Man shot outside stadium has died

[DogFace]

To start... the laws already on the books don't work or aren't being enforced. When someone shouldn't pass a background check but does because someone else entered their data wrong, the system is broke.

First of all there is a powerful lobby that fights even basic controls. The recent mass shooter passed his background checks.

 

[JoeKing]

Of course he will. But how does that stop the next killing?

Haven't millions been punished before? Then why do we still have thousands die each year. Including the massacre of children. Guess it's just a necessary evil.

We live in a free society. If someone wants to run over you with their car, they can. But you don't see talk about more car control.

 

[DogFace]

We live in a free society. If someone wants to run over you with their car, they can. But you don't see talk about more car control.

No. Because we don't see thousands of people doing that each year. Nor do we see someone drive into a school and massacre children with their car. If that happened it would be a reasonable discussion.

 

[JoeKing]

First of all there is a powerful lobby that fights even basic controls. The recent mass shooter passed his background checks.

Should he have passed a background check, though? Could that process be improved so that he would have been identified and not pass the check? Was there signs he should not have a firearm?

 

[DogFace]

We live in a free society. If someone wants to run over you with their car, they can. But you don't see talk about more car control.

Can I buy a nuclear bomb? Apache helicopter? Abrams tank? M-60? Fully auto M-16?

So it's not really a free country I guess.

 

[JoeKing]

No. Because we don't see thousands of people doing that each year. Nor do we see someone drive into a school and massacre children with their car. If that happened it would be a reasonable discussion.

You think more people in the US are killed each year by guns than cars?

 

[DogFace]

Should he have passed a background check, though? Could that process be improved so that he would have been identified and not pass the check? Was there signs he should not have a firearm?

see "powerful lobby" comment. And see those who back it.

 

[DogFace]

You think more people in the US are killed each year by guns than cars?

Poor argument. Cars are necessary to our way of life and they are rarely intentionally used to kill.

 

[JoeKing]

Can I buy a nuclear bomb? Apache helicopter? Abrams tank? M-60? Fully auto M-16?

So it's not really a free country I guess.

So you give examples of things that we are prohibited from getting and that makes your argument for gun control how?

 

[DogFace]

You think more people in the US are killed each year by guns than cars?

By your argument we should consider have medical care control to curb deaths related to medical care.

 

[JoeKing]

see "powerful lobby" comment. And see those who back it.

You mean the lobby that fights for constitutional promises.

 

[DogFace]

So you give examples of things that we are prohibited from getting and that makes your argument for gun control how?

Where is the line drawn? The constitution says right to bear arms.

 

[DogFace]

You mean the lobby that fights for constitutional promises.

Arms is what it says.

 

[big dog cowboy]

That's probably enough for now.