Losing Beasley

[CWR]

Many here rued the day we lost Beasles.

He was a fan favorite and I personally enjoyed rooting for him. That said, we weren't going to pay him.

Here's a look at his season, along with his replacements season. I think we made a smart move.

BEASE: 4 years 29 million
REC 67
YDS 778
AVG 11.6
TDS 6

COBB: 1 year 5 million
REC 55
YDS 828
AVG 15.1
TDS 3

My apologies if this has already been posted. Beasley was a different type of player for us and you could still argue we missed him at points last season. I predicted Cobb would top Beasleys best season in Dallas and he certainly came close. In the same tone of optimism I think CD tops both of them this year. It should be fun to watch. Dak has no choice but to blow up with the weapons he has been provided.

 

[CATCH17]

Cobb and Beasley are a different style of player.

Cobb is built for bigger plays and has more run after catch abilities so his numbers should look better than Beasleys.

Beasley is much better at working small spaces and getting open quickly compared to Cobb but as a down the field threat Beasley can't touch Cobb.

Cobb can play all 3 WR positions. Beasley is limited to a slot guy that won't do much down field.

I think Beasley is better at what he does then Cobb but after you factor in the money that we paid then Cobb was obviously a better choice.


It's similar to Dak and Andy Dalton... Is Dak better? Sure.. But when you compare contracts vs what both provide there isn't a big enough difference in play to validate one over the other.

 

[Kaiser]

I think we made a smart move.

Not only that, we took Bradlee Anae with the compensation pick we got for Beasley - and we get another compensatory 5th for Cobb next year.

 

[OmerV]

It's similar to Dak and Andy Dalton... Is Dak better? Sure.. But when you compare contracts vs what both provide there isn't a big enough difference in play to validate one over the other.

The difference is they aren't looking at the #3 receiver on the team to run the offense for years to come. Long term stability at QB is dramatically more important than it is for the roles Beasley and Cobb filled.

 

[CATCH17]

The difference is they aren't looking at the #3 receiver on the team to run the offense for years to come. Long term stability at QB is dramatically more important than it is for the roles Beasley and Cobb filled.

Yeah but there is a draft where you replace players for cheap.

Guys like Cobb, Beasley, Dak, Dalton, and all the other slightly above average players can be replaced for cheap.

No need to spend big money on guys like that. Let someone else like Buffalo do it.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Not only that, we took Bradlee Anae with the compensation pick we got for Beasley - and we get another compensatory 5th for Cobb next year.

Cobb for 1 year and a 2 fifth round picks or Beasley for 4...seems easy

 

[DFWJC]

In Cowboysland, CD Lamb will be more often compared to the Edge rusher, K'Lavon Chaisson than to Cole Beasley.
That's who Dallas was so excited about on draft day when he was falling to us.
But Lamb fell too, and was such great value, we took him instead.

Time will tell how that works out.
Here's to hoping Lamb is amazing.

 

[Redball Express]

Many here rued the day we lost Beasles.

He was a fan favorite and I personally enjoyed rooting for him. That said, we weren't going to pay him.

Here's a look at his season, along with his replacements season. I think we made a smart move.

BEASE: 4 years 29 million
REC 67
YDS 778
AVG 11.6
TDS 6

COBB: 1 year 5 million
REC 55
YDS 828
AVG 15.1
TDS 3

My apologies if this has already been posted. Beasley was a different type of player for us and you could still argue we missed him at points last season. I predicted Cobb would top Beasleys best season in Dallas and he certainly came close. In the same tone of optimism I think CD tops both of them this year. It should be fun to watch. Dak has no choice but to blow up with the weapons he has been provided.

Beasley always had that underdog quality all the way back to Dez and Witten playing as the lead receivers.

Once that changed, Beasley changed wanting some of their slotted cap space becuz he was underpaid.

We know all that.

Now everything has moved around like the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Liked Bease but we outgrew him and needed more from our WR Corp. Gallup developed primarily because Beasley was not the safety valve receiver.

I will take that switch out anytime.

Now CeeDee? Oh my.

The potential is there to really produce but Beasley would be getting no snaps at all.

Additionally, Bease was receiving punt returns and just fair catching it.

He would not try to return as he did not want an injury to slow down his receiving roll

So that is a big drawback with Beasley. And he was not a threat with gadget plays like jet sweeps, reverses or halfback-type passes.

CeeDee will probably do PR and gadget plays alot better.

So Beasley is a fond memory and he turned out to be right about the offensive problems with Garrett and Linehan.

Wish him well in Buffalo. It gets really cold there, baby.

 

[CATCH17]

In Cowboysland, CD Lamb will be more often compared to the Edge rusher, K'Lavon Chaisson than to Cole Beasley.
That's who Dallas was so excited about on draft day when he was falling to us.
But Lamb fell too, and was such great value, we took him instead.

Time will tell how that works out.
Here's to hoping Lamb is amazing.

Yep..

I'll be looking at Ruggs, Jeudy, Chaisson, and any other rookie wideout that may emerge as comparisons to Lamb.

Dallas made the right choice with what was available. It had to be Lamb or Chaisson. Anything else would've made the draft in the 1st round a failure IMO.

 

[Sevenup3000]

Cobb and Beasley are a different style of player.

Cobb is built for bigger plays and has more run after catch abilities so his numbers should look better than Beasleys.

Beasley is much better at working small spaces and getting open quickly compared to Cobb but as a down the field threat Beasley can't touch Cobb.

Cobb can play all 3 WR positions. Beasley is limited to a slot guy that won't do much down field.

I think Beasley is better at what he does then Cobb but after you factor in the money that we paid then Cobb was obviously a better choice.


It's similar to Dak and Andy Dalton... Is Dak better? Sure.. But when you compare contracts vs what both provide there isn't a big enough difference in play to validate one over the other.

Like Mitchell Trubisky and Kirk Cousins too? Dak was consistently ranked in the top 10 for most major statistical categories while Andy Dalton was consistently ranked in the bottom 5.

Would you have no problem replacing Cousins with Trubisky last year?

 

[CATCH17]

Like Mitchell Trubisky and Kirk Cousins too? Dak was consistently ranked in the top 10 for most major statistical categories while Andy Dalton was consistently ranked in the bottom 5.

Would you have no problem replacing Cousins with Trubisky last year?

Yeah I don’t really care about their numbers because the Cowboys and Bengals situation is not an exact parallel of one another..

The Cowboys and Bengals have different standards and a much different cast of players.

I would take a cheap Trubisky over an expensive Cousins. Yes..

I can’t even name 1 skill player for Chicago and they play outside in horrible conditions.

Put Trubisky in a dome with Thielen, Diggs, Rudolph, and Cook and he will get a boost in his level of play.

I would go with neither though if it was my choice.. I would never pay Cousins to begin with.

 

[Kaiser]

Cobb for 1 year and a 2 fifth round picks or Beasley for 4...seems easy

Plus Cobb was 2 Million dollars cheaper in terms of 2020 cap hit.

 

[Bobhaze]

Many here rued the day we lost Beasles.

He was a fan favorite and I personally enjoyed rooting for him. That said, we weren't going to pay him.

Here's a look at his season, along with his replacements season. I think we made a smart move.

BEASE: 4 years 29 million
REC 67
YDS 778
AVG 11.6
TDS 6

COBB: 1 year 5 million
REC 55
YDS 828
AVG 15.1
TDS 3

My apologies if this has already been posted. Beasley was a different type of player for us and you could still argue we missed him at points last season. I predicted Cobb would top Beasleys best season in Dallas and he certainly came close. In the same tone of optimism I think CD tops both of them this year. It should be fun to watch. Dak has no choice but to blow up with the weapons he has been provided.

I appreciate what Cole Beasley did here. But most Cowboys fans way overrated him. For example, in his 7 yr career in Dallas, Beas averaged 3 catches for 29 yards a game. In his best season here (in 2016 with Dak btw) he caught 75 passes for 833 yards; that’s about 4.5 catches for about 52 yds per game. That’s not that difficult to replace.

Cole Beasley certainly made some big plays for us and was a great story. But the Bills overpaid for him. I wish him well in Buffalo but I’m glad he’s not on the payroll here anymore.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

I was bummed about losing him because I felt he was a diamond in the rough, a project, that we actually helped to be quite good. He reminds me of Billy Parks. He nearly walked away from his NFL career before it even started, but his teammates convinced him to come back and give it a go.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah but there is a draft where you replace players for cheap.

Guys like Cobb, Beasley, Dak, Dalton, and all the other slightly above average players can be replaced for cheap.

No need to spend big money on guys like that. Let someone else like Buffalo do it.

You can replace anyone theoretically. Doesn't mean you will actually do it. Especially at quarterback have you seen the quarterbacks that have been here under Jerry's reign?

 

[OmerV]

Yeah but there is a draft where you replace players for cheap.

Guys like Cobb, Beasley, Dak, Dalton, and all the other slightly above average players can be replaced for cheap.

No need to spend big money on guys like that. Let someone else like Buffalo do it.

I strongly disagree with that. To begin with, it's ludicrous to suggest replacing your QB though the draft is no more difficult than replacing your #3 receiver through the draft. Nobody trades up to a top 10 or top 5 draft position to get a #3 receiver, but they do with QB because that is so much harder to get right in the draft, and because that position is so much more key. There are lot more Blaine Gabbert/EJ Manuel/Jack Locker type QBs that get drafted than Pat Mahomes level QB's. And nobody spends $30 million/year on #3 WRs, but they do on QBs because they know the supply of quality QBs is much more limited, and much harder to get through the draft than other positions, and because the consequences of having a bad one are much worse than with a #3 receiver.

 

[Nova]

Yeah I don’t really care about their numbers because the Cowboys and Bengals situation is not an exact parallel of one another..

The Cowboys and Bengals have different standards and a much different cast of players.

I would take a cheap Trubisky over an expensive Cousins. Yes..

I can’t even name 1 skill player for Chicago and they play outside in horrible conditions.

Put Trubisky in a dome with Thielen, Diggs, Rudolph, and Cook and he will get a boost in his level of play.

I would go with neither though if it was my choice.. I would never pay Cousins to begin with.

Put Cousins on the ‘18 bears and you likely have a super bowl ring

 

[CATCH17]

You can replace anyone theoretically. Doesn't mean you will actually do it. Especially at quarterback have you seen the quarterbacks that have been here under Jerry's reign?

I'm looking around the league and I don't see a lot of teams desperate for a QB right now.

NFL offenses have become more simplistic. The spread offense has found it's way into the NFL and these guys have been running these offenses since highschool.

QB's are not this impossible thing to find anymore.

When you have a chance to upgrade you should take it..

Paying average is just silly. Go find the next Ryan Tannehill.. We probably did that with Dalton.


Situations are making QB's right now. Very few real difference makers at the position. Pay the difference makers and move on from the jags. That goes for every position.

 

[CATCH17]

Put Cousins on the ‘18 bears and you likely have a super bowl ring

Well does he get his big pay day and does that cost them the ability to make moves elsewhere?

Cousins has had a lot of chances to win a Superbowl and has nothing to show for it. He's just not a guy that moves the needle. He's a jaggy player. Another Alex Smith type.

Go find Pat Mahomes and pay him.

Don't pay these jaggy guys because you can replace them with some other jaggy player like Dalton, Tannehill, or whoever.

Cousins is not winning anything without a great team around him.. Well Tannehill could do the same thing.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

You can replace anyone theoretically. Doesn't mean you will actually do it. Especially at quarterback have you seen the quarterbacks that have been here under Jerry's reign?

People just assume that there are really good QBs just out there. Truth is, it’s rare that good QBs...in the prime of the careers become available. And they really are clueless about how many top QB prospects don’t ever reach Dak’s level of play.

Even if you look at Andy Dalton’s best season, it’s just inferior to what we got from Dak last year. And there’s no reason to think Dalton is as good as he was in 2015 & 2016, so to suggest that there isn’t enough of a difference between the two is laughable