Making or Keeping Cowboys Fans Happy

[Kalyan]

Great Post, I totally agree with getting the process right and increasing our chances and luck will come along too

I grew up in NY and really got into sports at an early age at 5 years old. But I'm talking *really* *got* *into* sports. Like my favorite toys being baseball (and football) cards. Reading NFL and MLB almanacs and stuff. I could barely read and do math, but I figured out things like what a good batting average is and if Joe Montana threw 3 times as many TD's as INT's, that's why he was so great.

By the time I was 12 years old, my dad would bring me down to the newstand at the local mall and buy me the DMN, which was usually 1-2 days late, so I could follow the Cowboys there and I always liked to read sports columnists (at that time, when guys were more like Blackie Sherrod and less like Bill Simmons)

Man, I thought there were some writers who were vicious in NY going after Steinbrenner and the Yanks. But these guys in Dallas made the NY Yankee beat writers look like they were sedated. And the letters from the fans, you'd think the Cowboys were the worst organization that ever possibly existed.

Eventually CowboysZone came along and I knew what to expect. Calvin Hill once said to the effect 'if we score 2 TD's in a quarter, they complain that we didn't score 3 TD's. If we score 3 TD's in a quarter, they complain that we didn't score 4 TD's. If we score 4 TD's in a quarter, they complain that we didn't score them in the fan's section of the end zone.'

Part of that is the appeal to me as a Cowboys fan. I think fans having high expectations is a good thing because typically the ownership has to comply with those high expectations.

However, we can't get too down on some of these fans. Hey, this team for the most part hasn't done jack since its last Super Bowl. And I'm not talking 'we haven't won a Lombardi since our last Super Bowl', I'm talking we can't even really come close to making the NFC Championship game, much less making the Super Bowl, much less winning a Lombardi type of jack squat.

Personally, I believe the process of going about to win a Lombardi is more important than anything else. If you get the process 'right', there's a great chance you will *not* win the Lombardi. But if you get the process right time after time, you've increased your chances and that to me is the best way to get another Lombardi.

A lot of it is luck though. Personally, I think the Patriots got lucky. They almost cut Brady for good at one point and had Bledsoe starting for them. Then Bledsoe gets injured...and Bledsoe pretty much never got injured in his career, and Brady turns into Lou Gehrig. And they cheated as well and when they got caught, the commissioner covered it up for them. As much as I didn't care that much for Tagliabue, I think he would've done more about it and would not have covered it up.

The Saints got lucky. No matter what they try to tell you, Drew Brees was going to be a Dolphin. But he didn't pass their physical and went to the Saints because that was his only option to be a starter. Furthermore, if he never suffered that labrum injury, there's a good chance the Chargers keep him and then trade him and the Saints probably could not make that trade or would not have been able to re-build their roster.

Then there's the Eagles. They draft Kolb and it really irks McNabb. They actually bench McNabb in '08 and try Kolb who is so bad that they immediately get McNabb back to starting. Then they trade McNabb and try to start Kolb again, over Vick and Kolb looks awful again and gets injured, so they are forced to start Vick who blossoms...but they had no intention of starting Vick over Kolb until Kolb got hurt.

We haven't been that lucky for the most part outside of Miles Austin. We took Romo from UDFA list, sat him and developed him for 4 years and we prepared for him to take over mid-season in 2006 with the thought that Bledsoe was done with. We were right about it in the end and because Romo was prepared to start, he turned into the QB he was today. Far cry from the Eagles, Pats and Saints, who basically made the wrong decision and were committed to that wrong decision and an injury happened and that turns everything around for them.

My hope is that we get lucky with Garrett. I don't think Jerry was sold on Garrett coming into this season and during the season when Wade was HC. But we were left with no choice but to fire Wade and make Garrett the interim coach and Garrett did a great job as interim coach. Maybe we get lucky and pull a similar situation with Garrett as the Saints did with Brees, the Pats did with Brady and the Eagles did with Vick. And if I could pull that stuff with a HC or a QB, I'd take the HC.







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[Apollo Creed]

It's my place to recognize what it is realistic and what is not. Making a statement that predicts the future as fact is not realistic.

Bottom line is everyone has complaints, I dont agree with everything the Cowboys do but I'm able to find enjoyment from being a Cowboys fan. If you take a snap shot over the last month or so of every post he has made you will find 90% of them are somehow negative and derogatory towards the Cowboys.

What I dont understand is you have something in life that causes you so much misery and pain and you struggle to find anything positive to say about it why continue to let it engulf you?

I think many posters who are viewed as negative actually have informed and intelligent views and then there are the select few who have taken on the roll of drama queen and are so caught up in it that they are trapped in this stigma that does not allow them to create rational thoughts or opinions any more.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/search.php?searchid=795458

Meh.

 

[Hostile]

I love Hos' stuff but I didn't particularly care for this piece.

The only problem I ever have with your posts is the shadows who know they can come behind you and take shots because they lack the balls to ever debate me.

I can't even begin to tell you how many times I have heard about me defending Jerry Jones at every turn. That is such a load of crap. I have been excited about the spawn of Buddy coming here? I have been happy about Campo for all these years? I am happy about the loss of Ray Sherman?

Oh, those things don't count. How convenient. But I'm blind?

That's rich.

 

[cowboyeric8]

Wow, thread designed for humor turned into people getting butt-hurt because they feel they were being pointed out when I'm pretty sure the OP was pointing at all of us. In the mean time these fans showed exactly who they are. Haha.

Only on cowboyszone :laugh2:

 

[Hostile]

Wow, thread designed for humor turned into people getting butt-hurt because they feel they were being pointed out when I'm pretty sure the OP was pointing at all of us. In the mean time these fans showed exactly who they are. Haha.

Only on cowboyszone :laugh2:

Thank you for getting it. I clearly poked fun at everyone.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

This thread has caused me great butt hurt. I demand retribution!

 

[cowboyeric8]

This thread has caused me great butt hurt. I demand retribution!

Me too!!!

 

[tupperware]

What are examples of season ending results during the aforementioned period which would have been acceptable to you?

I know this isn't directed towards me but..

I don't know that there is such a thing for me. It's not like in any given year where we miss the Superbowl I'll be happy about it. As far as what's acceptable, I'd like to see us contend, as in at the very least sniff an NFC championship. We've been how many years now without one? I don't want to put a hard limit on it, but as far as season by season goes, the expectations get higher and higher as the drought continues and so does the frustration.

As far as threads and posts are concerned, in my mind:

Calling out the team on something, or some move or something I agree or disagree with, fine.

Calling out fans for any reason, ehm, off topic?

But I realize both the "kool aid drinkers" and the "realists" both do this back and forth, so you can't point the finger at any one person, I just think it's dumb. That's not to say that I haven't called out someones way of thinking but I don't recall starting a thread for the purposes of it.

 

[Hostile]

I know this isn't directed towards me but..

I don't know that there is such a thing for me. It's not like in any given year where we miss the Superbowl I'll be happy about it. As far as what's acceptable, I'd like to see us contend, as in at the very least sniff an NFC championship. We've been how many years now without one? I don't want to put a hard limit on it, but as far as season by season goes, the expectations get higher and higher as the drought continues and so does the frustration.

As far as threads and posts are concerned, in my mind:

Calling out the team on something, or some move or something I agree or disagree with, fine.

Calling out fans for any reason, ehm, off topic?

But I realize both the "kool aid drinkers" and the "realists" both do this back and forth, so you can't point the finger at any one person, I just think it's dumb. That's not to say that I haven't called out someones way of thinking but I don't recall starting a thread for the purposes of it.

My problem with the "realists" is that they aren't. I heard 16 straight years of "being right" and I have 16 years of "hope" today.

That is a load of horse dung. Let me tell you why.

No one is right when they predict a non Super Bowl winner. If you want to impress me, tell me that you have predicted 16 straight Super Bowl winners. Then I am going to ask to see the Vegas payoffs, because they can't do that.

There are 32 football teams. 31 of them will not win the Super Bowl. 31 divided by 32 is 97%.

The "realists" will never predict a Super Bowl winner because they have only a 3% chance of being right. It'll never happen. Believe me I have tried. They hide behind 2 very poor excuses.

"I only care about the Cowboys."

"I hope I am wrong."

You said contender. That is what you want. I agree. So do I. 2007 we were a contender. We fell. 2010, you're telling me the Patriots were not a contender? I don't buy that. Not from you, nor any other poster. The Patriots are lauded as a model franchise, and rightfully so.

Contenders lose. In 2009 we were a contender. Do you deny this? If so then you are lying to yourself. Our record in 2009 is the exact same record as the Jets and look where they are.

Contenders lose. The sooner a "realist" can accept that, the better.

I hate losing, but I hate a losing attitude more. That is what I go after, not other posters. You said calling out fans. Who did I name? Is it my fault people feel guilty and confess? I don't hate the posters, but I do hate some of their attitudes.

Tell me why I shouldn't. I am a Dallas Cowboys fan. That means something to me. Do you know why this forum was created? Because years ago on a Sporting News forum Cowboys fans had nowhere to go to escape the derision of other fans. So Reality, the site owner here, created our previous home thecowboys.net. Software upgrades and other factors led us to change names and create this forum.

Has the purpose changed? Not from where I sit. There is huge difference now, and I bet you all of the people who still exist from those days at the Sporting News would tell you the same thing. By the way, I am not one of those original posters. I came along a few years later and began running my mouth.

Do you know what that difference is? The attacks now come from within our own fanbase.

You are right in that both sides point fingers at the other. I will never deny this. I try and ride the fence, but I openly admit I lean towards the side of the "kool-aid drinkers." My reasoning is simple. They don't repulse me the same way Commanders, Eagles, and Giants trolls do.

I hate when a "kool-aid drinker" tells a fellow fan to go become a Steelers fan, or accuses them of being a Commanders fan because of where they live.

Be truthful, is there much difference in the attacks on the team? Do you feel like the "realists" sound different than a Commanders troll? If so, tell me how.

I see a thread about our fans booing Tony Romo and my reaction is disgust. I don't even want to read that thread. It has nothing to do with Tony Romo or defending him either. I know the same redundant tripe I will hear. I've heard it for years.

Our fans hold our team to standards no team can live up to. That includes me by the way. That is what this thread is about. Make no mistake about that.

But where you are dead wrong is in judging that I have called out people. No sir, I have called out attitudes and tactics and if the people who do those things don't like it they have 2 choices. Stop doing it, or move on. This is a Dallas Cowboys forum and it was created so Cowboys fans didn't have to put up with abuse from other teams fans.

There are plenty of people who will read that last sentence and interpret it wrong and say I am saying you either have to be a "kool-aid drinker" or don't post. That isn't what I am saying at all. Some of my favorite posters are self proclaimed "realists." Especially when they can stay on topic and not martyr themselves. The problem is, the latter option has become far more common with them.

I didn't ask for a any confessions. They were volunteered. How is that my fault? How is that condescending as I was accused of earlier? That is asinine.

That is like me saying, "ugly people stink" and you saying "I do not." Exact same principle. So anyone who got their panties in a wad and butt hurt has only their own guilty conscience to blame.

 

[casmith07]

Or just play smart. Ill take a loss like the Packers game where they just were outclassed over a loss like the Saints game where they just made mistakes anyday.

You got sucked.

 

[SSGMIKE]

how about not taking trip to Mexico during the playoffs?

6. Never wear ballcaps backwards.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

10. Sing the praises of billboard investing and "covert undercover" boycotts.

Dayum, you took my funny.

 

[sonnyboy]

My problem with the "realists" is that they aren't. I heard 16 straight years of "being right" and I have 16 years of "hope" today.

That is a load of horse dung. Let me tell you why.

No one is right when they predict a non Super Bowl winner. If you want to impress me, tell me that you have predicted 16 straight Super Bowl winners. Then I am going to ask to see the Vegas payoffs, because they can't do that.

There are 32 football teams. 31 of them will not win the Super Bowl. 31 divided by 32 is 97%.

The "realists" will never predict a Super Bowl winner because they have only a 3% chance of being right. It'll never happen. Believe me I have tried. They hide behind 2 very poor excuses.

"I only care about the Cowboys."

"I hope I am wrong."

You said contender. That is what you want. I agree. So do I. 2007 we were a contender. We fell. 2010, you're telling me the Patriots were not a contender? I don't buy that. Not from you, nor any other poster. The Patriots are lauded as a model franchise, and rightfully so.

Contenders lose. In 2009 we were a contender. Do you deny this? If so then you are lying to yourself. Our record in 2009 is the exact same record as the Jets and look where they are.

Contenders lose. The sooner a "realist" can accept that, the better.

I hate losing, but I hate a losing attitude more. That is what I go after, not other posters. You said calling out fans. Who did I name? Is it my fault people feel guilty and confess? I don't hate the posters, but I do hate some of their attitudes.

Tell me why I shouldn't. I am a Dallas Cowboys fan. That means something to me. Do you know why this forum was created? Because years ago on a Sporting News forum Cowboys fans had nowhere to go to escape the derision of other fans. So Reality, the site owner here, created our previous home thecowboys.net. Software upgrades and other factors led us to change names and create this forum.

Has the purpose changed? Not from where I sit. There is huge difference now, and I bet you all of the people who still exist from those days at the Sporting News would tell you the same thing. By the way, I am not one of those original posters. I came along a few years later and began running my mouth.

Do you know what that difference is? The attacks now come from within our own fanbase.

You are right in that both sides point fingers at the other. I will never deny this. I try and ride the fence, but I openly admit I lean towards the side of the "kool-aid drinkers." My reasoning is simple. They don't repulse me the same way Commanders, Eagles, and Giants trolls do.

I hate when a "kool-aid drinker" tells a fellow fan to go become a Steelers fan, or accuses them of being a Commanders fan because of where they live.

Be truthful, is there much difference in the attacks on the team? Do you feel like the "realists" sound different than a Commanders troll? If so, tell me how.

I see a thread about our fans booing Tony Romo and my reaction is disgust. I don't even want to read that thread. It has nothing to do with Tony Romo or defending him either. I know the same redundant tripe I will hear. I've heard it for years.

Our fans hold our team to standards no team can live up to. That includes me by the way. That is what this thread is about. Make no mistake about that.

But where you are dead wrong is in judging that I have called out people. No sir, I have called out attitudes and tactics and if the people who do those things don't like it they have 2 choices. Stop doing it, or move on. This is a Dallas Cowboys forum and it was created so Cowboys fans didn't have to put up with abuse from other teams fans.

There are plenty of people who will read that last sentence and interpret it wrong and say I am saying you either have to be a "kool-aid drinker" or don't post. That isn't what I am saying at all. Some of my favorite posters are self proclaimed "realists." Especially when they can stay on topic and not martyr themselves. The problem is, the latter option has become far more common with them.

I didn't ask for a any confessions. They were volunteered. How is that my fault? How is that condescending as I was accused of earlier? That is asinine.

That is like me saying, "ugly people stink" and you saying "I do not." Exact same principle. So anyone who got their panties in a wad and butt hurt has only their own guilty conscience to blame.

That's what ticks me off more than anything. Its the trolls on this board who can't be Cowboy fans.

Critical fan my ***. No fan can look at every move, every decision as a mistake. Take the negative view every single time. ** on a positve OP with a negative comment every single ****ing time.

Then hide behind the critical realist fan who has the right to negaive with less than ideal results.

 

[DeaconBlues]

My problem with the "realists" is that they aren't. I heard 16 straight years of "being right" and I have 16 years of "hope" today.

That is a load of horse dung. Let me tell you why.

No one is right when they predict a non Super Bowl winner. If you want to impress me, tell me that you have predicted 16 straight Super Bowl winners. Then I am going to ask to see the Vegas payoffs, because they can't do that.

There are 32 football teams. 31 of them will not win the Super Bowl. 31 divided by 32 is 97%.

The "realists" will never predict a Super Bowl winner because they have only a 3% chance of being right. It'll never happen. Believe me I have tried. They hide behind 2 very poor excuses.

"I only care about the Cowboys."

"I hope I am wrong."

You said contender. That is what you want. I agree. So do I. 2007 we were a contender. We fell. 2010, you're telling me the Patriots were not a contender? I don't buy that. Not from you, nor any other poster. The Patriots are lauded as a model franchise, and rightfully so.

Contenders lose. In 2009 we were a contender. Do you deny this? If so then you are lying to yourself. Our record in 2009 is the exact same record as the Jets and look where they are.

Contenders lose. The sooner a "realist" can accept that, the better.

I hate losing, but I hate a losing attitude more. That is what I go after, not other posters. You said calling out fans. Who did I name? Is it my fault people feel guilty and confess? I don't hate the posters, but I do hate some of their attitudes.

Tell me why I shouldn't. I am a Dallas Cowboys fan. That means something to me. Do you know why this forum was created? Because years ago on a Sporting News forum Cowboys fans had nowhere to go to escape the derision of other fans. So Reality, the site owner here, created our previous home thecowboys.net. Software upgrades and other factors led us to change names and create this forum.

Has the purpose changed? Not from where I sit. There is huge difference now, and I bet you all of the people who still exist from those days at the Sporting News would tell you the same thing. By the way, I am not one of those original posters. I came along a few years later and began running my mouth.

Do you know what that difference is? The attacks now come from within our own fanbase.

You are right in that both sides point fingers at the other. I will never deny this. I try and ride the fence, but I openly admit I lean towards the side of the "kool-aid drinkers." My reasoning is simple. They don't repulse me the same way Commanders, Eagles, and Giants trolls do.

I hate when a "kool-aid drinker" tells a fellow fan to go become a Steelers fan, or accuses them of being a Commanders fan because of where they live.

Be truthful, is there much difference in the attacks on the team? Do you feel like the "realists" sound different than a Commanders troll? If so, tell me how.

I see a thread about our fans booing Tony Romo and my reaction is disgust. I don't even want to read that thread. It has nothing to do with Tony Romo or defending him either. I know the same redundant tripe I will hear. I've heard it for years.

Our fans hold our team to standards no team can live up to. That includes me by the way. That is what this thread is about. Make no mistake about that.

But where you are dead wrong is in judging that I have called out people. No sir, I have called out attitudes and tactics and if the people who do those things don't like it they have 2 choices. Stop doing it, or move on. This is a Dallas Cowboys forum and it was created so Cowboys fans didn't have to put up with abuse from other teams fans.

There are plenty of people who will read that last sentence and interpret it wrong and say I am saying you either have to be a "kool-aid drinker" or don't post. That isn't what I am saying at all. Some of my favorite posters are self proclaimed "realists." Especially when they can stay on topic and not martyr themselves. The problem is, the latter option has become far more common with them.

I didn't ask for a any confessions. They were volunteered. How is that my fault? How is that condescending as I was accused of earlier? That is asinine.

That is like me saying, "ugly people stink" and you saying "I do not." Exact same principle. So anyone who got their panties in a wad and butt hurt has only their own guilty conscience to blame.

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

A few folks in this thread might need to consult:

since they seemingly take great pleasure in bearing

this for their oppressed "realist" brethren.

 

[tupperware]

My problem with the "realists" is that they aren't. I heard 16 straight years of "being right" and I have 16 years of "hope" today.

That is a load of horse dung. Let me tell you why.

No one is right when they predict a non Super Bowl winner. If you want to impress me, tell me that you have predicted 16 straight Super Bowl winners. Then I am going to ask to see the Vegas payoffs, because they can't do that.

There are 32 football teams. 31 of them will not win the Super Bowl. 31 divided by 32 is 97%.

The "realists" will never predict a Super Bowl winner because they have only a 3% chance of being right. It'll never happen. Believe me I have tried. They hide behind 2 very poor excuses.

"I only care about the Cowboys."

"I hope I am wrong."

You said contender. That is what you want. I agree. So do I. 2007 we were a contender. We fell. 2010, you're telling me the Patriots were not a contender? I don't buy that. Not from you, nor any other poster. The Patriots are lauded as a model franchise, and rightfully so.

Contenders lose. In 2009 we were a contender. Do you deny this? If so then you are lying to yourself. Our record in 2009 is the exact same record as the Jets and look where they are.

Contenders lose. The sooner a "realist" can accept that, the better.

I hate losing, but I hate a losing attitude more. That is what I go after, not other posters. You said calling out fans. Who did I name? Is it my fault people feel guilty and confess? I don't hate the posters, but I do hate some of their attitudes.

Tell me why I shouldn't. I am a Dallas Cowboys fan. That means something to me. Do you know why this forum was created? Because years ago on a Sporting News forum Cowboys fans had nowhere to go to escape the derision of other fans. So Reality, the site owner here, created our previous home thecowboys.net. Software upgrades and other factors led us to change names and create this forum.

Has the purpose changed? Not from where I sit. There is huge difference now, and I bet you all of the people who still exist from those days at the Sporting News would tell you the same thing. By the way, I am not one of those original posters. I came along a few years later and began running my mouth.

Do you know what that difference is? The attacks now come from within our own fanbase.

You are right in that both sides point fingers at the other. I will never deny this. I try and ride the fence, but I openly admit I lean towards the side of the "kool-aid drinkers." My reasoning is simple. They don't repulse me the same way Commanders, Eagles, and Giants trolls do.

I hate when a "kool-aid drinker" tells a fellow fan to go become a Steelers fan, or accuses them of being a Commanders fan because of where they live.

Be truthful, is there much difference in the attacks on the team? Do you feel like the "realists" sound different than a Commanders troll? If so, tell me how.

I see a thread about our fans booing Tony Romo and my reaction is disgust. I don't even want to read that thread. It has nothing to do with Tony Romo or defending him either. I know the same redundant tripe I will hear. I've heard it for years.

Our fans hold our team to standards no team can live up to. That includes me by the way. That is what this thread is about. Make no mistake about that.

But where you are dead wrong is in judging that I have called out people. No sir, I have called out attitudes and tactics and if the people who do those things don't like it they have 2 choices. Stop doing it, or move on. This is a Dallas Cowboys forum and it was created so Cowboys fans didn't have to put up with abuse from other teams fans.

There are plenty of people who will read that last sentence and interpret it wrong and say I am saying you either have to be a "kool-aid drinker" or don't post. That isn't what I am saying at all. Some of my favorite posters are self proclaimed "realists." Especially when they can stay on topic and not martyr themselves. The problem is, the latter option has become far more common with them.

I didn't ask for a any confessions. They were volunteered. How is that my fault? How is that condescending as I was accused of earlier? That is asinine.

That is like me saying, "ugly people stink" and you saying "I do not." Exact same principle. So anyone who got their panties in a wad and butt hurt has only their own guilty conscience to blame.

I actually agree with a lot of this, but my only question is, why not just disallow that type of posting? I mean if it's borderline troll, and I will admit now I've seen some posters where I wonder if they're even Cowboy fans because I never see anything positive at all, why not just ban them?

That's not to question the methods in which you guys do things here and I'm not sure if it's wanted or not. I know controversy is popular and probably brings more people in then it turns away, but why not just strike or get rid of the users who make it apparent that they're not Cowboy fans or they are trolls.

I can think of a few posters right now who masquerade as Cowboy fans but I'm not sure at all how they think others see them as Cowboy fans.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Sherman has been considered one of the best WR coaches in the game for years. How is that stupid?

And yet if you said we should move on from Ray Sherman you would get called a whiner

 

[Hostile]

I actually agree with a lot of this, but my only question is, why not just disallow that type of posting? I mean if it's borderline troll, and I will admit now I've seen some posters where I wonder if they're even Cowboy fans because I never see anything positive at all, why not just ban them?

That's not to question the methods in which you guys do things here and I'm not sure if it's wanted or not. I know controversy is popular and probably brings more people in then it turns away, but why not just strike or get rid of the users who make it apparent that they're not Cowboy fans or they are trolls.

I can think of a few posters right now who masquerade as Cowboy fans but I'm not sure at all how they think others see them as Cowboy fans.

The simple answer is, that is not who we are or what we do.

Depending upon who you ask we either have a great reputation or a horrible one. We are either too strict, or too lenient.

I'm not joking. I have had my rear end chewed out by people who think we let posters go too far and I have had my rear end chewed out by posters who think we have too many rules.

It simply amplifies the fact that not all of us see things exactly the same way. But let me amplify something another poster said. Make no mistake about it, there are poster on this forum who revel in Cowboys criticism and failure. Every single negative thing they can say about this team and players, they will. You will rarely hear them say anything positive.

Last year there was one poster who would skip days before posting if the Cowboys won. If they lost it was always the same night that he was online posting.

How are people supposed to interpret that? That he is merely a fan frustrated by 15 years of losing? That was his story. That is an absolute crock of bull crap.

If you are a Cowboys fan and you cannot be excited by a 3 game sweep of the Eagles then why do you like the Cowboys? Please don't tell me that attitude didn't exist, because I know better. I saw posters disappear until we lost to the Vikings, and wa la...here I am in all my bitter glory frustrated by 15 years.

I was born at night but it was not last night. It is real easy to spot someone who never defends this team or players. They are welcome here, but you know what, it's their own pathetic fault that people call them on their agendas. Oh they'll blame the other faction of fans but the truth is they've exposed themselves and are transparent.

Truth be told I do not have a problem with negativity towards the team or a player by anyone, with one proviso. Don't let that be your ONLY agenda and try to tell me that you "really hope you are wrong."

That insults my intelligence.

 

[Hostile]

And yet if you said we should move on from Ray Sherman you would get called a whiner

Uh, that's a joke. Until Ray Sherman was released by the team (for lack of a better description of his dismissal) no one wanted him gone. I've been a little shocked by people who suddenly dislike him. I still respect him very much and am shocked by the move. I did not see anyone calling for his release and being called a whiner. Not one person.

 

[tupperware]

The simple answer is, that is not who we are or what we do.

Depending upon who you ask we either have a great reputation or a horrible one. We are either too strict, or too lenient.

I'm not joking. I have had my rear end chewed out by people who think we let posters go too far and I have had my rear end chewed out by posters who think we have too many rules.

It simply amplifies the fact that not all of us see things exactly the same way. But let me amplify something another poster said. Make no mistake about it, there are poster on this forum who revel in Cowboys criticism and failure. Every single negative thing they can say about this team and players, they will. You will rarely hear them say anything positive.

Last year there was one poster who would skip days before posting if the Cowboys won. If they lost it was always the same night that he was online posting.

How are people supposed to interpret that? That he is merely a fan frustrated by 15 years of losing? That was his story. That is an absolute crock of bull crap.

If you are a Cowboys fan and you cannot be excited by a 3 game sweep of the Eagles then why do you like the Cowboys? Please don't tell me that attitude didn't exist, because I know better. I saw posters disappear until we lost to the Vikings, and wa la...here I am in all my bitter glory frustrated by 15 years.

I was born at night but it was not last night. It is real easy to spot someone who never defends this team or players. They are welcome here, but you know what, it's their own pathetic fault that people call them on their agendas. Oh they'll blame the other faction of fans but the truth is they've exposed themselves and are transparent.

Truth be told I do not have a problem with negativity towards the team or a player by anyone, with one proviso. Don't let that be your ONLY agenda and try to tell me that you "really hope you are wrong."

That insults my intelligence.

Yeah I get that, for sure. I think the real tightrope is allowing some newer members or maybe members who don't post a lot post negatively without labeling them that way. That's not at you, that's in general. I'm sure it'd be easy to say it about a lot of posters who come across as negative and maybe are just voicing their opinion. I'm not really up to speed on every person who does nothing but post negatively but I know a few.

I'll admit, sometimes I expect the worst and vocalize it. I'm sure I've done it in game day threads before. Like as soon as something happens I just felt like it would or I expect the worst. That's probably the fault of my thinking process more than anything directly related to the Cowboys. But I definitely try and see the positives, at all times. I'm happy about the Garrett hiring, even if I've been critical in the past. I'm just glad the team is going in a new direction. I'm sure some fans aren't even pleased by a new direction.