Little update on what Dallas has Awuzie doing

Sydla

Well-Known Member
Messages
61,731
Reaction score
95,252
I've seen Swartz run a high risk scheme to get pressure regardless of how much he blitzed.

For instance he would allow his DLine to abandon run contain in favor of pass rushing. He would over load sides which also makes them vulnerable. He would use a wide split of both DEs and DTs. Zone blitzes don't show up in the stats as blitzes, but do make coverage weaker in favor of pass rush pressure.

Also, do you have the numbers on number of blitzers when he did blitz? I recall him going with multiple blitzers when he blitzed. What's higher risk, 15 one man blitzes or 5 three man blitzes?

Of course he runs an attacking style of defense. But he does that with DL mostly - multiple stunts, splitting DEs extra wide, etc. He wants his DL attacking gaps, not playing read and react.

He's not a big zone blitzer either.

His philosophy is somewhat similar to Marinelli in that they both prefer to drop 7 guys in coverage and get to the QB with their DLs. Doesn't mean they will never blitz but Schwarz simply doesn't blitz a lot whether that be one guy or three extra guys.

I don't know how many analyses from various sources I have to bring here for you guys to get this.
 

CalPolyTechnique

Well-Known Member
Messages
27,686
Reaction score
44,617
If you can't admit you were clearly wrong on Schwartz's blitz philosophy despite copious amounts of evidence what chance is there of you admitting you were wrong in other areas of this debate? What chance is there of you saying to yourself, "You know, maybe I might be wrong here."

The fact you can't see that is hilarious.

I will gladly answer your questions when you admit one of your premises was false.

Oh he can see it.
He'll just never admit to it.
 
Last edited:

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
57,202
Reaction score
64,711
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Of course he runs an attacking style of defense. But he does that with DL mostly - multiple stunts, splitting DEs extra wide, etc. He wants his DL attacking gaps, not playing read and react.

He's not a big zone blitzer either.

His philosophy is somewhat similar to Marinelli in that they both prefer to drop 7 guys in coverage and get to the QB with their DLs. Doesn't mean they will never blitz but Schwarz simply doesn't blitz a lot whether that be one guy or three extra guys.

I don't know how many analyses from various sources I have to bring here for you guys to get this.

I'm not the one that said he blitzed often.

I've seen him do some high risk things in coverage also. CB up on WR with no Safety help. That"s normally a situation where the CB plays off.
 

FuzzyLumpkins

The Boognish
Messages
36,574
Reaction score
27,859
Open the link genius.

Pulling the virtual blanket over your eyes to hide from the given evidence doesn't somehow equate to not being provided the evidence.

I'd like to say educating you is fun but it's rather droll.

It was a rhetorical question. Do you need me to hold your hand and explain what should be self evident? For someone who acts so self-important you sure are slow on the uptake.

And I am not going to make his arguments for him. I have better things to do than read 4 articles in the hopes of proving his argument for him.

And the disconnect is because while he doesn't send 5+ all that often he does run stunts, twists and zone blitzes constantly as well as single high looks which all puts additional pressure on the secondary.
 

ConstantReboot

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,405
Reaction score
10,074
I still think he ends up as a starting safety alongside Jones. At corner, we've got Scandrick, Carroll, Brown and Lewis.

At corner, we have much bigger question marks, especially if Heath can't handle playing a bigger role.

I would hate for us to have Carroll as a starter. He is nothing more than a serviceable backup.

Brown and Awuzie should be our starters game day. I'm hoping.
 

Frozen700

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,512
Reaction score
6,476
I hope they keep him at CB. They yo yo'd Jones in rookie year and I hope they don't do the same thing with Jones.

I think Heath will be as competent as Church at S.

My fear is that Marinelli has basically penciled in Carroll at one of the CB spots simply because he's a veteran.

That's the mentality we need to cut out. I pray bum *** Carroll is not penciled in
 

Frozen700

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,512
Reaction score
6,476
Giving Chidobe the "Jones treatment" has good and bad aspects to it. I like position flex but we already have enough guys that can play safety and CB. I think they need to commit Jones and Chidobe as the starting safeties and let the rest work itself out at TC.

Agreed.....

Lewis and Brown start outside, with O scan as slot
 

gimmesix

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
Messages
40,036
Reaction score
37,194
I would hate for us to have Carroll as a starter. He is nothing more than a serviceable backup.

Brown and Awuzie should be our starters game day. I'm hoping.

The good thing is I believe we have some decent options. Of course, we don't know if Awusie, Lewis and White will turn out to be any better than Goodrich, Larrimore and Edwards, but having players like Carroll puts us in a position where they don't have to start. Instead, the rookies have to show they are better to actually get on the field, which is the way it should be.

If Carroll is what some of you believe him to be, then it should be easy for Awusie, Lewis, Brown and Scandrick to beat him out, if they are what some of you believe them to be. I'm just glad we've got five or six options to figure it out. Usually we only have a top three and then not even serviceable backups beyond that.
 

Sydla

Well-Known Member
Messages
61,731
Reaction score
95,252
I'm not the one that said he blitzed often.

I've seen him do some high risk things in coverage also. CB up on WR with no Safety help. That"s normally a situation where the CB plays off.

He's definitely aggressive. He also uses a lot of standard coverages as well and often looks to use safety help for his CBs. He's had to get more creative last year because of issues of talent on the Eagles. They lacked a quality slot CB so they were using Malcolm Jenkins a lot in the slot which weakened their safety spot at times. FWIW, I am also not defending Schwartz as some great defensive coach here either.

I am just trying to dispel the notion that Carroll suffered last year because he was always put on an island one on one with no help because Schwartz was bringing the house constantly.

And FWIW as an aside here, I live up here in Philly so I see most of their games, read what the media reports about them, the analysis, etc. Certainly does not make me an expert but I would suspect I know a bit more about them than average Cowboys fans.
 

CalPolyTechnique

Well-Known Member
Messages
27,686
Reaction score
44,617
It was a rhetorical question. Do you need me to hold your hand and explain what should be self evident? For someone who acts so self-important you sure are slow on the uptake.

And I am not going to make his arguments for him. I have better things to do than read 4 articles in the hopes of proving his argument for him.

And the disconnect is because while he doesn't send 5+ all that often he does run stunts, twists and zone blitzes constantly as well as single high looks which all puts additional pressure on the secondary.

Cute.

A new pivot.

It was from last season so why ask it rhetorically like it was article from 15 years ago? The fact you're claiming you've got better things to do than "read 4 articles" also speaks to the fact you simply ignored the proof you asked for after it was given to you.
 

FuzzyLumpkins

The Boognish
Messages
36,574
Reaction score
27,859
Cute.

A new pivot.

It was from last season so why ask it rhetorically like it was article from 15 years ago? The fact you're claiming you've got better things to do than "read 4 articles" also speaks to the fact you simply ignored the proof you asked for after it was given to you.

I asked for the league rankings of blitzing teams. I kept asking for it repeatedly. I still have not gotten it.

What I did not ask for was for him to google up a bunch of articles that he hopes says what he wants it to and then have me read it to find the quotes that prove his argument. If you are going to try to interject then at least try to keep up.

And what pivot? In your brain? When you figured out that you had assumed the wrong temporal argument when you finally looked?

I get why you are posturing you are who you are after all but that was a pretty weak attempt at covering your miscues by pinning it on me.
 

GORICO

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,807
Reaction score
8,736
Gentlemen Gentlemen...first Carr is not a better cb than Carroll...that was a good trade-off...second no one ever thought Awuzie would last to 60...so we got a day one
starter in Chido and a near shut down corner...going along with Scandrick and Lewis and Lewis will be a shut down corner...i am giving the GORICO GAURANTEE
Dallas will have top 5 backfield in NFL...thats right top 5....you might say...how can i say such a thing?....i answer...just watch training camp and going into the season
our rushers are going to get to the QB and our backfield will shut down any passes..and our run defense will crush any runner...and our offensive scheme will put 30 points a game
 

CATCH17

1st Round Pick
Messages
67,666
Reaction score
86,211
Gentlemen Gentlemen...first Carr is not a better cb than Carroll...that was a good trade-off...second no one ever thought Awuzie would last to 60...so we got a day one
starter in Chido and a near shut down corner...going along with Scandrick and Lewis and Lewis will be a shut down corner...i am giving the GORICO GAURANTEE
Dallas will have top 5 backfield in NFL...thats right top 5....you might say...how can i say such a thing?....i answer...just watch training camp and going into the season
our rushers are going to get to the QB and our backfield will shut down any passes..and our run defense will crush any runner...and our offensive scheme will put 30 points a game

I'm not high on Carroll but supposedly his strengths fit our scheme and didn't fit so much in Philly.


Regardless I think Awuzie was a steal and once he gets some experience he'll take a starting spot.
 

GORICO

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,807
Reaction score
8,736
In principle I'd agree, though this team has a lot of safety spots they need to fill and some of these rookies will be converted. They need to decide which ones.
that cracks me up...tony just standing there and the caption reads "SLACKER"
 
Top