Looking Like McFadden Will Be The Starter

[dallasdave]

“At some time it does become a little insulting,” Smith said, via the Dallas Morning News. When I think about DeMarco Murray, he has his own talent but when I was watching him run last year, and this is just me evaluating, I saw some opportunities there that was left on the football field where he could’ve had 2,500 yards, but he maximized what he had and he did the best with what he had. He had tremendous opportunities and the Cowboys."

Looks like Emmit says lots of things.
I loved Murray but now hes an Eagle, so now I hope he never gains another yard.

Moving on.

Well said, stay thirsty my friend !!!

 

[Verdict]

He had one great year, and one healthy year.

I am a huge DeMarco Murray fan, and I think he is much more talented than people give him credit for. He is very adept at moving the chains and finding a way to make something out of little or nothing. I know he has been injured and that is obviously a concern. But up until last year we really never committed to feeding him the ball. Who can say with certainty that if we had fed him the ball in prior years that he wouldn't have had similar success to the success he had last year?

I wouldn't be surprised to see him have another great year this year, just like he had last year. I would also not be surprised to see him tail off after he was somewhat overworked last year. The bottom line is no matter how much you like a player there is a point to where his salary cap number albtross outweighs the value that the player brings to the team.

Do I think that we made the right decision letting Murray walk? From a salary cap point of view it was a probably slightly better deal to let him walk than resign him for the amount of money that the Eagles commited to him. But this team would have been better with Murray than without him.

His total yardage stats in prior years do not take into account that we failed to feed him the ball. Likewise there is no statistic telling us how much of an Oakland player's performance, or lack thereof, is attributable to the sink hold called Tha Raiduuus.

 

[dallasdave]

I am a huge DeMarco Murray fan, and I think he is much more talented than people give him credit for. He is very adept at moving the chains and finding a way to make something out of little or nothing. I know he has been injured and that is obviously a concern. But up until last year we really never committed to feeding him the ball. Who can say with certainty that if we had fed him the ball in prior years that he wouldn't have had similar success to the success he had last year?

I wouldn't be surprised to see him have another great year this year, just like he had last year. I would also not be surprised to see him tail off after he was somewhat overworked last year. The bottom line is no matter how much you like a player there is a point to where his salary cap number albtross outweighs the value that the player brings to the team.

Do I think that we made the right decision letting Murray walk? From a salary cap point of view it was a probably slightly better deal to let him walk than resign him for the amount of money that the Eagles commited to him. But this team would have been better with Murray than without him.

His total yardage stats in prior years do not take into account that we failed to feed him the ball. Likewise there is no statistic telling us how much of an Oakland player's performance, or lack thereof, is attributable to the sink hold called Tha Raiduuus.

Would like to have had him on a short term contract. Don't think he will last too may more years.

 

[5Stars]

I am a huge DeMarco Murray fan, and I think he is much more talented than people give him credit for. He is very adept at moving the chains and finding a way to make something out of little or nothing. I know he has been injured and that is obviously a concern. But up until last year we really never committed to feeding him the ball. Who can say with certainty that if we had fed him the ball in prior years that he wouldn't have had similar success to the success he had last year?

I wouldn't be surprised to see him have another great year this year, just like he had last year. I would also not be surprised to see him tail off after he was somewhat overworked last year. The bottom line is no matter how much you like a player there is a point to where his salary cap number albtross outweighs the value that the player brings to the team.

Do I think that we made the right decision letting Murray walk? From a salary cap point of view it was a probably slightly better deal to let him walk than resign him for the amount of money that the Eagles commited to him. But this team would have been better with Murray than without him.

His total yardage stats in prior years do not take into account that we failed to feed him the ball. Likewise there is no statistic telling us how much of an Oakland player's performance, or lack thereof, is attributable to the sink hold called Tha Raiduuus.

Very nice post, bro! Well thought out...

 

[5Stars]

Would like to have had him on a short term contract. Don't think he will last too may more years.

It's bad that Murray left...but, he is now the eagles problem. Good luck!

 

[DFWJC]

Murray's contract was for 5 years, and averaging 8 mil per year.
People keep talking about how we could have fit him this year.

Hey, sure, the FO may have paid him that 8 mil for one year.
That's not at all the point.

How would he have declined in later years?
How would his 5 year contract have affected signing Martin, Frederick, Crawford, Lawrence, etc, etc.?

 

[Stash]

There's a number of people who've claimed McFadden is good try taking off your blinders and do some reading. One FAN was so thrilled with the McFadden signing he predicted 1700 yards from him. LOL Some still see the back he was at Arkansas and the 4th overall pick in the 2008 draft. Some have posted video highlights of him from 5-8 years ago to try and get all worked up over him. There's more than a few who liked the McFadden signing with some even trying to spin he'll be an upgrade over Murray due to his speed. Things have toned down with him now because he's had 2 hamstring issues since June one of which caused him to miss some training camp. Now he has a sore neck from only 4 carries on Saturday. There's a big tendency here by many to try and spin a negative into a positive and there's been many doing that with McFadden.

Tell me about it!

I've been through debate after debate with people trying to get everybody to buy into this clown as some sort of an answer.

 

[5Stars]

Murray's contract was for 5 years, and averaging 8 mil per year.
People keep talking about how we could have fit him this year.

Hey, sure, the FO may have paid him that 8 mil for one year.
That's not at all the point.

How would he have declined in later years?
How would his 5 year contract have affected signing Martin, Frederick, Crawford, Lawrence, etc, etc.?

Most people don't understand the financial aspects of running a football team with a set amount of money to spend each season or other years in the future. The Cowboys have been mismanaged in that aspect for the last 20 years! Well, lately, it seems that whoever is doing the math has this team on the right track for once.

The 90's Cowboys did not have a salary cap and money could buy any player they needed. Now days it seems that the the Cowboys are doing things right with their money. It looked like it paid off last season. Let's see if it pays off this season.

 

[5Stars]

Tell me about it!

I've been through debate after debate with people trying to get everybody to buy into this clown as some sort of an answer.

It has not been pretty so far! lol

I guess we just have to see him in a live game.

 

[Stash]

It has not been pretty so far! lol

I guess we just have to see him in a live game.

I'd love to, if we ever get to that point!

 

[5Stars]

I'd love to, if we ever get to that point!

Patience my friend...settle down. lol

 

[Nightman]

Murray's contract was for 5 years, and averaging 8 mil per year.
People keep talking about how we could have fit him this year.

Hey, sure, the FO may have paid him that 8 mil for one year.
That's not at all the point.

How would he have declined in later years?
How would his 5 year contract have affected signing Martin, Frederick, Crawford, Lawrence, etc, etc.?

Murray won't see 5 years in Philly, he would not have seen 5 years here.

It will be a 3 contract. For DAL if they had been aggressive it could've been 18m guaranteed plus another 3m.

But accounted for over 5 years it would be 4m+ a year on the cap or Scandrick type money.

It would have 0 effect on the OL contracts or anyone else.

 

[dallasdave]

I'd love to, if we ever get to that point!

I think he might pull a muscle in pre-game warm-up

 

[dallasdave]

“At some time it does become a little insulting,” Smith said, via the Dallas Morning News. When I think about DeMarco Murray, he has his own talent but when I was watching him run last year, and this is just me evaluating, I saw some opportunities there that was left on the football field where he could’ve had 2,500 yards, but he maximized what he had and he did the best with what he had. He had tremendous opportunities and the Cowboys."

Looks like Emmit says lots of things.
I loved Murray but now hes an Eagle, so now I hope he never gains another yard.

Moving on.

You said it that's move on and have the year to cheer, the Cowboys win the Super Bowl this year and shut up all the NFL experts !!! Six stars for six Super Bowl victories.

 

[Eddie]

hope he isn't the starter wow such a stupid move to let murray go

No, there were 42 million reasons to let Murray go.

 

[DFWJC]

Murray won't see 5 years in Philly, he would not have seen 5 years here.

It will be a 3 contract. For DAL if they had been aggressive it could've been 18m guaranteed plus another 3m.

But accounted for over 5 years it would be 4m+ a year on the cap or Scandrick type money.

It would have 0 effect on the OL contracts or anyone else.

So you're saying Murray would have accepted 19 million less on a full contract basis (yes, realizing it may not be fulfilled) and an average of 7 mil for 3 years vs 8 mil for 5?
(And also, yes, we know the guarantees are most important..if then, he got 21 mil)

We just don't know that he'd take less....and we certainly dont know what effect it would have on future contracts.
It's not an argument I want to get I to at this point. That's why I framed my post as a question instead of certainty.

Anyway, Murray is gone....so this all is now impossible.
Ideally, RB talk would be about possibilities.

 

[Alexander]

I am a huge DeMarco Murray fan, and I think he is much more talented than people give him credit for. He is very adept at moving the chains and finding a way to make something out of little or nothing. I know he has been injured and that is obviously a concern. But up until last year we really never committed to feeding him the ball. Who can say with certainty that if we had fed him the ball in prior years that he wouldn't have had similar success to the success he had last year?

I wouldn't be surprised to see him have another great year this year, just like he had last year. I would also not be surprised to see him tail off after he was somewhat overworked last year. The bottom line is no matter how much you like a player there is a point to where his salary cap number albtross outweighs the value that the player brings to the team.

Do I think that we made the right decision letting Murray walk? From a salary cap point of view it was a probably slightly better deal to let him walk than resign him for the amount of money that the Eagles commited to him. But this team would have been better with Murray than without him.

His total yardage stats in prior years do not take into account that we failed to feed him the ball. Likewise there is no statistic telling us how much of an Oakland player's performance, or lack thereof, is attributable to the sink hold called Tha Raiduuus.

Excellent post.

 

[KJJ]

Tell me about it!

I've been through debate after debate with people trying to get everybody to buy into this clown as some sort of an answer.

I've been through the same debates with many acting like McFadden is going to flourish with some even going as far as to say he's an upgrade over Murray. Some here act like those discussions don't exist. In Feb when McFadden's name came up as a possible replacement for Murray most puked at the thought but as soon as Murray departed and McFadden was signed you could almost hear the uncorking of champagne bottles by a few.

Those who were excited by the signing had to go back 5 years to find anything good about him. I'm not saying the guy sucks and as down as some of us are on him he may end up being a surprise if he can stay healthy. I'm not expecting him to stay healthy but if he can we may get more out of him than we think. That's how it works sometimes you don't expect much and end up getting more than you thought we just have to hope that's how it works out with McFadden.

 

[Nightman]

So you're saying Murray would have accepted 19 million less on a full contract basis (yes, realizing it may not be fulfilled) and an average of 7 mil for 3 years vs 8 mil for 5?
(And also, yes, we know the guarantees are most important..if then, he got 21 mil)

We just don't know that he'd take less....and we certainly dont know what effect it would have on future contracts.
It's not an argument I want to get I to at this point. That's why I framed my post as a question instead of certainty.

Anyway, Murray is gone....so this all is now impossible.
Ideally, RB talk would be about possibilities.

Just for clarity's sake, I was saying it would be a 5/37m deal with 18m guaranteed

Effectively a 3/21m deal that would be spread out over 4-5 years on the cap at 4m+ per year

 

[Stash]

I've been through the same debates with many acting like McFadden is going to flourish with some even going as far as to say he's an upgrade over Murray. Some here act like those discussions don't exist. In Feb when McFadden's name came up as a possible replacement for Murray most puked at the thought but as soon as Murray departed and McFadden was signed you could almost hear the uncorking of champagne bottles by a few.

Those who were excited by the signing had to go back 5 years to find anything good about him. I'm not saying the guy sucks and as down as some of us are on him he may end up being a surprise if he can stay healthy. I'm not expecting him to stay healthy but if he can we may get more out of him than we think. That's how it works sometimes you don't expect much and end up getting more than you thought we just have to hope that's how it works out with McFadden.

I totally agree with you. Does the guy have speed? Sure he does, and combined with this offensive line opening up huge holes, we may see several 'house calls' if things work out. But, based on the guy's lousy track record in the pros, I'm not counting on it. And I hope the team isn't either because the guy has a history of disappointing.