Looks like Wade and Bosh to Miami
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Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh committed to the Miami Heat on Wednesday, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard. So how good are the Miami Heat now? And what does this mean for LeBron? Our experts weigh in with their instant analysis.
1. Do Wade, Bosh and a supporting cast make the Heat title contenders?
Henry Abbott, TrueHoop: The two of them with Michael Beasley, Mario Chalmers and some of the cheapest players in the NBA will not get it done. However, if their pairing is powerful enough to entice players to play below market value -- LeBron James at a max contract is below market value, incidentally -- then absolutely.
The problem is that 7-foot, shot-blocking centers and truly capable point guards almost never play at below market value, so that will be Pat Riley's consuming challenge, with or without James. Bosh is not best deployed wrestling the likes of Kendrick Perkins and Dwight Howard, so the Heat still need help.
J.A. Adande, ESPN.com: Those two alone, plus small pieces, aren't enough. Bosh has never won a playoff series. That would change in Miami next year ... but the Heat won't win two playoff series.
Kevin Arnovitz, TrueHoop: Wade, an elite big man and a supporting cast were enough to win a championship in 2006, so there's a precedent. The Heat's supporting cast in 2010-11 doesn't need to consist of world-beaters, but if it can create open space for Wade and deliver Bosh the ball where he likes it, the Heat will be a very tough out in the East.
Chris Sheridan, ESPN.com: It makes them instant contenders for the Eastern Conference title, not the NBA title. Not yet, anyway. Still need a shooter and a banger. Still have to decide if Beasley is a keeper or a trade chip. Still need to see who LeBron signs with.
2. What does the Wade-Bosh decision mean for LeBron James?
Abbott: In getting to the summer of 2010, all kinds of teams made the judgment that the way to sign LeBron James was to clear the cap space to sign up two or three max free agents. That analysis was in no small part rooted in the intelligence that James wanted to play with the likes of Wade and Bosh.
In what we have heard about how the Bulls, Nets, Cavaliers, Knicks and the like have pitched James, that's what those teams still seem to believe. I have heard nothing that would make me think James isn't still hot on the idea of uniting with those players. One of the issues is what kind of offer the Heat can make these three players. The league releases cap numbers Wednesday night, and then the players can haggle over terms, but we already know there is no way all three can make max money, so there's a conversation to be had about who takes the pay cut.
Adande: This means LeBron has more legitimate options than ever. He can have the top three-man combo in the league in Miami, he can have a contending team in Chicago, he can have an All-Star duo in New York or he can stay home with the core of a team that had the best regular-season record. Miami's super-tempting, but I guess the emotional and financial incentives to stay home win out.
Arnovitz: Nothing in sports is certain, but joining Wade and Bosh in Miami would give James the best chance of winning championships in his prime. If James decides to stay in Cleveland, that would set up one of the better intra-conference rivalries in recent memory.
Sheridan: What it means for LeBron is unclear, but I would say it's safe to say we'll see some sort of "friendly" rivalry in the East for the next several years. And we should see some taunting of LBJ from Wade/Bosh each winter about how nice the weather is in Miami.
1. Do Wade, Bosh and a supporting cast make the Heat title contenders?
Henry Abbott, TrueHoop: The two of them with Michael Beasley, Mario Chalmers and some of the cheapest players in the NBA will not get it done. However, if their pairing is powerful enough to entice players to play below market value -- LeBron James at a max contract is below market value, incidentally -- then absolutely.
The problem is that 7-foot, shot-blocking centers and truly capable point guards almost never play at below market value, so that will be Pat Riley's consuming challenge, with or without James. Bosh is not best deployed wrestling the likes of Kendrick Perkins and Dwight Howard, so the Heat still need help.
J.A. Adande, ESPN.com: Those two alone, plus small pieces, aren't enough. Bosh has never won a playoff series. That would change in Miami next year ... but the Heat won't win two playoff series.
Kevin Arnovitz, TrueHoop: Wade, an elite big man and a supporting cast were enough to win a championship in 2006, so there's a precedent. The Heat's supporting cast in 2010-11 doesn't need to consist of world-beaters, but if it can create open space for Wade and deliver Bosh the ball where he likes it, the Heat will be a very tough out in the East.
Chris Sheridan, ESPN.com: It makes them instant contenders for the Eastern Conference title, not the NBA title. Not yet, anyway. Still need a shooter and a banger. Still have to decide if Beasley is a keeper or a trade chip. Still need to see who LeBron signs with.
2. What does the Wade-Bosh decision mean for LeBron James?
Abbott: In getting to the summer of 2010, all kinds of teams made the judgment that the way to sign LeBron James was to clear the cap space to sign up two or three max free agents. That analysis was in no small part rooted in the intelligence that James wanted to play with the likes of Wade and Bosh.
In what we have heard about how the Bulls, Nets, Cavaliers, Knicks and the like have pitched James, that's what those teams still seem to believe. I have heard nothing that would make me think James isn't still hot on the idea of uniting with those players. One of the issues is what kind of offer the Heat can make these three players. The league releases cap numbers Wednesday night, and then the players can haggle over terms, but we already know there is no way all three can make max money, so there's a conversation to be had about who takes the pay cut.
Adande: This means LeBron has more legitimate options than ever. He can have the top three-man combo in the league in Miami, he can have a contending team in Chicago, he can have an All-Star duo in New York or he can stay home with the core of a team that had the best regular-season record. Miami's super-tempting, but I guess the emotional and financial incentives to stay home win out.
Arnovitz: Nothing in sports is certain, but joining Wade and Bosh in Miami would give James the best chance of winning championships in his prime. If James decides to stay in Cleveland, that would set up one of the better intra-conference rivalries in recent memory.
Sheridan: What it means for LeBron is unclear, but I would say it's safe to say we'll see some sort of "friendly" rivalry in the East for the next several years. And we should see some taunting of LBJ from Wade/Bosh each winter about how nice the weather is in Miami.
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If it's about winning championships he goes to Chicago.
If it's about the money he re-signs with Cleveland.
Cleveland does not the necessary pieces to compete in the post season.
Add Lebron to Chicago's roster and they have a legit shot at making the Finals.
If it's about the money he re-signs with Cleveland.
Cleveland does not the necessary pieces to compete in the post season.
Add Lebron to Chicago's roster and they have a legit shot at making the Finals.
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sm0kie13;3453182 said:
everybody remember i said this come 9 30 tommorow night
Ha ha....nice.
I think the Knicks are in the same boat as the Cavs. He could probably get them to the post season but I don't think there would be enough pieces to make it through the East.
I'm going to say he ends up staying in Cleveland.
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Jed_70;3453190 said:
That would be my guess too. But I don't follow NBA as much as other sports so I'm not the most knowledgeable on this.
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I hope he ends up in Miami with Wade. Then I hope they start hating each other for hogging the each others attention and it becomes a team crisis were Wade and Lebron refuse to play with each other. :laugh2:
That soap opera would blow away this free agency soap opera. I WOULD LOVE IT! :laugh2:
That soap opera would blow away this free agency soap opera. I WOULD LOVE IT! :laugh2:
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Colin Cowherd got word from a source that LeBron's press conference decision special will not be held in Cleveland.
My guess is he'll do it from his home in Akron, but I also heard from a friend of a friend who apparently works for TSA at Miami International (I know) that LeBron was spotted around 11AM leaving the terminal.
My guess is he'll do it from his home in Akron, but I also heard from a friend of a friend who apparently works for TSA at Miami International (I know) that LeBron was spotted around 11AM leaving the terminal.
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casmith07;3453216 said:
Go Soap Opera!
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Not the ideal sources, but.....
http://www.theknicksblog.com/
@JaredDudley619: Breaking News!!! My sources tell me Lebron will announce that he will be goin to the NY KNICKS tomorrow on ESPN.. This is serious.. WOW!!!!
@OGOchoCinco: #OCNNBREAKINGNEWS *Empire State of Mind* *wink* *wink*only the smart folk will put this together and figure out what i am talking about #6
@Ian_OConnor: #LeBron James in contact with Carmelo & Amare last night, according to an ESPNNewYork.com source. Carmelo pushing #Knicks hard.
http://www.theknicksblog.com/
@JaredDudley619: Breaking News!!! My sources tell me Lebron will announce that he will be goin to the NY KNICKS tomorrow on ESPN.. This is serious.. WOW!!!!
@OGOchoCinco: #OCNNBREAKINGNEWS *Empire State of Mind* *wink* *wink*only the smart folk will put this together and figure out what i am talking about #6
@Ian_OConnor: #LeBron James in contact with Carmelo & Amare last night, according to an ESPNNewYork.com source. Carmelo pushing #Knicks hard.
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JLAZeroSeven;3453251 said:
Frank Isola of the Daily News in NY just said a Knick source says Lebron press conference to happen at Allan Houston's house. (he lives in Greenwich, CT) There is also a rumor of the Boys and Girls Club in Greenwich.
There is also notes that Carmelo Anthony will go to the Knicks next season under the Eddy Curry money when it frees up. Giving the Knicks Lebron, Amare, and Anthony.
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Update: The Heat are discussing a sign and trade with the Raptors for Bosh, but even if it doesn't happen Bosh still heading to Heat.
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Boozer to Chicago.
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nyc;3453050 said:
lol, wut?
First, Miami does not have a MLE. They were under the cap. Hence, their ability to sign Bosh outright. So therefore, they do not have the MLE.
Second, you cannot trade the MLE.
Third, Cleveland, since they are already over the cap, has their own MLE.
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I thought Dwayne Wade was already a Heat?
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ABQCOWBOY;3453130 said:
I think that's probably likely. He'll sit up there for 45 minutes fielding questions. 14 will be spent watching film of LeBron grow up from a toddler to NBA phenom. With 1 going towards his statement.