CanadianCowboysFan;3337655 said:
Even the CBS announcers back on Selection Sunday said Dook had the easiest bracket. Kansas was the top overall seed and they had a brutal bracket. It was a benefit to Dook. Only a Dookie would not agree with that statement.
Kansas may have had a brutal draw, but they didn't get to the brutal part. Duke played much tougher foes than Kansas lost to.
To say well they beat the teams that beat this or that school etc is silly because that is like saying well No Iowa >>> Kansas because they beat them. Everyone would prefer to play No Iowa than Kansas. Just like it is obvious Kentucky would have been a tougher match up for Dook than West Virginia whose point guard was injured.
It's not silly. Aside from the 16 seeds, the other one seeds played the following teams: Northern Iowa, Gonzaga, Butler, Wake Forest, Cornell and West Virginia. Not exactly a murderer's row. It is not Duke's fault Villanova couldn't beat St. Mary's. And, as a one seed, Duke played the highest possible seed in each round except for Baylor (3), West Virgina (2) and Butler (5). I'm pretty confident in saying Baylor was the best 3 seed out there.
Kentucky may have been a tougher match up, maybe not. But Kentucky couldn't take care of their business. Duke blew out the team they couldn't beat.
As for Howard not getting fouls the other 30, he was on the bench most of the game. Zoubek wasn't.
Yet he played the last 10 minutes or so without a foul. And that includes the bail out call by the refs when they called Singler for a walk when Howard blocked him.
Heels won two of the previous five. They had a down year, it happens.
NIT's don't "happen." Not at Duke anyway.
Dook is losing three starters and possibly a fourth if Singler is smart and goes pro. After the tournament he had, he should leave early, his stock will not go up (and yes I thought Hansbrough should have gone after his junior year too). Smith is staying and you still will have the Plumlee boys, along with Dawkins and Curry the transfer plus some others coming in. Still though Dook will lose a lot this year, not as much as the Heels the year before, but quite a bit.
I don't know what Singler will do, but I have a feeling he'll go. I do think his stock stand to go up with another big year. As of now he's probably a late first to second rounder.
CanadianCowboysFan;3337663 said:
Of course they were bigger than others. The bad charge call took a possible three off the board from Butler, which was the difference in the game.
It's only bigger because you hate Duke, and you wanted them to lose. I thought the calls in favor of Butler were bigger. It's a matter of bias, not "of course."
The Baylor charge would have put Zoubek out of the game and given Baylor a bigger lead, and been going to the foul line.
We've been over and over this. Zoubek left the game 2 minutes later and got one rebound in the meantime. And Baylor lost their lead and regained it another time after that call. That call was not a "turning point," unless you're a Duke hater. And it certainly was not an egregious call.
You do not have to defend the Dookies to the death you know. You can admit those calls were two that could have gone either way but both of which went the Dookie way. Hell even CBS announcers which were pro Dook said those were bad calls.
And you don't have to whine about every call you think was in Duke's favor. I've admitted the calls could have gone either way... as it seems you are saying. If they could go either way, that doesn't sound like a "bad call." I think Clark Kellogg was in agreement with the Zoubek charge against Baylor and not on Scheyer's v. Butler.
Anyway, 2 championships and 3 FF since beginning of 2004-2005 season >>> 1 FF and 1 championship since 2004-2005
Sure, you pick your arbitrary starting point, and I'll pick mine. Past 20 years, we have 4 titles, you have 3.
Our current coach has 4, yours has 2.
