Manningham not as slow

[ThatsmyQB]

Read on footballs future he ran a a 4.39 at his pro day on a slow track!

If he's there middle round 2, I'd trade up to get him, I really like him and would be GREAT VALUE!
Especially if we go for a big W.R. like Hardy in round 1.
I'd like to get Romo a future #1 and a speed slot guy for the rest of his career NOW to grow together and not have to worry about W.R. for a long time!

 

[silverbear]

Read on footballs future he ran a a 4.39 at his pro day on a slow track!

If he's there middle round 2, I'd trade up to get him, I really like him and would be GREAT VALUE!
Especially if we go for a big W.R. like Hardy in round 1.
I'd like to get Romo a future #1 and a speed slot guy for the rest of his career NOW to grow together and not have to worry about W.R. for a long time!

I have better hands than Manningham has...

 

[SDogo]

Read on footballs future he ran a a 4.39 at his pro day on a slow track!

If he's there middle round 2, I'd trade up to get him, I really like him and would be GREAT VALUE!
Especially if we go for a big W.R. like Hardy in round 1.
I'd like to get Romo a future #1 and a speed slot guy for the rest of his career NOW to grow together and not have to worry about W.R. for a long time!

How the hell does a guy go from running a time in the 4.6 to running a sub 4.4 in just a few weeks?

Either way, I agree with Silver. I don't care if he ran a 4.1 or 5.0, if a WR can't catch the ball he won't have a chance to use that speed.

 

[Avery]

Hand-timed 40?

 

[dbair1967]

I have better hands than Manningham has...

and I asked this on another thread, other than the Ohio St game (which was played in the rain) when did he drop alot of balls?

Almost every draft guide or write up on him I've seen says he has good hands, but sometimes doesnt concentrate. Andhe isnt a body catcher either, which is a plus.

I've seen him play a number of times in his 3yrs there, and it seemed he was always making plays and a highlight film grab here or there

David

 

[ThatsmyQB]

How the hell does a guy go from running a time in the 4.6 to running a sub 4.4 in just a few weeks?

Happens all the time, slow start, off day, etc., they only run twice, and we're talking .2 of a second, which is a blink of an eye!
I don't believe he ran 4.6 either, He was in the hgh 4.5 range I believe off the top of my head.

Either way, I agree with Silver. I don't care if he ran a 4.1 or 5.0, if a WR can't catch the ball he won't have a chance to use that speed

You're agreeing with someone who has no idea what he's talkin about though, Manningham has very good hands!

 

[ThatsmyQB]

and I asked this on another thread, other than the Ohio St game (which was played in the rain) when did he drop alot of balls?

Almost every draft guide or write up on him I've seen says he has good hands, but sometimes doesnt concentrate. Andhe isnt a body catcher either, which is a plus.

I've seen him play a number of times in his 3yrs there, and it seemed he was always making plays and a highlight film grab here or there

David

Don't listen to ne guy who doesn't know what he's talkin about Manningham has good hands, he doesn't have a clue what he's talkin about!
Her'es a quick scoutign report from NFL draft countdown!


Wide Receiver | Junior | Michigan
Mario ManninghamHeight: 5-113/4 | Weight: 181 | 40-Time: 4.60

Official Bio

Strengths:
Excellent speed with a burst...Very elusive in the open field...A great route runner who gets good separation...Excellent hand-eye coordination...Terrific body control and ball skills...Exceptional leaping ability...A true deep threat who can stretch the field vertically...Quick and agile...Very productive and consistent...He will pluck the ball out of the air with his hands and make the acrobatic catch....Has a history of making a play when it matters the most...Offers some value as a return specialist.

Weaknesses:
Undersized and lacks the ideal bulk that you look for...Durability is a concern..He's not very physical and needs to get stronger...Not real tough and doesn't work the middle of the field much...Has some trouble when jammed at the line...Is not much of a blocker...Didn't see much action as a return man in college...Character issues.

Notes:
Cousin of former Michigan All-American and NFL offensive lineman Bubba Paris...He caught 27 touchdown passes in 34 career college games (one every five catches) and the vast majority of his scores were from 20 yards out or longer...Suspended for a game in 2007 for violating a team rule...A smooth, polished wideout who has everything you look for except ideal size..A dynamic offensive weapon who should be an excellent pro as long as he can stay healthy and keep his head on straight.

 

[TheCount]

Hand-timed 40?

Yeah, by his agent.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

Yeah, by his agent.

Yep, it was just him and his agent with no one else looking on with their own stop watch, they just made up a number and passed it off as if he really ran it!

 

[SDogo]

You're agreeing with someone who has no idea what he's talkin about though, Manningham has very good hands!

I'm agreeing with him not because of anything he has said and done but because from what I have seen and other's that I talk to despite having a good "triangle" for a WR his lack of concentration has caused him to drop passes at key times. I never seen a reason to believe he will drop the tough pass but if you watch enough film you will find more then a few Patrick Crayton moments on his resume.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

I'm agreeing with him not because of anything he has said and done but because from what I have seen and other's that I talk to despite having a good "triangle" for a WR his lack of concentration has caused him to drop passes at key times. I never seen a reason to believe he will drop the tough pass but if you watch enough film you will find more then a few Patrick Crayton moments on his resume.

That's not how I took this comment!

Either way, I agree with Silver. I don't care if he ran a 4.1 or 5.0, if a WR can't catch the ball he won't have a chance to use that speed.

Sounded like you were saying he's got stone hands!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm agreeing with him not because of anything he has said and done but because from what I have seen and other's that I talk to despite having a good "triangle" for a WR his lack of concentration has caused him to drop passes at key times. I never seen a reason to believe he will drop the tough pass but if you watch enough film you will find more then a few Patrick Crayton moments on his resume.

TO loses concentration and drops passes too, just food for thought

and alot of players refuse to run at the Combine, only to do it at their Pro Day, or workout there, is because they are comfortable in that environment, which is why you see players increase their workout numbers, plus they get a couple of extra, more weeks to workout and improve

 

[SDogo]

That's not how I took this comment!



Sounded like you were saying he's got stone hands!

More like he loses concentration on what should be easy receptions that would allow him to use his "speed" but will make the highlight film catches.

Yes, I put speed in parenthesis. lol

 

[SDogo]

TO loses concentration and drops passes too, just food for thought

and alot of players refuse to run at the Combine, only to do it at their Pro Day, or workout there, is because they are comfortable in that environment, which is why you see players increase their workout numbers, plus they get a couple of extra, more weeks to workout and improve

Yes he does and how nice would it be to not have to hold your breath every time the ball is thrown his way. lol

 

[burmafrd]

Every game I have watched Manningham in (about 6-7) he has dropped at least one ball. Sure TO drops them but he makes a lot more plays then Manningham EVER has.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

Every game I have watched Manningham in (about 6-7) he has dropped at least one ball. Sure TO drops them but he makes a lot more plays then Manningham EVER has.

We talkin normal drops?
Like Crayton when he shoudl of had a 70 yarder or what not against the Giants, or off his fingertips and what not?
Cause from what I've seen he's got very good hands and catches the ball with his HANDS and not his body.

 

[silverbear]

That's not how I took this comment!



Sounded like you were saying he's got stone hands!

OK, maybe it's not his hands but his concentration that's more to blame for his problems... it's still the same result, he drops too many passes he should be catching... and in the NFL, a WR who's inconsistent catching the ball generally doesn't find himself getting a lot of reps...

 

[silverbear]

Every game I have watched Manningham in (about 6-7) he has dropped at least one ball. Sure TO drops them but he makes a lot more plays then Manningham EVER has.

I've seen him play 2 or 3 games, and it's the same for me... I've even heard the announcers comment on it, leading me to believe it's a problem he's had in games I didn't see, too...

Beyond that, he's more or less a one season wonder, having put up just 65 catches in 22 games played in his first two seasons... when you read comments about him not being real physical, not being willing to work the middle of the field, and having a hard time getting off the jam, you start to think he sounds like a faster Brandon Lloyd...

Here's a sentence from NFL Draft Dog that sums him up nicely, IMO:

He loses concentration sometimes when getting pushed around and is a little hesitant to go over the middle, at this stage he may purely be a sideline/deep threat.

I was being playful when I said I have better hands than he has (though I do have really good hands, LOL), the point I was making is that although he's capable of making the highlight reel grab, he's way too prone to dropping what should be fairly easy catches... if he does that a time or two or three in preseason games, coaches are not going to give him much of a role in the offense come the regular season...

I just don't think that Mario will be a particularly good receiver in the NFL... he gets compared to Terry Glenn on the Cowboys boards, but his game is much more limited than Glenn's is, and his consistency catching the ball is nowhere near Terry's either...

He ranks somewhat lower on my draft boards than he does on most of the experts', I'll give you that...

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I think Devon Thomas from Michigan State might be a better pro prospect...

 

[TheCount]

I think Devon Thomas from Michigan State might be a better pro prospect...

How is that? One productive year and good numbers at the combine? I don't know that Manningham will be a better pro, but people are going gaga over Thomas' combine and projecting him like he's a sure fire pick when he literally had 9 catches the year before this one.