Making or Keeping Cowboys Fans Happy

john van;3814667 said:
It's a shame the GM did not recgonize this and make the needed HC change after the 44 to 6 disaster to the E-girls.

That is the whole problem with this franchise, we don't have a real GM. Just an egomaniac pretending to be one.
 
2233boys;3815472 said:
That is the whole problem with this franchise, we don't have a real GM. Just an egomaniac pretending to be one.

That may be, but him stepping down would not stop fans from complaining. Cowboy fans are never happy, which I think is part of the point the OP was trying to make.
 
Hostile;3814002 said:
I think I have finally figured this out. All the Cowboys need to do to make and/or keep the fans happy is the following.

1. Win every game by covering the point spreads no matter how big.

2. Hire only the best coaches and have them committed to this team with no desire to become a Head Coach or Coordinator somewhere else and still not a be a puppet to the GM somehow.

3. Draft Pro Bowl caliber players in every round and somehow manage to keep all of them despite future drafts where we acquire more Pro Bowl caliber players, Free Agency, and a salary cap.

4. If we somehow miss on a Pro Bowl draft pick, trade him to someone else for their Pro Bowl player who will play here for less money because when we fart little rainbows fly out of our bum.

5. Win every Super Bowl.

I am quite fond of saying "learn the game." I think I finally have. This is fun.

LOL.

Hilarious.

Sadly true, but still hilarious.
 
ninja;3815471 said:
What a lame opening post. Is this a preemptive strike against Cowboy fans to protect his boy Garrett now that he is head coach? Is this a way to reduce the expectations since his puppy Garrett is the head coach now? We wouldn't want Garrett under pressure to win superbowls, now, would we?

Let's all just be happy that Garrett is the head coach and the team is somewhat competitive. Doesn't matter about winning and losing. Just enjoy the game. Garrett is the coach. Nothing is his fault. Don't worry, you can still blame it on Wade for the next two years if everything goes bad.


You mad bro?
 
cowboyeric8;3815525 said:
That may be, but him stepping down would not stop fans from complaining. Cowboy fans are never happy, which I think is part of the point the OP was trying to make.

Jerry is the problem. I know if he were gone, I would be a lot happier.
 
2233boys;3815466 said:
Every fan wants their team to win, no fans like it when they don't. They want the best coaches, best players, great drafts and Super Bowl Championships. Your over simplistic list is actually insulting to all fans, not just the ones you hope to poke fun at.

The problem with this Franchise stems from one person and one person only. The way to make Cowboys fans happy is simple. Jerry Jones needs to step down as GM, or die whichever comes first.
Hey, if you're insulted then I did a good job.

:rolleyes:
 
ninja;3815471 said:
What a lame opening post. Is this a preemptive strike against Cowboy fans to protect his boy Garrett now that he is head coach? Is this a way to reduce the expectations since his puppy Garrett is the head coach now? We wouldn't want Garrett under pressure to win superbowls, now, would we?

Let's all just be happy that Garrett is the head coach and the team is somewhat competitive. Doesn't matter about winning and losing. Just enjoy the game. Garrett is the coach. Nothing is his fault. Don't worry, you can still blame it on Wade for the next two years if everything goes bad.
Uh, no.
 
2233boys;3815468 said:
You are such a homer. They could be Moe, Larry, Curly and Shemp and you would be like Oh Hells YEAH!!!
Your diagnosis is wrong as usual. You don't know squat about me and couldn't prove me a homer with a gun in your hands.
 
2233boys;3815588 said:
Jerry is the problem. I know if he were gone, I would be a lot happier.

Well you are one person, not the fan base. And if the new GM did poorly I'm sure you would be right back on the kill Jerry wagon because he hired the guy.
 
cowboyeric8;3815618 said:
Well you are one person, not the fan base. And if the new GM did poorly I'm sure you would be right back on the kill Jerry wagon because he hired the guy.
I was firmly on the our GM sucks bandwagon when we were stuck with players like Quincy Carter, Troy Hambrick, and Shante Carver. But since 2002 we've done a better job of acquiring talent in FA and the Draft. As good as any other team in the NFL. I find it really stupid to hate a GM who has been a part of acquiring Miles Austin, Tony Romo, Jason Witten, DeMarcus Ware, Jay Ratliff and a host of other talented players.

But that's just me. I think Matt Millen and Vinny Cerato were total morons as GMs. If they could get us that kind of talent I'd support them. I think Bill Polian and Ozzie Newsome are the two best GMs in the NFL. If they got us Hambrick's and Dixon's I'd be disgusted.

Every GM hits and misses. It baffles me that so many people don't get that.
 
Hostile;3815625 said:
II find it really stupid to hate a GM who has been a part of acquiring Miles Austin, Tony Romo, Jason Witten, DeMarcus Ware, Jay Ratliff and a host of other talented players.

Did you seriously just type that?!?!?!

I mean really? Was that you, hostile? Your own fingers on the keyboard. Wow.

For the 10,000th time Jerry Jones gets ZERO credit for the acquisition of Romo and Austin. He didn't draft them. He was not the one with a discerning eye. Never. No way. Nada.

Jerry didn't draft them, didn't trade for them, didn't give them a wheel barrow of money.

And even once acquired he helped bury them on the bench.

And without those two players--whom Jerry was LUCKY enough to get--the franchise would have had a .500, or more likely a losing record over the past five seasons.
 
T-RO;3815664 said:
Did you seriously just type that?!?!?!

I mean really? Was that you, hostile? Your own fingers on the keyboard. Wow.

For the 10,000th time Jerry Jones gets ZERO credit for the acquisition of Romo and Austin. He didn't draft them. He was not the one with a discerning eye. Never. No way. Nada.

Jerry didn't draft them, didn't trade for them, didn't give them a wheel barrow of money.

And even once acquired he helped bury them on the bench.

And without those two players--whom Jerry was LUCKY enough to get--the franchise would have had a .500, or more likely a losing record over the past five seasons.

Right, because Miles Austin was such a big factor in 2006, '07, and '08.
 
We know beyond any shadow of a doubt that Jones didn't see substantial talent in Romo and Austin.

If he had he never would have risked them getting drafted by someone else through 7 full rounds. And he certainly wouldn't have risked them becoming complete free agents--something that any undrafted player inherently is.

Subtract the undrafted free agents over the past five years and then give Jerry a grade. He gets an F.
 
The Emperor;3815667 said:
Right, because Miles Austin was such a big factor in 2006, '07, and '08.

I was talking 80% about Romo.

This league is all about quarterbacks and Jerry has done a dandy job with that, giving us Quincy, Hutchison, Testaverde, Bledsoe, Brad Johnson, Anthony Wright, Ryan Leaf and the illustrious Clint Stoerner.

Actually giving Jerry an F is generous.
 
T-RO;3815672 said:
I was talking 80% about Romo.

This league is all about quarterbacks and Jerry has done a dandy job with that, giving us Quincy, Hutchison, Testaverde, Bledsoe, Brad Johnson, Anthony Wright, Ryan Leaf and the illustrious Clint Stoerner.

Actually giving Jerry an F is generous.

Who would you hate if Jerry Jones didn't own the Cowboys and they did so well?
 
Oh my gosh, the silliness hit epic proportions. Someone tap the brakes.
 
Hostile;3815608 said:
Your diagnosis is wrong as usual. You don't know squat about me and couldn't prove me a homer with a gun in your hands.

Proof is in the posts homer.
 
2233boys;3815742 said:
Proof is in the posts homer.

I'm certain you've taken the time to look through all 91,000+ of them to make sure he was NEVER critical.

:rolleyes:

Give it a rest. Everyone wants a shot at the title...and everyone loses.
 
T-RO;3815668 said:
We know beyond any shadow of a doubt that Jones didn't see substantial talent in Romo and Austin.

If he had he never would have risked them getting drafted by someone else through 7 full rounds.
And he certainly wouldn't have risked them becoming complete free agents--something that any undrafted player inherently is.

Subtract the undrafted free agents over the past five years and then give Jerry a grade. He gets an F.


So does Belicheat get credit for Brady in rd 6? Sure if he had any idea how great he'd be, he'd never have waited so long.

Now can you see how idiotic this statement is?

RFAs are players Jones/Cowboys orginization targeted and sold on coming to Dallas. They "count" as much as draft picks. Perhaps more when you consider we have to convince these guys to come here over other teams.

Can't slice and dice it anyway you like just to fit your agenda. At least not if you're attempting to be objective here.
 
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