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Manny Lawson was on serious about 30 minutes ago. I didnt catch the whole interview but he is very bright and well spoken. He was offered a basketball scholarship from Davidson out of highschool but chose to play football. My favorite part of the interview was when Manny said that he could see himself high fiving Demarcus Ware after sacking the quarterback.

I love it!!
 

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Cornish83 said:
Manny Lawson was on serious about 30 minutes ago. I didnt catch the whole interview but he is very bright and well spoken. He was offered a basketball scholarship from Davidson out of highschool but chose to play football. My favorite part of the interview was when Manny said that he could see himself high fiving Demarcus Ware after sacking the quarterback.

I love it!!

Wow.....i think i just wet myself thinking about that
 

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Thanks for that info.....I have been singing Lawson at #18 for two months now....but, I am scared he will go to Cleveland.
 

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they also asked him if they could look at one specific game where he was in coverage a lot what game would you say to look at??

He said look at my freshman year against Virginia where his responsibility was the tight end the whole game.....then they asked was that heath miller at tight end...he says Yes sir
 

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Cornish83 said:
Manny Lawson was on serious about 30 minutes ago. I didnt catch the whole interview but he is very bright and well spoken. He was offered a basketball scholarship from Davidson out of highschool but chose to play football. My favorite part of the interview was when Manny said that he could see himself high fiving Demarcus Ware after sacking the quarterback.

I love it!!

I chill just went up my spine, seriously
 

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Cornish83 said:
they also asked him if they could look at one specific game where he was in coverage a lot what game would you say to look at??

He said look at my freshman year against Virginia where his responsibility was the tight end the whole game.....then they asked was that heath miller at tight end...he says Yes sir

I don't know why coverage is such a big knock on him, he's only going to be a OLB, and at this point, he's better in coverage than Ware was a year ago this time, his pass-rush skills and athleticsm, speed, are undeniable, and should make him a top 15 pick, just hope he slides to 18
 

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I don't know why coverage is such a big knock on him, he's only going to be a OLB, and at this point, he's better in coverage than Ware was a year ago this time, his pass-rush skills and athleticsm, speed, are undeniable, and should make him a top 15 pick, just hope he slides to 18

Man if we could get him in the 1st and Jason Allen in the 2nd. An OL in the 3rd. Good draft. :bow:
 

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Thanks for that info.....I have been singing Lawson at #18 for two months now....but, I am scared he will go to Cleveland.

You should be. I've got Cleveland in the CZ Mock Draft tomorrow and "we" are targeting Ngata/Bunkley/Wimbley/Lawson, in that order, at #12, barring some unforseen slide of an elite pick. I don't expect the DTs to be there (Bills & Rams).

I think Dallas has a date with destiny in Carpenter, partly because Wimbley and Lawson don't figure to be options at #18, IMO.
 

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We have a strong chance at waiting out our 2nd round pick for Jason Allen because of his hip. But it's obvious he's still athletic enough to play the position based on his agility drill numbers (which were impeccable).

So if we did get Lawson and Allen, and then managed to get Davin Joseph or Charles Spencer and a Todd Watkins via trade with Ellis, I would die and go to Heaven.
 

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Cornish83 said:
Manny Lawson was on serious about 30 minutes ago. I didnt catch the whole interview but he is very bright and well spoken. He was offered a basketball scholarship from Davidson out of highschool but chose to play football. My favorite part of the interview was when Manny said that he could see himself high fiving Demarcus Ware after sacking the quarterback.

I love it!!

I'm not usually one to bring out the racist card, but this is an issue I actually looked into last year in detail so I try to at least point it out whenever I see it.

"Well Spoken" is one of those adjetives that is only applied to black players. It's essentially an insult wrapped in a compliment. Take two players (white and black) put them in an interview and have them say the exact same things. Assuming their responses are coherent, accurate, and moderately engaging the "scout" will apply the well spoken adjetive to the black players draft card. The White player is just meeting expectations.

Since when do we assume that white players can commincate and black players can't by default?

If he was impressive in his interview say he came off intelligent or thoughtful. That's what we'd say about a white player. If he just came off with an ability to speak correct English, don't insult the race by feeling the need to include that fact.

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On top of his unreal athletisism, I really like how Manny Lawson will be getting a degree in engineering and scored a 28 on the wonderlic.

The guys is brilliant and having a smart person (ala Dat) who can read formations, misdirections, trick plays and knowing how to take the right angles in persuit (like Dat was able to ) just solidifies my confidence that he would work out well as either the SOLB or WOLB.. and contrary to what people think, I DO think BP will have them swap sides often for misdirection.

Look that the Rams game when they Put D. Ware on the opposite side on a few plays.. he murdered that tackle who did not prepare for him.
 

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I'm not usually one to bring out the racist card, but this is an issue I actually looked into last year in detail so I try to at least point it out whenever I see it.

"Well Spoken" is one of those adjetives that is only applied to black players. It's essentially an insult wrapped in a compliment. Take two players (white and black) put them in an interview and have them say the exact same things. Assuming their responses are coherent, accurate, and moderately engaging the "scout" will apply the well spoken adjetive to the black players draft card. The White player is just meeting expectations.

Since when do we assume that white players can commincate and black players can't by default?

If he was impressive in his interview say he came off intelligent or thoughtful. That's what we'd say about a white player. If he just came off with an ability to speak correct English, don't insult the race by feeling the need to include that fact.

/rant

meh...no.

Troy is one of the most well-spoken athletes around. Just because he doesn't constantly go for the laughs


BTW, as with Zimmer, Payton doesn't sound like I expected.* He sounds like a tough, well-spoken football coach. Actually, wasn't Payton sort of a Jon Gruden protege at Philly? Sean sounds a lot like Chucky.


Emmitt is a smart guy, but not very well-spoken... I wish him luck, but I don't see him as being well-received...Woody, on the other hand, will do a great job...
 

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Cornish83 said:
they also asked him if they could look at one specific game where he was in coverage a lot what game would you say to look at??

He said look at my freshman year against Virginia where his responsibility was the tight end the whole game.....then they asked was that heath miller at tight end...he says Yes sir

He would also benefit from covering pro-bowl TE Jason Witten in practice everday. As a basketball player, I am sure he has enough athleticism and speed to stick with any TE in the NFL including monsters like Antonio Gates and soon-to-be TE Vernon Davis.

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You should be. I've got Cleveland in the CZ Mock Draft tomorrow and "we" are targeting Ngata/Bunkley/Wimbley/Lawson, in that order, at #12, barring some unforseen slide of an elite pick. I don't expect the DTs to be there (Bills & Rams).


I think Dallas has a date with destiny in Carpenter, partly because Wimbley and Lawson don't figure to be options at #18, IMO.

I doubt both Bunkley and Ngata will be gone by the time Cleveland picks. I have a strong feeling the Bills will take OT Winston Justice, so at least one of them should still be there at pick 12. If the Rams go after a CB or S then they both should be available...hopefully...
 

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playit12 said:
I'm not usually one to bring out the racist card, but this is an issue I actually looked into last year in detail so I try to at least point it out whenever I see it.

"Well Spoken" is one of those adjetives that is only applied to black players. It's essentially an insult wrapped in a compliment. Take two players (white and black) put them in an interview and have them say the exact same things. Assuming their responses are coherent, accurate, and moderately engaging the "scout" will apply the well spoken adjetive to the black players draft card. The White player is just meeting expectations.

Since when do we assume that white players can commincate and black players can't by default?

If he was impressive in his interview say he came off intelligent or thoughtful. That's what we'd say about a white player. If he just came off with an ability to speak correct English, don't insult the race by feeling the need to include that fact.

/rant


I don't think it's racist whatsoever using the term "well spoken". In my opinion, "well spoken" means not only to using grammer correctly, but speaking intelligently and thoughtfully.

I've used that term when referring to white, black, Asian, European, Christian, non-Christian (you get the picture) people equally.
 

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rexrobinson said:
On top of his unreal athletisism, I really like how Manny Lawson will be getting a degree in engineering and scored a 28 on the wonderlic.

The guys is brilliant and having a smart person

Well lets not get carried away now... 28 is good but quite a few levels below Brilliant. Mind you my major was a small one in College, but we all took the sample (and timed) Wonderlic and none of us scored below a 40. Still I like that he took on a challenging major and his score is higher than most on the team, so I'd consider it a plus.
 

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Woods said:
I don't think it's racist whatsoever using the term "well spoken". In my opinion, "well spoken" means not only to using grammer correctly, but speaking intelligently and thoughtfully.

I've used that term when referring to white, black, Asian, European, Christian, non-Christian (you get the picture) people equally.

Exactly, because you can have people from down south, who might have thick southern accent, and you might think they are not well spoken or don't have clarity when they talk. Even if someone doesn't have an accent or grammer etc. they can't explain as well as some can do.

Well Spoken doesn't just mean good grammer or complete sentences, but also getting your point across to people effectively.
 

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Woods said:
I don't think it's racist whatsoever using the term "well spoken". In my opinion, "well spoken" means not only to using grammer correctly, but speaking intelligently and thoughtfully.

I've used that term when referring to white, black, Asian, European, Christian, non-Christian (you get the picture) people equally.

I'm not saying that there aren't exceptions (some of which were provided above) just that last year when I tried to informally collect some sort of statistical anaylysis I found that the numbers were so heavily skewed to be considered very suspicious. I polled (I believe) three different websites that collected scouting reports on pre-draft players and measured the incidence of "well spoken" vs race in both the samples as a whole and for specific positions. Black players overwhemingly were given the tag compared to white players.

That you have a different definition of "well spoken" is fine and assuming it becomes consistent enough across scouts to be considered the norm in interpretation, that would be good. But I haven't found that to be the case, and considering the discrepencies in usuage, I think the numbers suggest that either a much greater percentage of black players entering the league are "speaking intelligently and thoughtfully" or that scouts aren't currently using it that way either.

(for those that would reply, It's what I think the word means and I'll use is that way, remember that English, unlike French, is a fluid language that is defined by it's standard usuage and not by an organized body. What most people think the word means is the best definition of what the word actually means.)

Perhaps in a few years I"ll take some time and rerun my searches on the then incomming draft class to see if things have changed.
 

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Well lets not get carried away now... 28 is good but quite a few levels below Brilliant. Mind you my major was a small one in College, but we all took the sample (and timed) Wonderlic and none of us scored below a 40. Still I like that he took on a challenging major and his score is higher than most on the team, so I'd consider it a plus.

Brilliant being a relative term for NFL prospects... I dont think anyone in the draft qualifies for mensa, but you have to remember they dont take those Wonderlic tests very serious unless your a QB, so I doubt he prepped for it at all. How many NFL players have earned a degree in engineering? Its just a relative term againt his peers at the OLB position.
 
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