, if you are repeatedly asking your corners to cover for 5+ seconds they are going to struggle. That just how it is.

Frankly after watching our DBs for the past half dozen years or so I find it amusing that you think you can bandy that trash around.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Versatility????

Good one....

When guys start blowing assignments because they don't know where they are supposed to be in our new zone defensive scheme...I'll check back w/ ya.

It only takes one dude to blow it for the whole team...Byron Jones being that bobblehead last year....And now you want to turn our new DBs into bobbleheads too..oh brother.

Here..have a souvenir

Yes Versatility is a valuable asset in all walks of life... And that includes football. I know because players are routinely drafted because of it. And the players who excel at it are of tremendous value.

Somehow you think having smart kid like Awuzie learn many positions makes him more likely to blow an errand. I think it makes him less likely to do so. I'm glad I stand on the side of coaches and general managers all across football.

 

[WTtoolman]

If Dallas does host the draft this year, you can guarantee an Eagles alum will try something similar. My bet is they will send out Brain Dawkins. I'll be bringing tomatos to the draft lol

"The one time Super Bowl participant...."

 

[Sydla]

Wrong about what? That Carroll doesn't stink?

You showed stuff where people wanted him to blitz more because the pass rush was terrible. What's amusing is that you completely lost sight of what we were arguing fixating on a point of fact.

Even if I grant that Schwarz doesn't blitz -which I don't- I still have a) that it is a man scheme which Carroll struggles at and b) thanks to you we also know that the Eagles pass rush was terrible.

And you want me to admit that I was wrong? Introspection Syd. Introspection.

The league already rigged the rules in receivers favor and compounding the matter is the refs allow receivers to push, pull, etc at the top of the route and downfield to a much greater degree than the latitude they give DBs.

It's also literally the difference between a competent QB rushing progressions versus getting off the field, and it gives bad QBs a chance they otherwise would not have to read the field that they typically struggle with.

So no, if you are repeatedly asking your corners to cover for 5+ seconds they are going to struggle. That just how it is.

Frankly after watching our DBs for the past half dozen years or so I find it amusing that you think you can bandy that trash around.

You are wrong that Schwartz is a heavy blitz type DC. He is not. He's a big front four pressure guy using stunts and wide 9 principals.

To continue to deny that just shows how massive your ego must be. Even in the face of evidence suggesting you are wrong you still can't admit it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You are wrong that Schwartz is a heavy blitz type DC. He is not. He's a big front four pressure guy using stunts and wide 9 principals.

To continue to deny that just shows how massive your ego must be. Even in the face of evidence suggesting you are wrong you still can't admit it.

I'm still waiting for NFL blitz percentages which is what you were making claims on. I know you are desperate to win a point of fact but until you have done that you have proven nothing for all your want. Showing reporters wanting him to blitz more doesn't accomplish that unfortunately for you.

Schwarz's scheme put him in a position to fail. That is my overarching point. That is the forest, treeboy.

As for "not being able to admit" you ignore my other several points and grandstand on this one point of fact as if it was a trump card that wins the argument. Nevertheless, I argued the point and I discussed its importance in the overall.

You cannot even bring yourself to acknowledge those points so don't talk to me about being pigheaded.

 

[dallasdave]

I got goose bumps

 

[dallasdave]

Awuzie was my pet cat in the secondary crop this year. He was the one that I had targeted as my favorite pick for the Cowboys.
He has all the great qualities that you look for in a cornerback. His past performances playing for Colorado were terrific.

New blood at CB

 

[xwalker]

Wrong about what? That Carroll doesn't stink?

You showed stuff where people wanted him to blitz more because the pass rush was terrible. What's amusing is that you completely lost sight of what we were arguing fixating on a point of fact.

Even if I grant that Schwarz doesn't blitz -which I don't- I still have a) that it is a man scheme which Carroll struggles at and b) thanks to you we also know that the Eagles pass rush was terrible.

And you want me to admit that I was wrong? Introspection Syd. Introspection.

The league already rigged the rules in receivers favor and compounding the matter is the refs allow receivers to push, pull, etc at the top of the route and downfield to a much greater degree than the latitude they give DBs.

It's also literally the difference between a competent QB rushing progressions versus getting off the field, and it gives bad QBs a chance they otherwise would not have to read the field that they typically struggle with.

So no, if you are repeatedly asking your corners to cover for 5+ seconds they are going to struggle. That just how it is.

Frankly after watching our DBs for the past half dozen years or so I find it amusing that you think you can bandy that trash around.

You are wrong that Schwartz is a heavy blitz type DC. He is not. He's a big front four pressure guy using stunts and wide 9 principals.

To continue to deny that just shows how massive your ego must be. Even in the face of evidence suggesting you are wrong you still can't admit it.

Review 1 game and see exactly what Carroll did and how much Swartz blitzed.

Make it week 3 of 2016 against the Steelers.

 

[Sydla]

Review 1 game and see exactly what Carroll did and how much Swartz blitzed.

Make it week 3 of 2016 against the Steelers.

Actually they didn't do a lot of blitzing in the Steelers game either. They played more zone and wanted Antonio Brown to catch a lot of underneath stuff instead of allowing the Steelers to push the ball down the field. He had like 7 catches for only 70 yards or so.

The game you might be thinking of was the Falcons game later in the year. They blitzed the Falcons a lot that game. But it doesn't change the fact that Schwartz has never been a blitz heavy coordinator and the Eagles did not blitz a lot last year. Sure, maybe a game here or there they blitzed more than normal (they also blitzed more in the Vikings games) but overall Schwartz is not a heavy blitzing style DC.

Here's an article from mid-year last year where through 5-6 games (which would include the Steelers game) the Eagles were dead last in blitz percentage.

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2016/10/eagles_have_blitzed_less_often_than_any_nfl_team.html

Also cherry picking one game or two to make it seem like a player is better than he is silly. Using that logic, based on the Steelers game, Carson Wentz should be talked about in the same breath as Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, etc.

 

[Sydla]

I'm still waiting for NFL blitz percentages which is what you were making claims on. I know you are desperate to win a point of fact but until you have done that you have proven nothing for all your want. Showing reporters wanting him to blitz more doesn't accomplish that unfortunately for you.

Schwarz's scheme put him in a position to fail. That is my overarching point. That is the forest, treeboy.

As for "not being able to admit" you ignore my other several points and grandstand on this one point of fact as if it was a trump card that wins the argument. Nevertheless, I argued the point and I discussed its importance in the overall.

You cannot even bring yourself to acknowledge those points so don't talk to me about being pigheaded.

First, there was more than one article asking to blitz more. There was an article from the Eagles own website analyzing Schwartz's defenses and how he's never been a heavy blitz guy.

And I didn't ignore your other points. But what's the point of having a debate if you can't admit something that you clearly are wrong about?

You believed Schwartz's blitz heavy scheme hurt Carroll. Problem is Schwartz doesn't run a blitz heavy scheme. So part of your underlying premise was wrong. So if you can't even start there and admit that you were wrong on that point, then what's the point of continuing this discussion?

 

[waving monkey]

You might wanna go back and watch that Green Bay playoff loss again....Jones was targeted a lot...and was giving up huge plays....The guy is teetering on being a bust.

floaty are you just a troll? is that all?

 

[Sydla]

xwalker, I was wrong above. Can't edit the post. Brown had 12 catches for 140 yards that Eagles game. My bad.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

First, there was more than one article asking to blitz more. There was an article from the Eagles own website analyzing Schwartz's defenses and how he's never been a heavy blitz guy.

And I didn't ignore your other points. But what's the point of having a debate if you can't admit something that you clearly are wrong about?

You believed Schwartz's blitz heavy scheme hurt Carroll. Problem is Schwartz doesn't run a blitz heavy scheme. So part of your underlying premise was wrong. So if you can't even start there and admit that you were wrong on that point, then what's the point of continuing this discussion?

Still waiting for the league rankings in blitzing. How about you quote the portion of the article instead of asserting that you are correct? All I see are articles of Eagles fans and reporters asking for more blitz. Given their past DC like Johnson and the nature of relativity I don't see that as compelling. No one blitzed more than Johnson.

Nice to see how you still act as if you have a trump card. You have yet to address the man to man scheme or the lack of pass rush nor have you explained how if you are correct that the lack of blitzing mitigates those issues.

And don't tell me what I believe. I believe that the scheme change hurt most of all. The increase in blitzing and man to man calls combined with the poor pass rush put Carroll in an untenable position and his play dropped. You also like to gloss over his performance the previous two years.

I don't like to dumb complicated concepts like a DCs overall scheme into one issue. That you would put that on me tells me you do not know me at all. Speak for yourself.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

This is a classic tactic by fuzzy that's enacted for no other reason but save face and empty posturing to make it seem like you're not answering his questions when in fact you really are. Rinse. Repeat.

"According to ESPN Stats and Information, the Eagles have the lowest blitz percentage of any team in the NFL, with Schwartz calling for a blitz on just 14 percent of snaps through the first five games. Not surprisingly, the Eagles have generated pressure on just 28.5 percent of defensive plays."

Those are the blitz percentages provided in the article he's supposedly waiting on. Lool, smh.

 

[Sydla]

Still waiting for the league rankings in blitzing. How about you quote the portion of the article instead of asserting that you are correct? All I see are articles of Eagles fans and reporters asking for more blitz. Given their past DC like Johnson and the nature of relativity I don't see that as compelling. No one blitzed more than Johnson.

Nice to see how you still act as if you have a trump card. You have yet to address the man to man scheme or the lack of pass rush nor have you explained how if you are correct that the lack of blitzing mitigates those issues.

And don't tell me what I believe. I believe that the scheme change hurt most of all. The increase in blitzing and man to man calls combined with the poor pass rush put Carroll in an untenable position and his play dropped. You also like to gloss over his performance the previous two years.

I don't like to dumb complicated concepts like a DCs overall scheme into one issue. That you would put that on me tells me you do not know me at all. Speak for yourself.

The article from the Eagles website linked doesn't saying anything about them wanting him to blitz more. The first subject in the article analyzing his defense is titled "Calling Card #1: Attack with a 4 man rush" and if you read the section it talks about how he attacks the LOS with his DL (not his LBs in blitzes).

The NJ.com article linked says in the first two paragraphs that Schwarz has never been a big blitz guy and in fact, through 5 games in 2016, they were dead last in blitz percentage (which shouldn't surprise anyone).

 

[Sydla]

Here you go with more evidence............

Here is PFF's blitz percentage for 2014, the last year Schwartz was a DC before heading to Philly in 2016.

In 2014, the Bills were 28th in the league in blitz percentage under Schwartz. This chart also shows 2013 rankings. In 2013, Schwartz was head coach of Detroit and they ran his defensive scheme. In 2013, the Lions were 31st in blitz percentage. Throw in the stat above that through 5-6 games in 2016, the Eagles were dead last in the league in blitz percentage and the fact that most analyses you can find of his defense states he does not blitz a lot, there would seem to be more than enough evidence to state that Schwartz is not a blitz heavy DC.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/sig-stats-team-blitzing/

And Johnson hasn't been the DC in Philly for years. The last DC was Billy Davis, who under Chip Kelly, based on the chart, blitzed more than Schwartz did in 2013 and 2014.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Here you go with more evidence............

Here is PFF's blitz percentage for 2014, the last year Schwartz was a DC before heading to Philly in 2016.

In 2014, the Bills were 28th in the league in blitz percentage under Schwartz. This chart also shows 2013 rankings. In 2013, Schwartz was head coach of Detroit and they ran his defensive scheme. In 2013, the Lions were 31st in blitz percentage. Throw in the stat above that through 5-6 games in 2016, the Eagles were dead last in the league in blitz percentage and the fact that most analyses you can find of his defense states he does not blitz a lot, there would seem to be more than enough evidence to state that Schwartz is not a blitz heavy DC.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/sig-stats-team-blitzing/

And Johnson hasn't been the DC in Philly for years. The last DC was Billy Davis, who under Chip Kelly, based on the chart, blitzed more than Schwartz did in 2013 and 2014.

Did Carroll play for the Bills in 2014?

And you still have not posted the rankings nor have you addressed the weak pass rush nor the man to man scheme nor how your assertion changes the overall point.

I get tired of repeating myself in both my arguments and my rebuttals to your blithe argument.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This is a classic tactic by fuzzy that's enacted for no other reason but save face and empty posturing to make it seem like you're not answering his questions when in fact you really are. Rinse. Repeat.

"According to ESPN Stats and Information, the Eagles have the lowest blitz percentage of any team in the NFL, with Schwartz calling for a blitz on just 14 percent of snaps through the first five games. Not surprisingly, the Eagles have generated pressure on just 28.5 percent of defensive plays."

Those are the blitz percentages provided in the article he's supposedly waiting on. Lool, smh.

That article was from when exactly?

And that has not been quoted either. I am not going to make his arguments for him. But by all means argue with me and see if you can control yourself this time. It sounds like fun to me.

 

[Sydla]

Did Carroll play for the Bills in 2014?

And you still have not posted the rankings nor have you addressed the weak pass rush nor the man to man scheme nor how your assertion changes the overall point.

I get tired of repeating myself in both my arguments and my rebuttals to your blithe argument.

You stated Schwartz's scheme was blitz heavy man scheme. I can go back and find the exact quote, if you want. That's partly false - he likes to play man but he doesn't blitz a lot at all. You asked for proof. I gave it to you. You asked for rankings. I just linked to an article that shows the Bills, under Schwartz, were 27th in blitz percentage and the year before, his Lions were 31st. Through 5 games last year, the Eagles, under his guidance, were dead last in the NFL in blitz percentage per an article linked in this thread.

I also linked to other articles that are analyses of his scheme and philosophies and they all say the same thing - Schwartz is a guy who does not blitz a lot. He prefers to generate pressure with his front 4, using stunts, wide-nine principals, etc.

So until you can admit that you were wrong that Schwartz is a blitzing style DC, there's no point in trying to debate you. One of your most important premises here - that Carroll suffered from Schwartz blitzing a lot - is false and you can't even admit that.