Looking Like McFadden Will Be The Starter

[CowboyRoy]

I never looked up his YPC in the second half because it doesn't matter. It makes no difference what his YPC were he routinely picked up the critical 2-4 yards that kept the chains moving keeping the offense on the field and the Cowboys defense off it.

LOL.........I see, so now all of a sudden, when it doesnt support your argument, the YPC doesnt matter.

I rest my case.

 

[KJJ]

The problem for the Cowboys is that they did about as poor a job of replacing Murray as you could possibly do. I have no doubts that Murray isnt worth the money. He might come close the first year or two, but I doubt it. Certainly not in years 3-5.

If the Cowboys had gone out and drafted a decent back in the draft or signed one in the offseason, we probably arent even having this conversation.

Jerry made up his mind if Murray declined the Cowboys offer that there wasn't another back he was willing to pay a lot of money to. He probably would have paid Peterson if it wouldn't have cost a number of premium draft picks but once you get past Murray and Peterson there wasn't another back Jerry was going to invest a lot of guaranteed money in. Mathews is a quality back be he had injury issues which is why he was available. Jerry targeted McFadden early on and decided once Murray signed with Philly he would bank on his OL. He and many others seem to think just about any back can produce behind the Cowboys OL we'll soon find out.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Randle doesn't even have the body structure of an every down back. He's a solid back up. I'd roll with McFadden getting 20 carries and give randle 5-8.

 

[KJJ]

LOL.........I see, so now all of a sudden, when it doesnt support your argument, the YPC doesnt matter.

I rest my case.

I never made an argument about his YPC pertaining to a quarter or a half. All you do is look to create arguments.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Jerry made up his mind if Murray declined the Cowboys offer that there wasn't another back he was willing to pay a lot of money to. He probably would have paid Peterson if it wouldn't have cost a number of premium draft picks but once you get past Murray and Peterson there wasn't another back Jerry was going to invest a lot of guaranteed money in. Mathews is a quality back be he had injury issues which is why he was available. Jerry targeted McFadden early on and decided once Murray signed with Philly he would bank on his OL. He and many others seem to think just about any back can produce behind the Cowboys OL we'll soon find out.

Yah, again, your use of extremes makes it hard to have a rational conversation. I havent hear many say that ANY back could come in and replace Murray. It simply hasnt been said.

Also.................I dont believe the Cowboys ever really intended to resign Murray once they found out what he was looking for. And Jerry has said many times that they werent expecting McFadden to be available.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Randle doesn't even have the body structure of an every down back. He's a solid back up. I'd roll with McFadden getting 20 carries and give randle 5-8.

First of all, McFadden cant handle that load. Randle is more suited for that. You may disagree, but I am sure we will find out. McFadden only looked good because he didnt get touched for the first 10 yards on two of those long runs. If Murray has to make something out of nothing, or make some moves, he simply isnt good at it.

But this was what the Cowboys were thinking. Huge holes for the backs so a guy like McFadden could run through them and pick up some long runs with his speed.

 

[DeaconMoss]

I think we are going to carry 4 backs to game 1. The 4th is not on the team yet and my guess would be he would be a big bruising type of runner.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I never made an argument about his YPC pertaining to a quarter or a half. All you do is look to create arguments.

Sure, whatever you say. I tell you that Randle is a complete liability and you basically tell me you agree he isnt good at it, but my use of the word "complete" isnt right. LOL

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think we are going to carry 4 backs to game 1. The 4th is not on the team yet and my guess would be he would be a big bruising type of runner.

That would be common sense thinking. But apparently the Cowboys brass hasnt been using common sense at all when it comes to our backs.

 

[KJJ]

Sure, whatever you say. I tell you that Randle is a complete liability and you basically tell me you agree he isnt good at it, but my use of the word "complete" isnt right. LOL

I didn't agree with you and I never said he wasn't good at all in pass protection. You're twisting my comments it's clear you like stirring up trouble. I'm convinced you're the same CowboyRoy from the board I use to post on.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I didn't agree with you and I never said he wasn't good at all in pass protection. It's clear you like stirring up trouble. I'm convinced you're the same CowboyRoy from the board I use to post on.

Ok, so lets try something simple:

Do you think Randle is good in pass protection?

 

[KJJ]

Ok, so lets try something simple:

Do you think Randle is good in pass protection?

I've already commented on that you're just trying to waste my time. I'm not about to spend another day exchanging 50 posts with you twisting my comments spinning that I'm agreeing with you when it's clear that we don't agree. Dude, this discussion is over!

 

[Satchel89]

McFadden looked so good. I'm trying not to get too pumped about him because we all know the history. He had some juice though. I was glad to see he has some burst. I think Randle starts but I think they split time. I feel pretty good about both of them. Dunbar is the guy that I kind of wonder about. I guess I would like to see him get some screens or spread him out as a receiver. I'm just ready to roll with who they got

 

[CowboyRoy]

I've already commented on that you're just trying to waste my time. I'm not about to spend another day exchanging 50 posts with you twisting my comments spinning that I'm agreeing with you when it's clear that we don't agree. Dude, this discussion is over!

LOL......you cant even answer a simple question. I think Randle is a liability in the pass blocking department. If you agree with that, then just keep quiet. If you dont, then just say so.

 

[Blackspider214]

Ok, so lets try something simple:

Do you think Randle is good in pass protection?

Absolutely not. He's a terrible pass protector.

 

[JDSmith]

I think Randle will find himself in a limited role again this year if he doesn't figure out the pass protection quickly. I thought the coaches should have given him more carries last year, to keep Murray from wearing down, but it's obvious that his pass protection isn't up to par and that was what prevented them from using him more last year. Because he's apparently improved it in the offseason, and he still looks dangerous IMO. He just can't be getting run over and giving up sacks like he did against the Vikings. Honestly, between Randle and Dunbar I have concerns about our RBBC. I think McFadden could easily get the lion's share of the carries because he's just a much better all around RB than either of the other two.

Honestly, I can't quite figure out how Dunbar really stays on the team. The guy gets like 2 or 3 carries per game and makes 1.5 million a year.

 

[Frozen700]

Listening to the post game show and the comments from Jerry, Broadus and others around Valley Ranch, that it's McFadden's job to lose. They just trust him more in pass protection.

How many are genuinely excited about that? To go from Murray now to McFadden, a guy who has terrible YPC over the years, only carried it 200 plus times 2 times in his 8 seasons. Can't stay healthy.

We are going from filet mignon last year to Taco Bell this year.

Which will have a big domino effect on this team.

What was so special about Murray? The way he would tackle himself? Fumble the rock?

 

[windjc]

McFadden showed he has more burst than Murray its not close. However, Murray doesnt go down early and gets more yards after contact for sure. Murray also punishes the defense. So if McFadden stays healthy it'll probably be a wash. Randle should do more of what he was already doing.

If the RBs stay healthy, I'd expect a similar year as 2014.

 

[Blackspider214]

What was so special about Murray? The way he would tackle himself? Fumble the rock?

Yeah let's point out a couple of things he did wrong (which every player in sports has faults) and completely ignore everything else he did. He led the league in rushing. He made nothing plays into something. He kept drives alive. He was a threat out of the backfield and was one of the better pass blockers in the backfield in the NFL. He was a bell cow.

But yeah, those grow on trees. I'm sure McGimp and Randle will easily just slide in that role.

But they won;t. Because they aren't even half as talented as Murray.

 

[big dog cowboy]

We are going from filet mignon last year to Taco Bell this year.

I'm sorry if you answered my question earlier. It's entirely possible I missed it in the War and Peace novel that this thread has become. As a quick refresher it was - Got something against Taco Bell?