RELEASED Lucky Whitehead Cut **merged**

[Stash]

They don't need him and I was hoping Switzer would take his place well before this happened.

That being said, it doesn't change the fact that it's not a good look for the Cowboys. I think they were desperate to make a PR move here and send a message given all the issues they have had this offseason with player problems and the Lucky situation presented itself to them and they quickly acted to only then find out that the impetus for cutting him turns out to be a false charge.

And bingo was his name-o!

 

[Sydla]

I'd disagree with that characterization. One, Lucky wasn't a bad seed. Two, he was most definitely already on his way out. They didn't spend a fourth on his replacement for nothing.

The story yesterday was just the nail in the coffin. The net result was the same as it was going to be anyway. And it was still a distraction right at the start of camp. Like Dez said, no player comes before the good of the team.

Bad seed in the sense that he had other issues that pissed the Cowboys off.

Only a truly naïve person can't see what happened here. Cowboys cut Lucky as message. Turns out they cut him for a crime he didn't commit. Then the Cowboys leak to some in the press that Lucky had other issues and that's really why he was cut.

And you are right, he was likely a cut casualty anyway. So why the rush to then cut him over something you didn't even know was true? Why not wait for the facts to come out, then cut him based on his performance? Instead, they rushed to send a message to the team and now have egg on their faces.

"The story yesterday" that got him cut TURNED OUT TO BE A FALSE ACCUSATION. How in the world can you then turn around and use that as justification to cut him? It makes no sense at all.

 

[Stash]

Bad seed in the sense that he had other issues that pissed the Cowboys off.

Only a truly naïve person can't see what happened here. Cowboys cut Lucky as message. Turns out they cut him for a crime he didn't commit. Then the Cowboys leak to some in the press that Lucky had other issues and that's really why he was cut.

And you are right, he was likely a cut casualty anyway. So why the rush to then cut him over something you didn't even know was true? Why not wait for the facts to come out, then cut him based on his performance? Instead, they rushed to send a message to the team and now have egg on their faces.

"The story yesterday" that got him cut TURNED OUT TO BE A FALSE ACCUSATION. How in the world can you then turn around and use that as justification to cut him? It makes no sense at all.

Some fans feel it is their obligation to turn a blind eye to the truth if that truth puts their favorite team in an unfavorable light.

That is EXACTLY what is happening.

 

[JBond]

I'd disagree with that characterization. One, Lucky wasn't a bad seed. Two, he was most definitely already on his way out. They didn't spend a fourth on his replacement for nothing.

The story yesterday was just the nail in the coffin. The net result was the same as it was going to be anyway. And it was still a distraction right at the start of camp. Like Dez said, no player comes before the good of the team.

"Like Dez said".... the same Dez that couldn't bother to show up to camp on time?

 

[Sydla]

No, it was a good move. Very Jimmy or Belichick-ish.

Was it far to cut poor ole Curvin Richards.

Is it fair that Belichick has cut or traded players just for being opinionated?

Lucky's previous actions eliminated any buffer he might otherwise get in this situation.

They wouldn't have cut Heath in this situation despite not being a star player because he has followed the rules and would get the benefit of the doubt.

The reason Millennials are the way they are is their parents were too soft.

How many times has Belicheck cut a player an hour or so after being accused of a crime and then two hours later it turns out the player was falsely accused of the crime?

It's a PR blunder by the Cowboys. If they had cut Lucky last week, no one would have cared. But when the story breaks Lucky was accused of a crime, then the Cowboys cut him for that and then it turns out that Lucky was not actually the perpetrator of that crime, your org looks like a monkey humping a football.

And the Cowboys know it too. Why? Because once the story broke that Lucky wasn't involved suddenly Cowboys friendly media personnel were breaking stories that the Cowboys had other issues with Lucky. That's damage control 101 for anyone who has done PR in their lives.

 

[Idgit]

Bad seed in the sense that he had other issues that pissed the Cowboys off.

Only a truly naïve person can't see what happened here. Cowboys cut Lucky as message. Turns out they cut him for a crime he didn't commit. Then the Cowboys leak to some in the press that Lucky had other issues and that's really why he was cut.

And you are right, he was likely a cut casualty anyway. So why the rush to then cut him over something you didn't even know was true? Why not wait for the facts to come out, then cut him based on his performance? Instead, they rushed to send a message to the team and now have egg on their faces.

"The story yesterday" that got him cut TURNED OUT TO BE A FALSE ACCUSATION. How in the world can you then turn around and use that as justification to cut him? It makes no sense at all.

They cut him as a message. They also cut him because of the immediate distraction right at the start of camp and because he was a player on the thinnest of ice already.

I don't think it's naive to suggest all of those things had a role. Or that, because of the accumulation of reasons, they don't really have egg on their faces at all. Eliminating the distraction alone was reason enough in this case.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

"Like Dez said".... the same Dez that couldn't bother to show up to camp on time?

No the same Dez that was excused due to being sick......not the same as just being late

 

[xwalker]

It was delivered to a Manassas, VA address. Lucky resides in Texas
YR

His parents address...

 

[Stash]

No the same Dez that was excused due to being sick......not the same as just being late

Not accurate.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...o?li=BBnb7Kz&%3Bocid=UP97DHP&%252525253Bpfr=1

 

[Sydla]

I don't get the angst over cutting Lucky either. It maybe a bad look to cut someone seemingly misinformed (i.e re: his participation in theft or whatever) but he was definitely on the roster bubble already. He could have been a perfect angel off the field and it still wouldn't have prevented him from being cut.

I think that's the problem. It's not about Lucky, who was a fringe player. It could have been any player on this roster.

It's about how the organization, already in the midst of a tough offseason from a PR perspective with all the off the field issues, then goes and ends up looking like a monkey humping a football by showing little from a discipline perspective for other player problems suddenly draws the line in the sand over a crime that was actually not even committed by the players.

That's a PR blunder.

 

[Idgit]

"Like Dez said".... the same Dez that couldn't bother to show up to camp on time?

Yeah. He actually said it in that context, too:

"I would say so,'' Bryant said. "We're trying to do something special here.

"I really don't have that much room to talk. Even though I had a legit deal...I still should have been there (on time last Friday), but I wasn't. We handled it.

"At the same time, I understand what coach Garrett is trying to do. You've got to take care of your business.''​

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Not accurate.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/dez-bryant-shows-up-late-for-practice-takes-full-responsibility/ar-AAozlXo?li=BBnb7Kz&%3Bocid=UP97DHP&%252525253Bpfr=1

Funny I seen from a local source saying different. Will see if I can find the link but I'm at work.

I could be wrong by misreading or read an earlier report. Eitherway he missed a condition test....not like he missed the flight to training camp or didn't show up

 

[Sydla]

They cut him as a message. They also cut him because of the immediate distraction right at the start of camp and because he was a player on the thinnest of ice already.

I don't think it's naive to suggest all of those things had a role. Or that, because of the accumulation of reasons, they don't really have egg on their faces at all. Eliminating the distraction alone was reason enough in this case.

And the "distraction" was a false accusation that Lucky did not create himself.

You guys are trying hard to spin this but the fact remains the Cowboys cut him largely because they believed he had committed a crime. He didn't commit a crime. So the impetus for cutting him was something he didn't even do.

It's mind boggling that some can't just admit that this isn't a good look for the Cowboys. I mean they actually look even softer on discipline now because everyone knows this was a token cut to try to swing PR back in their favor........... only to have it bite them in the butt because they cut a guy for something he didn't even do.

 

[xwalker]

How many times has Belicheck cut a player an hour or so after being accused of a crime and then two hours later it turns out the player was falsely accused of the crime?

It's a PR blunder by the Cowboys. If they had cut Lucky last week, no one would have cared. But when the story breaks Lucky was accused of a crime, then the Cowboys cut him for that and then it turns out that Lucky was not actually the perpetrator of that crime, your org looks like a monkey humping a football.

And the Cowboys know it too. Why? Because once the story broke that Lucky wasn't involved suddenly Cowboys friendly media personnel were breaking stories that the Cowboys had other issues with Lucky. That's damage control 101 for anyone who has done PR in their lives.

They need to own it.

Jimmy would just say "I might cut somebody else today".

Belichick: "Next question".

Again all this mamby pamby nonsense is how we ended up will Millennials.

Did the Lou Gossett Jr. Character let the David Keith character back into the Naval Aviator program when it turned out his girlfriend was just yanking his chain?

The Cowboys don't abruptly cut players unless someone was already tired of that player.

 

[erod]

I think that's there were tons of valid reasons to cut the guy, the part that sticks in my craw is that they ultimately did it based on false information.

Again, I advocated being rid of the guy last year when he was suspended for not showing up to work while not being good at his job. They chose not to.

That still wouldn't wash away the stink of how he was released based on false information.

I don't believe the Cowboys think it's false information. How can a guy instantly recite your social security number and birthday who happens to look like you? I think the Cowboys believe there is an association with this guy.

Likewise, the police are investigating about the dog situation, too. Who holds a dog ransom for $20,000?

All in 2-3 week span?

Impossibly weird.

 

[erod]

And the "distraction" was a false accusation that Lucky did not create himself.

You guys are trying hard to spin this but the fact remains the Cowboys cut him largely because they believed he had committed a crime. He didn't commit a crime. So the impetus for cutting him was something he didn't even do.

It's mind boggling that some can't just admit that this isn't a good look for the Cowboys. I mean they actually look even softer on discipline now because everyone knows this was a token cut to try to swing PR back in their favor........... only to have it bite them in the butt because they cut a guy for something he didn't even do.

Stay tuned. Some reports may be breaking. Neither of these stories is over yet.

 

[Idgit]

Some fans feel it is their obligation to turn a blind eye to the truth if that truth puts their favorite team in an unfavorable light.

That is EXACTLY what is happening.

This is, of course, completely untrue.

What's actually happening is you're barking at shadows again, and don't like me pointing it out.

 

[xwalker]

And the "distraction" was a false accusation that Lucky did not create himself.

You guys are trying hard to spin this but the fact remains the Cowboys cut him largely because they believed he had committed a crime. He didn't commit a crime. So the impetus for cutting him was something he didn't even do.

It's mind boggling that some can't just admit that this isn't a good look for the Cowboys. I mean they actually look even softer on discipline now because everyone knows this was a token cut to try to swing PR back in their favor........... only to have it bite them in the butt because they cut a guy for something he didn't even do.

Send Lucky to the GD (Gosh Darn) Asthma field already and move on.

Were you around back then to see how a real winner (Jimmy) handles business?

Did poor ole Curvin Richards deserve another chance? Answer: We won Super Bowls. I don't care what happened to Curvin Richards.

Unless injuries occur, there is zero chance Lucky was going to make the team.

 

[Sydla]

They need to own it.

Jimmy would just say "I might cut somebody else today".

Belichick: "Next question".

Again all this mamby pamby nonsense is how we ended up will Millennials.

Did the Lou Gossett Jr. Character let the David Keith character back into the Naval Aviator program when it turned out his girlfriend was just yanking his chain?

The Cowboys don't abruptly cut players unless someone was already tired of that player.

And the final straw was cutting him because they thought he committed a crime that he actually didn't and was refuted within hours of cutting him.

So yeah, they look like a monkey humping a football here. Is Lucky still in Oxnard today if the accusation is never made? Of course he is.

They used a false accusation to finally dump him. And then when it breaks across the country that the Cowboys just cut a guy for a crime he didn't commit (while keeping others who actually did have off the field problems) the Cowboys started leaking the stuff about other issues with Lucky because they knew they had messed up and look bad.

 

[Idgit]

And the "distraction" was a false accusation that Lucky did not create himself.

You guys are trying hard to spin this but the fact remains the Cowboys cut him largely because they believed he had committed a crime. He didn't commit a crime. So the impetus for cutting him was something he didn't even do.

It's mind boggling that some can't just admit that this isn't a good look for the Cowboys. I mean they actually look even softer on discipline now because everyone knows this was a token cut to try to swing PR back in their favor........... only to have it bite them in the butt because they cut a guy for something he didn't even do.

The distraction was real. It was the result of a false accusation. I'm not spinning anything.

They released him for a pattern of behavior that included them not believing his story about the arrest warrant. That's sufficient reason to cut your 5th receiver who was a roster long shot in the first place. Whatever is in the best interest of the team. He isn't owed a roster spot.