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The difference between the Charger's D and our D is the line. Their's is better.

That being said, me, Winicki, and others have it on good authority that the DL isn't supposed to rush the passer in the 3-4.
 

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Emmitts rushing record is safe. LT has got to go a long long way to get is done. LT is having the greatest touchdown scoring season ever not the greatest rushing season.
 

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He will break down in a couple years, for the same reason Adrian Peterson will not have a long pro career... just too many miles on the wheels already
 

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You can say what you want, but since Emmitt, LT is the one. This RB is for real...
And I would prefer Emmitts record never to be broken, but if I had to pick one player, that would be LT for sure.
 

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vlad;1241840 said:
Did I miss something on Larry Johnson? Aside from the issues he had with not playing at all (which seem pretty substantiated from his p.o.v) while Priest was there, he's been a pretty model citizen, no?

I know he has a very strong appreciation for the game, the league, the history of its players, etc...and he is known as a hard worker.

He must have done something that I'm not aware of?

He's had some problems with his girlfriend and the law but thats it, but alot of people on this board were flat out wrong about him as a player. He plays with rage alot like MB3 to a much greater extent. Alot were howling and couldn't believe the Antonio Bryant for Larry Johnson rumors. "why would we give up AB for a Malcontent Bust from Penn State"
 

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MONT17;1241749 said:
But much better than Jim Brown who played against some sorry talent...

The league had a little more than half the teams when JB played which means LT is the one playing against watered down talent. One thing that is often overlooked is that in the 1950's and 60's football was king.. if you were a good athlete you played football; sports specialization the way it exists today was not around then. Imagine an NFL today where there were only 15-20 teams, so the bottom 40 percent of players were eliminated, and most of the Shaq's and LeBron's were playing football... then LT would be playing against the same relative level of competition JB did.

I'm not saying that athletes aren't better now-- clearly they are. But if Jim Brown had access to all the training, supplementation, etc. nowadays I'm sure he'd be just as dominant. Jim Brown was so obviously superior to the competition throughout his whole career, that LT would have to have a few more years like this in order to be considered the best ever.. although IMO he has to be top 6 or 7 based on what i've seen thus far
 

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Natedawg44;1241981 said:
Alot were howling and couldn't believe the Antonio Bryant for Larry Johnson rumors. "why would we give up AB for a Malcontent Bust from Penn State"

In hindsight, those rumours were the steal of the century.
 

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tomlinson is THE cog on his team. emmitt had many scores set up by irvin, novacek, harper, etc. lotta wear and tear on the young man already. let's see how he handles "the wall" first. and that is several seasons down the road.

emmitt's standard is a long way off just yet.
 

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stag hunter;1241988 said:
The league had a little more than half the teams when JB played which means LT is the one playing against watered down talent. One thing that is often overlooked is that in the 1950's and 60's football was king.. if you were a good athlete you played football; sports specialization the way it exists today was not around then. Imagine an NFL today where there were only 15-20 teams, so the bottom 40 percent of players were eliminated, and most of the Shaq's and LeBron's were playing football... then LT would be playing against the same relative level of competition JB did.

I'm not saying that athletes aren't better now-- clearly they are. But if Jim Brown had access to all the training, supplementation, etc. nowadays I'm sure he'd be just as dominant. Jim Brown was so obviously superior to the competition throughout his whole career, that LT would have to have a few more years like this in order to be considered the best ever.. although IMO he has to be top 6 or 7 based on what i've seen thus far

I disagree with a little of your post. Baseball was king during the 50s and 60s. Football is currently the king, but in the past era they were not. Plus, the population of the U.S. has grown just like the NFL has grown. Percentage wise, there is still a similar number of athletes avaible for each team even though there are more teams.
 

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Natedawg44;1241916 said:
Emmitts rushing record is safe. LT has got to go a long long way to get is done. LT is having the greatest touchdown scoring season ever not the greatest rushing season.

He is not having one of the greatest rushing seasons, but after tonight he may be in for a greater single rushing season than Emmitt every had. His 178 yards(at 9:49 CST) gives him 1605 for the season. It is the 3rd time he has surpassed 1600 yards in a season, which I think is very good for a back. It means they average at least 100 yards a game over a 16 game season to accomplish this feat. Emmitt did it twice with 1713 in 1992 and 1773 in 1995. With two+ games left this season, LT could surpass Emmitt's season high. I still think, the career total will be hard to accomplish. It will take some luck on the injury front and LT(27) is a year older than Emmitt(26) was at the same stage of their careers.
 

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Lt stats ........................................Emmitt
1236 yards 10 td ............................937 yards 11td
1683 yards 14 td ...........................1563 yards 12 td
1645 yards 13 td ............................1713 yards 18 td
1335 yards 17 td ............................1486 yards 9 td
1462 yards 18 td ............................1484 yards 21 td
1427 yards 26 td ............................1773 yards 25 td
8788 yards 98 td .............................8956 yards 96 td
175 yards 2 td tonight
8963 yards 100 td

Now I know this proved NOTHING about the rushing record. But BARRING INJURY this guy will break the 164 record. Now will his body hold up after 32. We shall see. But in the next 4 years if he averages 13 td a year he will have 152 touchdowns barring injury. Now after those 4 years will his body hold up??? if it does (which i dont think it will) you could argue this guy is going to break some records.

Emmitt is always the greatest to me though. I think eventually LT may run down but we shall see. The guy is going to get close if he doesnt get hurt.
 

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stag hunter;1241964 said:
He will break down in a couple years, for the same reason Adrian Peterson will not have a long pro career... just too many miles on the wheels already


I disagree....he doesn't take too many hits. I think he can stay healthy and produce for a while.
 

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joseephuss;1242002 said:
I disagree with a little of your post. Baseball was king during the 50s and 60s. Football is currently the king, but in the past era they were not. Plus, the population of the U.S. has grown just like the NFL has grown. Percentage wise, there is still a similar number of athletes avaible for each team even though there are more teams.


exactly.....I was just thinking about the population arguement. And you can't deny the fact that many athletes were turned away from the chance to play because of race.

The competition now is as great as it has ever been. When you have guys who are training from the day they can walk to become a monster on the field, there is no comparison to the talent that was available back in the day.

I would bet the farm that if you took the best team from the 50s and put them up against the best team of today, the today team would win hands down. The talent is just head and shoulders above and the knowledge of the game is light years beyond.
 

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Thehoofbite;1242210 said:
I disagree....he doesn't take too many hits. I think he can stay healthy and produce for a while.

I agree Tomlinson had 784 to Peterson's 727 carries while in college and he seems to be doing pretty good. Emmitt had around 700 as well.
 

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Thehoofbite;1242233 said:
exactly.....I was just thinking about the population arguement. And you can't deny the fact that many athletes were turned away from the chance to play because of race.

The competition now is as great as it has ever been. When you have guys who are training from the day they can walk to become a monster on the field, there is no comparison to the talent that was available back in the day.

I would bet the farm that if you took the best team from the 50s and put them up against the best team of today, the today team would win hands down. The talent is just head and shoulders above and the knowledge of the game is light years beyond.

Uh Jim Brown was black.
 

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smarta5150;1241650 said:
LT is ok.

Yeah...LT is great.
No one better to break any of Emmitt's records as he goes on...Except the all time rushing record.

I am in fear of the all time rushing TD record. But he is a class act, so can not deny him of his records...

Great accomplishments...congrats....
 

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I honestly think the things that are more likely to hurt backs more is blitz pickup, in some cases you have 250+lbs men running at you and you have to pick them off giving away 50+ lbs.
 
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