Man, I hope they ditch the salary cap...

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I am so sick of this watered down, pansy, go from 5-11 to SB champs in one year league. It just isnt the same. This game was so much more fun when every year you knew it was going to be Dallas or SF to win the title, or in the 70s you knew it would be Dallas or Pittsburgh. In the 80s, you knew it was going to be either the Commanders or 49ers. Now, every single team has at least a small shot going into every season.

I miss seeing teams that could go 3-4 deep at some positions and still have pro-bowl caliber players. I miss teams that had superstars at every position on the field. I miss players flocking to the teams with the best owners who were willing to shell out the big bucks. I miss players staying with one team for their entire career. I miss having to build your team through the draft and trades.

I just watched a SB in which both teams that played would not have finished above .500 in the pre-salary cap days. Hell, its been that way for years now. If the NFL knows whats best for it, It'll ditch the cap and never look back.
 

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I hate baseball.

That's what the NFL will turn into without a cap.

FA has ruined sports. Yes, it's "right" in a free enterprise system. But it ruins sports.

Teams should be able to build through their skill in drafting and trading.

I know the Cowboys would be one of the largest players in the FA market without a cap. But I don't believe that even JJ would be able to compete against Snyder and the NY teams.
 

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the biggest mistake the NFL made was league expansion...
adding the Ravens, Jaguars, Panthers, and Texans diluted the league by another 260 players.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
I am so sick of this watered down, pansy, go from 5-11 to SB champs in one year league. It just isnt the same. This game was so much more fun when every year you knew it was going to be Dallas or SF to win the title, or in the 70s you knew it would be Dallas or Pittsburgh. In the 80s, you knew it was going to be either the Commanders or 49ers. Now, every single team has at least a small shot going into every season.

I miss seeing teams that could go 3-4 deep at some positions and still have pro-bowl caliber players. I miss teams that had superstars at every position on the field. I miss players flocking to the teams with the best owners who were willing to shell out the big bucks. I miss players staying with one team for their entire career. I miss having to build your team through the draft and trades.

I just watched a SB in which both teams that played would not have finished above .500 in the pre-salary cap days. Hell, its been that way for years now. If the NFL knows whats best for it, It'll ditch the cap and never look back.

so you wnat a garunteed winner in teh SB and big blow out? I thought you got a good SB that was played defensively well....but you want a gaurunteed win and a blow out.....cause a well schemed chess game bores you?
 

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Bizwah said:
I hate baseball.

That's what the NFL will turn into without a cap.

FA has ruined sports. Yes, it's "right" in a free enterprise system. But it ruins sports.

Teams should be able to build through their skill in drafting and trading.

I know the Cowboys would be one of the largest players in the FA market without a cap. But I don't believe that even JJ would be able to compete against Snyder and the NY teams.

I don't think you understand: Getting rid of the cap would also require getting rid of FA, otherwise its pointless to do. Reset the league back to 1994.
 

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as great as it would be for the Boyz, it would be just like baseball where the Yankees always gets the best players and i don't want that. But i gotta admit its frustrating watching these sorry *** teams winning SB's
 

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ShiningStar said:
so you wnat a garunteed winner in teh SB and big blow out? I thought you got a good SB that was played defensively well....but you want a gaurunteed win and a blow out.....cause a well schemed chess game bores you?

Chess is boring as Hell. I want 2-3 GREAT teams, 2-3 very good teams, and a whole lotta bad teams. Thats what the league was before the cap and FA: Several great/good teams that were dynasties and the rest who were trying to get there.
 

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why not just ask for the list of the winners ahead of time and save yourself the time?
 

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I thought we lived in the "Land of the Free." bunch of fascists:rolleyes:
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
If the NFL knows whats best for it, It'll ditch the cap and never look back.
That is exactly why they won't ditch the salary cap. The churning of super bowl winners the last 10 years keeps interest up around the league. Teams and fans all know they have a chance in any year. Even this year who would have given the Steelers any chance of winning the super bowl just 2 months ago?
 

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ELDudearino said:
I thought we lived in the "Land of the Free." bunch of fascists:rolleyes:

Its the land of the free if you can afford it...get with the program....
 

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big dog cowboy said:
That is exactly why they won't ditch the salary cap. The churning of super bowl winners the last 10 years keeps interest up around the league. Teams and fans all know they have a chance in any year. Even this year who would have given the Steelers any chance of winning the super bowl just 2 months ago?

The highest SB ratings in history were BEFORE the cap and FA. But hey, dont let facts and logic get in the way of your arguement. :rolleyes:

Not only that, but ratings are WAY down from 1994 and before.
 

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ghst187 said:
the biggest mistake the NFL made was league expansion...
adding the Ravens, Jaguars, Panthers, and Texans diluted the league by another 260 players.

I totally agree with you. The problem with todays NFL is lack of depth. If one key player is injured you can pretty much hang it up. If you look at the two teams today, you'll notice that they were virtually injury free( with the exception of Hamlin who banged his head on a street sign). That said, I believe that those of you that want to see a capless NFL are assuming that Jerry would just take all the money he has under his mattress and sign away. I'm not so sure about that. There are more owners now willing to spend than when he first got in this game.
 

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How about having half a cap....say players that you draft dont count against your cap or players that you've signed and have been on your team for more than 3 years....or SOMETHING like that....have some restrictions but no set $$ you can go over. So there are restrictions from going out and signing every good FA while also rewarding teams for drafting well. So if you draft players who become stars, you can always have the money to keep them. I dont really like the hard cap number but dont like the yankee scenario either.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
The highest SB ratings in history were BEFORE the cap and FA. But hey, dont let facts and logic get in the way of your arguement. :rolleyes:

Not only that, but ratings are WAY down from 1994 and before.
I don't follow the rating that closely. BUT........the proliferation of cable and satellite television has undercut broadcast ratings somewhat in recent years, the game is still so popular that a number of networks actually schedule original programming to offset the super bowl.
 

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I don't follow the rating that closely. BUT........the proliferation of cable and satellite television has undercut broadcast ratings somewhat in recent years, the game is still so popular that a number of networks actually schedule original programming to offset the super bowl.

Since the cap came into effect, only 1 SB, the 1996 game between Dallas and Pittsburgh, has gotton a higher network rating than 44. In contrast, in the 29 SBs before the cap, the SB rating broke 44 16 times.

Just to show how bad SB ratings have become, SB 5 in 1971, yes, 1971, had a network rating nearly 5 points higher than SB 39 in 2005. 5 points in network ratings = millions of viewers

Now, I'm not expert, but if a game in 1971, a time in which nearly a 4th of all households in this country didnt even own a television, can get higher ratings than a SB in 2005, a time in which 9 of every 10 households in this country own a televsion, something is wrong. That something is parody.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
I don't think you understand: Getting rid of the cap would also require getting rid of FA, otherwise its pointless to do. Reset the league back to 1994.

I guess I did misunderstand.....but what you're wanting would have to be hypothetical only.

Remember, the NFLPA "won" FA. I believe the courtcase was Freeman McNeil vs. the NFL.

FA won't be taken away.....ever......

I agree with several other posters. Have some kind of "modified" cap. Players you draft wouldn't count as much against the cap. A team that drafts well should not be penalized.....as we were early in FA.
 

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Bizwah said:
I guess I did misunderstand.....but what you're wanting would have to be hypothetical only.

Remember, the NFLPA "won" FA. I believe the courtcase was Freeman McNeil vs. the NFL.

FA won't be taken away.....ever......

I agree with several other posters. Have some kind of "modified" cap. Players you draft wouldn't count as much against the cap. A team that drafts well should not be penalized.....as we were early in FA.

I know it probably wont happen, but its nice to dream....
 

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big dog cowboy said:
the proliferation of cable and satellite television has undercut broadcast ratings somewhat in recent years, the game is still so popular that a number of networks actually schedule original programming to offset the super bowl.

Thank you wikipedia!:rolleyes:
 

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I think it is safe to say that the 2005 Stealers are the worst NFL Champion ever: 11-5 in a bad division that they didn't even win, 6th seed, and got hot at the right time- the 2000 Ravens would have schooled them like there was no tomorrow and the 1993 Cowboys would have beaten them into utter submission- 63-3 or something along those lines, and only because the third string was put in late in the second.
 
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