LT takes aim at passing Emmitt

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khiladi;2686581 said:
Maybe I am imagining things, but the guy never was the same player after he almost shattered his neck against the Bears that one year, trying to leap over the pile...

It was kind of hard for Emmitt to be the same player because he had set such a high standard prior to that Bears game. Emmitt played in 6 seasons prior to that Bears game. He led the league in rushing yards 4 times, rushing TDs 3 times and rushing attempts 3 times during that 6 year span. He averaged 1492 rushing yards and 16 rushing TDs a season during that span.

That Bears game was at the beginning of his 7th season. Even though Emmitt was never quite the same player he was still pretty good. He averaged 1205 rushing yards and 8 rushing TDs a season over the next 6 seasons.
 

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Apollo Creed;2686536 said:
In Emmitt's famous list of 'goals' he outlined before he started his career. One of them was to be the NFLs all time leading rusher.

Nice thought.

Ya, striving for greatness at the NFL level is so shallow, what was Emmitt thinking as a rookie?:)
 

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joseephuss;2686613 said:
That Bears game was at the beginning of his 7th season. Even though Emmitt was never quite the same player he was still pretty good. He averaged 1205 rushing yards and 8 rushing TDs a season over the next 6 seasons.
He was still great, but I just think he lost a little something. I don't know if it was the high standard or the fact that the almost career-ending injury made him a little softer. I don't remember a single time where Emmitt tried jumping the pile again. The guy was just fearless up until then.
 

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Mr.davon24;2686509 said:
IMO anyone that wants to chase after records just so their name is branded in the books, wouldn't be on my team.

khiladi;2686532 said:
You honestly think Emmitt didn't care about records? Then why did he take every football from a TD he scored?



He not only cared. He cared alot.


He made a list of goals when he got into the NFL, wrote them down and everything.

On the list was yardage record. He said so himself.




He won 3 SB's so it dont make me no never mind. :)
 

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I like LT and thought that if someone had to break 22's record, he'd be a good one to pick.

That was a couple of years ago, though. LT has broken down since then and is still a good player, but he's not a top five back anymore. Add in the fact that Sproles is going to get more touches with the two back system and he's not going to be able to attain as many yards as he used to.

I think LT plays another 2-3 years and calls it good - I don't see him hanging around just for the sake of hanging around like Favre.
 

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Anyone who believes that Emmitt was a "me first" kind of player didn't see him play. The guy laid it on the line every game, he was the best blocking RB (non-FB) in the game and routinely put his body on the line to give Aikman time to throw. He was our short-yardage guy, which usually doesn't lead to longevity but he was always in there on 4th-and-1 or on the goalline.

Guys who are "me first" avoid contact and take themselves out of the game when they have a boo-boo (see meIon $ander$ for an example) but Emmitt played and played hard when he was hurt. If all he was about was the record he would have done everything he could to preserve his body for as long as possible. He did that but not on the field. He had a great workout regimen and worked on his flexibility and durability. The only time he missed any significant time was when Roy Williams broke his collarbone when Emmitt was with the Cards.

Emmitt a "me first" player? I don't think so people. :cool:
 

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khiladi;2686581 said:
Maybe I am imagining things, but the guy never was the same player after he almost shattered his neck against the Bears that one year, trying to leap over the pile...


I think the injury, the toll of nearly 7 years of carrying the ball a lot, and the decreasing talent around him at that point all factored into that, for sure.
 

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I won't say there is no chance because there is. But I highly doubt LT can pass Emmitt. It wouldn't surprise me if LT's career end up just like S. Alexander's did. Down the tubes in the matter of just two years after his MVP season.
 

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Apollo Creed;2686546 said:
Pearlman's book enlightened me to a lot of the me-first garbage Emmitt was about during the 90s.

Always pictured him as the epitome of a team-player, but I'm only 21 so all I can do is read and hear opinions of the kind of guy he was.

Any of you elder statesmen want to destroy the image I have of my chilldhood idol anymore? j/k

Most of Pearlman's book is greatly exaggerated. As previosuly mentioned, "The Separated Shoulder" game should counter any claims about Emmitt being a "me first" guy.

Also note that setting individual goals and being a team player are not mutually exclusive. Emmitt's going for rushing titles and wanting to be the greatest was a huge component of a dynasty.
 

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Mr.davon24;2686509 said:
IMO anyone that wants to chase after records just so their name is branded in the books, wouldn't be on my team.

Just because he said that doesn't mean he doesn't care about his team or is trying to be selfish... The questioning was probably specific to the subject he talked about.
 

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LT is DONE, FINISHED, ACABADO, OVER....I've watched almost every Chargers game last 2 seasons. Running out of bounds trying not to get hit, Doing Julius JOnes Moves like running into the back of his OLine. I dont know what happened to him but He's grown SOFT.


Unless He turns the clock around He's a long shot at Emmits records.
 

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Apollo Creed;2686546 said:
Pearlman's book enlightened me to a lot of the me-first garbage Emmitt was about during the 90s.

Always pictured him as the epitome of a team-player, but I'm only 21 so all I can do is read and hear opinions of the kind of guy he was.

Any of you elder statesmen want to destroy the image I have of my chilldhood idol anymore? j/k

People can question his practice habits and his unwillingness to sign autographs all they want, but I would like for you or Pearlman to show me one instance of Emmitt not playing his heart out on the field on every play. He blocked just as hard as he carried and fought for every yard.
 

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speedkilz88;2686490 said:
At one point he had a shot. I think that shot went by already.

Yep - he's clearly slowed down the last 2 years. I don't see it happening.
 

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Big Country;2686922 said:
Just because he said that doesn't mean he doesn't care about his team or is trying to be selfish... The questioning was probably specific to the subject he talked about.

:lmao2:

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Mr.davon24;2686509 said:
IMO anyone that wants to chase after records just so their name is branded in the books, wouldn't be on my team.

People needs goals to motivate themselves at times and although this is an individualistic goal it's one that very few players will ever have a chance of re-writing. Ladanian has been a top talent and one time was the poster boy for team first guy.

The last couple of years he's taken a hit on that reputation. Would be nice to hear him also say he'd like to get 3 rings like Emmitt did also. So I get your point but I'm taking it more as the guy is still very hungry to play more than anything. He has many years of serious production to go if he's going to meet that goal and it tells me what he still thinks he'scapable of.

The guy did just take a smaller salary knowing the level of talent he is and the historic production the Chargers could possibly still get out of him. So I think that speaks out much more than a "me first" perception.
 

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cowboyeric8;2686477 said:
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Rushing, TD records within reach and now part of long-term plan

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LaDainian Tomlinson's brand new three-year contract is accompanied by a bold new five-year plan.

After years of artful evasions and smooth sidesteps, the Chargers' reunited-and-it-feels-so-good running back officially took aim at Emmitt Smith yesterday.

LT declared his desire for the National Football League's career records for rushing and rushing touchdowns, both presently in Smith's possession, and says he is now prepared to pursue them longer than he had previously planned on playing.

“For so long, I blocked it out,” Tomlinson said during a news conference at the Chargers' Murphy Canyon complex. “It was so far out there. But re-evaluating where I'm at in my career now, I think it's reachable.”

Tomlinson finished his eighth NFL season with 11,760 rushing yards, which ranks 14th on the all-time list and leaves him 6,595 yards short of Smith's staggering standard: 18,355.

That's five years at 1,319 yards per year. That's a matter of nearly four miles, a distance no NFL running back has traveled after the age of 30. Because Tomlinson turns 30 on June 23, the relative reachability of Smith's rushing record would seem remote. (Smith leads LT in rushing touchdowns 164-126.)

Still, you can't fault a guy for having goals, and Bolts fans ought to feel buoyed by LT's ambition. If his revised contract is just a reprieve, a one-year commitment with another payroll decision due next spring, Tomlinson's interest in a long-term project is profoundly positive. That he has the confidence to openly target Smith's records tells you there may be more left in LT's tank than was evident last fall.

“I guess I just kind of got the sense of, 'Why not?' ” Tomlinson said. “Why should I, at the end of my career, look back and say, 'I was this close to Emmitt's record. Why didn't I continue to play and try to get it?' I don't want to have that regret. I don't want to have any regrets when I leave this game. I guess that's kind of what's changed.”

Upon reaching the 10,000-yard plateau in November 2007, Tomlinson insisted he would be finished with pro football no later than 2012, and that he would certainly not hang on for statistical significance.

“If my heart is not in it,” he said then, “I'm not going to keep playing to break a record. I would never do that.”

That time has changed his tune is not unusual. The closer an athlete gets to his career's finish line, the more eager he becomes to extend the race. When an athlete plays hurt, as Tomlinson did for much of the 2008 season, he sometimes discovers that the inability to dominate does not eliminate the desire to compete.

If you really love the game, and all of the adulation and rewards that accompany it, you're liable to linger past the point where you're the hottest thing happening. The key question about LaDainian Tomlinson is whether he is already past that point or if it's still possible he can retrace his steps to pro football's summit.

“I think I will continue to be a very explosive player,” he said. “You guys saw me last year where I was banged up all year, played with a hurt toe and, obviously, with the groin injury. I'll be back to full strength (this year) and to being the LT you guys are used to seeing.”

Clearly, the Chargers have some doubts on this score. Unable to rely on a vintage Tomlinson at the end of successive playoff seasons, the Chargers were moved to seek contractual concessions as a condition of the player's continued employment. Ostensibly, management was motivated by a desire for future flexibility under the NFL's salary cap. Presumably, executives picked this point to revisit LT's unguaranteed contract because his leverage was low.

Should he resume being “the LT you guys are used to seeing,” the Chargers would have a great back at a bargain price. Should Tomlinson continue to accumulate injuries and/or perform ineffectively, the Chargers would be positioned to cut bait without costly consequences.

Beyond a certain point, every running back becomes a year-to-year proposition, and after 2,657 career carries, the odds are against a Tomlinson renaissance. Still, it's worth noting that Curtis Martin was 31 when he led the NFL in rushing in 2004; that Tiki Barber ran for 1,860 and 1,662 yards in consecutive seasons after he turned 30; and that Walter Payton averaged 1,523 yards in the first three years after his 30th birthday.

Age is not an arbitrary consideration in pro football, but neither does it exclude an exceptional talent.

“If we're winning and winning championships, I do want to play as long as I can and walk away with all the records,” Tomlinson said. “That would be a heck of a challenge and I'm up for challenges.”

Emmitt Smith can consider himself warned.


:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: any body wants to bet on this
 

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Mr.davon24;2686509 said:
IMO anyone that wants to chase after records just so their name is branded in the books, wouldn't be on my team.

Because TD's = losses :rolleyes:
 
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