Looking at game again first 3 drives, Romo choked...

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Q_the_man;3243088 said:
BTW, I'm looking at game again...
First drive ball on 35 1st and 10, good protection, Romo holds ball to long instead of hanging in the pocket and stepping up he gets scared, looks lost, and fumbles....

2nd possesion ball on the 40, good protection, panicks and throws ball away.. then fumble snaps, no one touches him.....then instead of going for it on 4th and 1 we try a 50 yard FG---I know it was 48 but come on 4th and 1.....

3rd possesion, 1st and goal, 1st play wildcat, stupid...2nd and goal from the 8 shotgun formation, then 3 steps drop, panicks again, all he has to do is step up to the right had a whole passing lane, but spins left and gets sack... 3rd and goal from the 14, shotgun formation, drops back panicks again, all he had to do was step up and hit crayton over middle for TD, but Romo spins left again and throws ball away......

The only reason why I bring this up because while looking at game I saw the same thing so I just had to watch the first 3 series again because that to me was the telling point of the game to me.... 3 times in scoring position, one lousy FG...

While they were getting a little pressure it was coming from containment outside and Romo kept rolling right in to it....TO me looking at game again at least the first 3 series of the game Romo looked scared and lost...
Let's put the blame right where it belongs. The Oline, RT to be precise, did not play well from the opening whistle. Once the Vikes had a lead they didn't have to play the run. Columbo thought he was bullfighter or something. Romo got nailed and nailed again. Any QB in the league is going to start looking around when 280 lb guys are hitting you at full speed. Blame the coaches, the gameplan, whatever. THe line couldn't protect Romo.

If Free doesn't get a legit shot at RT in training camp next year it's a crime.
 

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Ok, I understand the point of this thread, so what do you want to do?? Fire Garrett, Fire Hudson Houck, and get rid of Romo who in your opinion chocked when we needed him the most. Oh lets get rid of Flo, Kosier and Gurode and lets get players to fill their spots. That should solve our problems for next year. Hahahaha....
 

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The Great Number 8;3244398 said:
The biggest problem was that they installed a game plan that was predicated on handling the Vikings front four with their 5 guys. They thought they could block them and get downfield on the corners and safeties where Austin would have lit them up. Then they quickly found out that Columbo couldn't handle Edwards and Flozelle got hurt. You can adjust to find ways to help on one side, but you can't on both. You could try to run 3 man patterns, but if you need Witten to block, a 3 man pattern with Austin getting doubled, and Crayton and Williams who struggle one on one. Even if you could get help on both sides with the backs, then you need to make sure Kevin Williams doesn't come up the middle and they had some problems with that as well.

You could try to roll Tony out, but if he goes right, then Edwards is going to be in his face because he's destroying Columbo. Since they were trying to double Allen, they might be able to try left, but then Tony has to find time to stop , set his feet or throw across his body.

Once they found out how wrong they were about blocking up front, they had nothing to go to that would have had a prayer of working. We lost the battle at every point along the line, and if you can't block, it wouldn't have mattered if Tony was on or not.


Excellent break down of why things don't work when the Offensive line doesn't do its job in any form or fashion.


Marktui;3244441 said:
In all honesty, you can never tell what the game really looks like from the angles that the tv shows. You cannot see the type of coverage that the defense is playing or what type of routes that our wr's are running. To sit there and say that Romo chocked is plain ridiculous!!

Romo cannot have a bad game?!?! That defensive line beat up our Oline all day long, they were coming off the ball with speed and quickness. They said afterwards that to beat us they could not let Romo just sit there and pick us apart. Their whole game plan was rattle and hit Romo on every play. Go watch other playoff games of other qb's, Brady, Warner, those guys were getting pressure and sacked and they are in the same boat as the Cowboys, getting ready to send their pro bowlers to play the Sunday before the Super Bowl.

That is one of my favorite things about people who think they know more about how the game went down then the folks out there. People sitting at home, in their chairs or on their couch, watching the game over and over with their DVR's or what have you, watching and re-watching plays in slow motion and such to find all the flaws they can on the angles given to them by the TV shots and then thinking that means they know more than the people who were out there with the benefit of one shot at each play, in real time, and having more more than a couple seconds to find all these things that these really smart fans found by watching the plays over and over on their DVR's.

There's a reason that there are people out there being paid to do these jobs and you folks who sit at home with your DVR's are sitting at home with your DVR's.

I think you can figure out that reason on your own. Maybe.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3244310 said:
It's always nice to see when a person has their BS pointed out, clearly, in a thread how they just don't comeback to it.

Does the heart good.
So true :D
 

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Those drives did set the tone. It could have been 10, 17, even 21 points...instead of 3.

I'm not sure if any of you noticed, but on one of Romo's 1st few passes, there was what appeared to be a late hit (but maybe just a judgement call). Anyway, he really got hammered well after getting rid of the ball and it looked like it hurt. Just wondering if they got in his head a little bit right from the 1st play or two.

As for Romo having time...uh, not really. maybe you watched the re-run in slo-mo?
 

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theogt;3243202 said:
Dude, what are you watching?

The ends collapse hard and quick from outside and force him up in the pocket, just as Gurode literally turns and watches as the DT runs by him right into Romo. Romo didn't have a second to think, much less look downfield -- he was running all over the place.

On the second possession when we had the ball at "the 40" (it was actually the 39), Barber ran up the middle for 4 yards. There was no pass. Then we had the ball at the 35. At that point, Gurode turned during his snap, causing Romo to miss the snap. Then it's 3rd and 9 and Romo throws a pass just short of a first down. This was a designed quick pass to Austin, but Witten tipped it for some reason. I think there was a miscommunication on routes.

There is no play in that set of downs where he "panicks." I'm not sure what you were looking at.

On the 2nd and goal, there was literally 1.6 seconds (I got a stop watch out) before Ray Edwards was in his face and moved him outside the pocket. As soon as he tried to roll out of the pocket he was sacked by the DT.

On the 3rd and goal (from the 10, not the 14), he had 2.0 seconds to get his pass off. He could NOT step up in the pocket because it was the inside of the pocket that was collapsing. Here the ends actually outran him, which is a good thing because it usually means there's room in the pocket. The only thing he COULD NOT do was step up. You really couldn't be more wrong.

Seriously, you need to re-watch this stuff, because either you're confused or you have no idea what you're watching.

:bow:
 

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Romo is as much to blame as everyone else on offense. He made his share of mistakes, for sure. The offensive line played terrible, and the coaching was suspect.

It takes a team effort to lose by 31 points.
 

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Q_the_man;3243088 said:
BTW, I'm looking at game again...
First drive ball on 35 1st and 10, good protection, Romo holds ball to long instead of hanging in the pocket and stepping up he gets scared, looks lost, and fumbles....

2nd possesion ball on the 40, good protection, panicks and throws ball away.. then fumble snaps, no one touches him.....then instead of going for it on 4th and 1 we try a 50 yard FG---I know it was 48 but come on 4th and 1.....

3rd possesion, 1st and goal, 1st play wildcat, stupid...2nd and goal from the 8 shotgun formation, then 3 steps drop, panicks again, all he has to do is step up to the right had a whole passing lane, but spins left and gets sack... 3rd and goal from the 14, shotgun formation, drops back panicks again, all he had to do was step up and hit crayton over middle for TD, but Romo spins left again and throws ball away......

The only reason why I bring this up because while looking at game I saw the same thing so I just had to watch the first 3 series again because that to me was the telling point of the game to me.... 3 times in scoring position, one lousy FG...

While they were getting a little pressure it was coming from containment outside and Romo kept rolling right in to it....TO me looking at game again at least the first 3 series of the game Romo looked scared and lost...

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TheSkaven;3244962 said:
Romo is as much to blame as everyone else on offense. He made his share of mistakes, for sure. The offensive line played terrible, and the coaching was suspect.

It takes a team effort to lose by 31 points.

We were simply outplayed by a better team for 3 1/2 hours. Time to move on.
 

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RESIN8;3243135 said:
Aaron Rodgers dealt with the pressure just fine. He was pressured all day and the Pack still managed to score points. While the outcome was the same, the Pack stayed competitive. I'm tired of hearing that it wasn't Romo's fault.

until of course he fumbled the ball away on the winning score
 

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Q_the_man;3243088 said:
BTW, I'm looking at game again...
First drive ball on 35 1st and 10, good protection, Romo holds ball to long instead of hanging in the pocket and stepping up he gets scared, looks lost, and fumbles....

2nd possesion ball on the 40, good protection, panicks and throws ball away.. then fumble snaps, no one touches him.....then instead of going for it on 4th and 1 we try a 50 yard FG---I know it was 48 but come on 4th and 1.....

3rd possesion, 1st and goal, 1st play wildcat, stupid...2nd and goal from the 8 shotgun formation, then 3 steps drop, panicks again, all he has to do is step up to the right had a whole passing lane, but spins left and gets sack... 3rd and goal from the 14, shotgun formation, drops back panicks again, all he had to do was step up and hit crayton over middle for TD, but Romo spins left again and throws ball away......

The only reason why I bring this up because while looking at game I saw the same thing so I just had to watch the first 3 series again because that to me was the telling point of the game to me.... 3 times in scoring position, one lousy FG...

While they were getting a little pressure it was coming from containment outside and Romo kept rolling right in to it....TO me looking at game again at least the first 3 series of the game Romo looked scared and lost...


anyone who's nick has anything to do with quincy i refuse to listen to when it comes to matters of the QB.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;3245254 said:
until of course he fumbled the ball away on the winning score
And threw an Int on his first pass of the game I believe.
 

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Jimz31;3243136 said:
We can't tell from watching on TV, but I'd like to know if the WR's were getting open. I have a feeling that they weren't.

On many occasions I noticed the WRs were blanketed :( Romo wasn't great but you don't wanting him forcing it into covered receivers either. I just think it was another one of those games where the defense has our offense completely figured out and run our routes for us.
 

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I have always cheered for Romo who came from small school, sat for a few years and learned, and then burst onto the scene in a big way. A feel good underdog story that makes everyone want to see him win.

But many have said that the Cowboys will never win the big one with Romo because "he chokes" during the big games. I didn't believe that the first few years, but now I am starting to think maybe they were right all along. He has proven the past two years that at the end of the season, when it counted the most, he has hurt this team and contributed in a big way to our embarrassing losses.

Tony does not appear to be smart enough to deal with the pressure (on and off the field). And he chokes the biggest at the end of the season...particularly in the playoffs on the road....when the pressure and stress are at the highest.
 
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