RELEASED Lucky Whitehead Cut **merged**

[Sydla]

Because they needed him for camp. He wasn''t making the roster. Can't believe all this arguing over Lucky. I feel like I'm in The Twilight Zone.

It's disingenuous to keep suggesting this is about Lucky. It's really not.

It's about the bad PR the Cowboys got for cutting a guy an hour after he's accused of committing a crime and then a few hours after that have it come out that the player wasn't even in the state when the crime was committed.

It doesn't matter who the player is. Could have been Lucky, or Carroll, or Hitchens, or Wilson, or Lawrence, or Mayowa. The player is largely inconsequential here. It's the act that is the issue.

 

[erod]

The one that said that the "perpetrator" never had ID confirming that it was, in fact, Lucky Whitehead and just "took some guy's word for it"? Again, that makes the most every bit as complicit in this mess as the incompetent police were.

The guy knows Lucky's social security number by heart. And his birthday. He did more than just say he was Lucky Whitehead.

And according to Fisher, the Cowboys are suggesting that Lucky knows the guy.

This, after dozens and dozens of issues with the kid. Had multiple warnings before they LEFT HIM BEHIND for the Giants game last year.

Punt returners who can't catch aren't worth that.

We're squabbling over an absolute nobody.

 

[Philmonroe]

Because they needed him for camp. He wasn''t making the roster. Can't believe all this arguing over Lucky. I feel like I'm in The Twilight Zone.

You can't believe that because like myself and others you willingly keep posting. Maybe you like the twilight zone and just want to go back and forth just like the rest of us. Relax, keep posting, and stop acting like don't like this thread

 

[erod]

Oh and if that comes out then what are the other side going to say? Whoops. Of course the Cowboys know more about this then they're letting on.

I've never heard that tone from Jason Garrett before in yesterday's strange press conference.

You can tell he's absolutely sick of dealing with this kid.

 

[Idgit]

Let's see, said "selfish player" did the same thing this year and dint show up when he was supposed to? How's that look in retrospect? I guess you didn't think it through?



And Dez Bryant will be missing something else while you and the team say "it's no big deal". Lather Rinse Repeat. Great example once again.

So, you're gonna dodge the question.

That's fine, because everybody reading the thread can answer it for you. Dez Bryant's missed MRI from last season had zero measurable impact on the season. None whatsoever. All of your bluster about it was completely misdirected.

The same will be the case with Lucky in a few weeks. We both know it.

 

[AsthmaField]

You want to call it "minutiae" so you can feel better about it. It's far from it. It was an NFL roster move and a career impacted based on false information and nothing less.

Bro, I don't need to feel better about it at all. I'm 100% good with it and have been since they cut him and I found out the police issued the warrant under the wrong name.

He had no more career in Dallas. It was over. He was going to have to move on to another team (if he could) anyway. That one bit might be false (or partially false) information but they cut him for numerous reasons, including performance. The move wasn't made because of that incident. It was going to happen anyway.

Expedited the move? Likely, but it isn't why they cut him.

 

[Philmonroe]

The guy knows Lucky's social security number by heart. And his birthday. He did more than just say he was Lucky Whitehead.

And according to Fisher, the Cowboys are suggesting that Lucky knows the guy.

This, after dozens and dozens of issues with the kid. Had multiple warnings before they LEFT HIM BEHIND for the Giants game last year.

Punt returners who can't catch aren't worth that.

We're squabbling over an absolute nobody.

Nobody is squabbling over lucky himself but all the disingenuous poster will keep saying that. It is only about the way it was done that's all. You or nobody else can find a post saying they are heartbroken about him being cut as a player that wasn't joking. You have people on this page saying exactly what the thread is about but you and others keep trying to push this narrative that it's all about Lucky as a player. That's disingenuous man.

 

[Sydla]

I get what you're saying. Understand it completely. I just think the people throwing a fit over it are unjustified to do so.

This is a real question because I don't know the answer to it: When was the last time an NFL player was accused of a crime and the police had the wrong name?

No idea myself.

I think what makes it even worse is that this all played out over a few hours. I think I'd be more inclined to give the Cowboys the benefit of the doubt here if it was a like a week between cutting him and then it comes out that he may not have been involved. But we are talking hours here between the accusation, the Cowboys cutting him and then the attorney stating publicly it's impossible Lucky committed the crime because he has a plane ticket to confirm it.

As I said earlier, I think this was a PR move that blew up on the Cowboys. They had come under fire for off the field problems. So news breaks that another Cowboys players was involved in a crime. I think the Cowboys wanted to send a message and try to change the narrative that they take player issues seriously, so they immediately cut Lucky assuming he had committed a crime.

But then a few hours later, the narrative gets blown to hell because it turns out Lucky hadn't done anything wrong. So the impetus for cutting him turned out to be false. Immediately, media friendly's in Dallas start whispering about other Lucky problems that led to his cutting. But that was just damage control from the Cowboys trying to cover up the fact that they rushed to control the Lucky story from the start and it blew up in a way they didn't think it could.

In the end, bad PR, plain and simple. Roster wise, no big deal.

 

[AsthmaField]

You have people on this page saying exactly what the thread is about but you and others keep trying to push this narrative that it's all about Lucky as a player. That's disingenuous man.

No, that's why he was cut (thread title is Lucky Whitehead cut). If he was a player they wanted, they wouldn't have cut him for this. Also, if he hadn't had multiple problems, they wouldn't have cut him for this.

 

[erod]

Nobody is squabbling over lucky himself but all the disingenuous poster will keep saying that. It is only about the way it was done that's all. You or nobody else can find a post saying they are heartbroken about him being cut as a player that wasn't joking. You have people on this page saying exactly what the thread is about but you and others keep trying to push this narrative that it's all about Lucky as a player. That's disingenuous man.

No, I'm saying what I heard this morning. The Cowboys still believe he was involved in both the Virginia incident and the dognapping incident.

They aren't going to give details. There's no need. They want him gone, and they don't need to get involved in Lucky's sordid life.

If he could play, they would let this go. He can't, so they cut him earlier than planned.

 

[Idgit]

I've never heard that tone from Jason Garrett before in yesterday's strange press conference.

You can tell he's absolutely sick of dealing with this kid.

I'm trying to remember the details of it (lol), but didn't Lucky have an unreported car accident a few years back that he posted all over social media and that caught Garrett by surprise in a press conference? And then there was him staying up until 4AM or whatever and posting about it on social media before sleeping in and coming in late for a team meeting before last year's Giants game. And then the dog napping. And then the shoplifting story where they didn't believe his version of events. It's not really all that hard to believe the guy just became more trouble than he was worth. And then this story coming out after he's been released is like his going-away headache for everybody.

All over a guy who's replacement was already on the roster.

 

[Philmonroe]

No, I'm saying what I heard this morning. The Cowboys still believe he was involved in both the Virginia incident and the dognapping incident.

They aren't going to give details. There's no need. They want him gone, and they don't need to get involved in Lucky's sordid life.

If he could play, they would let this go. He can't, so they cut him earlier than planned.

What are you talking about? My post has nothing to do with some alleged new info. I said people keep making this about lucky when yes he is the person who happens to be affected but nobody is speaking on him but the actual way the situation went down. Most agree that he was probably gone so if that's the case and they would've cut him before this or after this thread is a page or two. People really believe this thread is that long over Lucky love? Come on.

@PA Cowboy Fan do you have something to add or are you going to keep ducking me because you feel offended I said you were from the boonies of PA and not the city. It's only jokes you don't have to be sensitive that you aren't from the city.

 

[Sydla]

I'm trying to remember the details of it (lol), but didn't Lucky have an unreported car accident a few years back that he posted all over social media and that caught Garrett by surprise in a press conference? And then there was him staying up until 4AM or whatever and posting about it on social media before sleeping in and coming in late for a team meeting before last year's Giants game. And then the dog napping. And then the shoplifting story where they didn't believe his version of events. It's not really all that hard to believe the guy just became more trouble than he was worth. And then this story coming out after he's been released is like his going-away headache for everybody.

All over a guy who's replacement was already on the roster.

Except that's not really the point and you know it.

 

[AsthmaField]

But then a few hours later, the narrative gets blown to hell because it turns out Lucky hadn't done anything wrong. So the impetus for cutting him turned out to be false. Immediately, media friendly's in Dallas start whispering about other Lucky problems that led to his cutting. But that was just damage control from the Cowboys trying to cover up the fact that they rushed to control the Lucky story from the start and it blew up in a way they didn't think it could.

I took the other paragraphs out because I get what you're saying and, while I don't agree with the people feeling that way, I'm not going to make me and you continue pointing out the two sides of this.

However, this paragraph is where I disagree with what you wrote. It didn't turn out that Lucky hadn't done anything wrong. He's done plenty, even if he had zero to do with this shoplifting incident. I think it is 100% the truth that Lucky had other problems (performance issues aside). I don't think it was damage control (although it might have partially been, I don't know for sure either way). In any event, those other problems are verified going back to last season.

Naturally, the media is going to be asking a lot of questions about it to players/coaches/etc., and in doing so I'm sure they were told there were plenty of other issues. To me, it is Occam's Razor. It is the simplest answer here.

 

[Stash]

So, you're gonna dodge the question.

What question?

That's fine, because everybody reading the thread can answer it for you. Dez Bryant's missed MRI from last season had zero measurable impact on the season. None whatsoever. All of your bluster about it was completely misdirected.

The same guy just did the same thing again this year! This time missing day one of school! But yeah, criticizing him was obviously "bluster" because it was never an issue and never happened again, right?

And you somehow think this makes you look better or "right"? OK...

The same will be the case with Lucky in a few weeks. We both know it.

I've never argued anything about long term impact, that's just your weak attempt to divert this from the actual issue which has been repeated so many times that even you can't blind yourself to it.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Unfortunately for him, Lucky wasn't so lucky.

 

[Stash]

Bro, I don't need to feel better about it at all. I'm 100% good with it and have been since they cut him and I found out the police issued the warrant under the wrong name.

He had no more career in Dallas. It was over. He was going to have to move on to another team (if he could) anyway. That one bit might be false (or partially false) information but they cut him for numerous reasons, including performance. The move wasn't made because of that incident. It was going to happen anyway.

Expedited the move? Likely, but it isn't why they cut him.

It's exactly why they cut him. You know it. I know it. And the world knows it.

Whether they "cut him anyway" has nothing to do with the fact that they screw up and did cut him over false information.

 

[Nightman]

They made a decision that was in the best interest of the Dallas Cowboys and are moving on

 

[Teague31]

Why in the blue hell is there a 30 page thread on this? Dude was a dead man walking as soon as Switzer was drafted

 

[AsthmaField]

He was taken off the field minutes after the shoplifting story broke? If you want to make the case that it was conincidenve, please do

I didn't say the shoplifting had nothing to do with it in the quote of mine you used. I said he wasn't cut for shoplifting alone. I said that because he wasn't. His history and performance was a much bigger issue for him.

Nobody is asking them to "put up" with anything. Just have your facts before you release a guy for something he didn't do and try not to look like morons.

Like I asked earlier: When was the last time an NFL player had an arrest warrant out for him and the police had the wrong name? It is perfectly understandable that the team would hear that and say, he's gone anyway and this stuff keeps popping up... let's go ahead and cut him.

Not unreasonable at all.