Marinelli and his 1 Tech

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Marinelli is a huge fan of quick twitch athletes even at the 1 tech. Has the game passed him by?

His 1 tech players aren't sack machines by any stretch of the imagination. Wouldn't it be better to have a pocket collapsing behemoth inside? Vince Wilfork, Poe and others come to mind.

Why not get a guy who can command double teams and hold the point of attack and free up Malik to do his thing?
 
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Pocket collapsing DTs are the key to solid pass defense, don't need range, just push, should be able to snag a good one in the draft.
 
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Verdict said:
Marinelli is a huge fan of quick twitch athletes even at the 1 tech. Has the game passed him by?

His 1 tech players aren't sack machines by any stretch of the imagination. Wouldn't it be better to have a pocket collapsing behemoth inside? Vince Wilfork, Poe and others come to mind.

Why not get a guy who can command double teams and hold the point of attack and free up Malik to do his thing?
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The DT is the most important defensive player on the team but Cowboys use them only as a run stopper. The Cowboys are sitting at home because they did not have a pass rush up the middle for Green Bay. The Falcons pressured Rogers and he was in trouble all game. Until the Cowboys go after DTs that collapse the pocket to give the QB no place to go and stop the run we will only be fodder for the Green Bay Packers and others in the playoffs.
 
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rwalters31 said:
The DT is the most important defensive player on the team but Cowboys use them only as a run stopper. The Cowboys are sitting at home because they did not have a pass rush up the middle for Green Bay. The Falcons pressured Rogers and he was in trouble all game. Until the Cowboys go after DTs that collapse the pocket to give the QB no place to go and stop the run we will only be fodder for the Green Bay Packers and others in the playoffs.
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I wouldn't say that's why we lost. We pressured Rodgers plenty in the second half and came back in the game. Atlanta just took our second half gameplan. We lost because we had a terrible gameplan/preparation on defense.
 
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I wouldn't say that's why we lost. We pressured Rodgers plenty in the second half and came back in the game. Atlanta just took our second half gameplan. We lost because we had a terrible gameplan/preparation on defense.
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The Falcons only rushed 4 but they were in Rogers face the whole game. It makes a difference when you only have 2.5 seconds to make a play versus 7 seconds. The reason we had better play in the second half was we started to play press defense against the receivers. The Falcons played 5 secondary the whole game. Again, A good pass rush up the middle is worth a dozen 1st round picks in the secondary.
 
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I don'r think MCollins is used ony as a run stopper he did get 5 plus sacks.
We could use more talent on the D/line. I assume thats on the way.
Marinelli's sysytem works fine.His done a tremendous coaching job with the players his handed.
 
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rwalters31 said:
The DT is the most important defensive player on the team but Cowboys use them only as a run stopper. The Cowboys are sitting at home because they did not have a pass rush up the middle for Green Bay. The Falcons pressured Rogers and he was in trouble all game. Until the Cowboys go after DTs that collapse the pocket to give the QB no place to go and stop the run we will only be fodder for the Green Bay Packers and others in the playoffs.
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Falcons didn't get to Rodgers with superior talent on the DL. They basically brought a 5th rusher via the blitz through much of the first half.
 
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Wilfork and Poe really play the 3-4. And both are incredible athletes at that size that can penetrate.

I don't think this aspect of the game has passed Marinelli bye. I think the game plays more to what Marinelli has always done. Teams run less these days so you need a pass rusher instead of a run clogger. WE just don't have that superior talent at either the 3-tech or the 1-tech. But the DE's don't beat their guys either, so it's easier to pinch the A-gap and stop the DT's on the pass rush.




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The Falcons only rushed 4 but they were in Rogers face the whole game. It makes a difference when you only have 2.5 seconds to make a play versus 7 seconds. The reason we had better play in the second half was we started to play press defense against the receivers. The Falcons played 5 secondary the whole game. Again, A good pass rush up the middle is worth a dozen 1st round picks in the secondary.
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I saw 5/6 rushers. I won't continue the debate though. I blame coaches more than the talent. Besides Vic Beasley they don't have much on their line either
 
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We need so many new players on defense, maybe it's time to bring in a new DC so that he can build his unit from the ground up. We need somebody that will advocate for talent rather than someone that hides behind the fact that he's asked for none.
 
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Falcon's DL is extremely average. Other than Vic Beasley they really have nothing.
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You and I saw different things. However, the result was a complete beat down of the Packers. The article below has a good view point.
Falcons dominate Packers, advance to Super Bowl LI
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  • By Conor Orr
  • Around The NFL Writer
  • Published: Jan. 22, 2017 at 06:31 p.m.
  • Updated: Jan. 22, 2017 at 10:38 p.m.
For the first time since 1998, the Atlanta Falcons are going to the Super Bowl. Thanks to a beautifully dominant 44-21 beat down of the Green Bay Packers on Sunday at the Georgia Dome, Matt Ryan and Co. left no question as to which team was best. They'll face off with the New England Patriots in Super Bowl LI.

Here's what we learned...

1. After Green Bay's 11-second, three-and-out drive to start the second half, one which included a pair of drops from tight end Jared Cook, Falcons head coach Dan Quinn was caught in a moment of rare emotion on the sidelines. He was smiling ear-to-ear before snapping back into the typical blank coaching façade we've come to expect. In that moment, he likely confirmed his brightest wishes during halftime. The Falcons had bludgeoned the Packers for 30 minutes already, and the pounding would continue through the second half.

For a defensive-minded coach like Quinn, this is the scenario you wait for all season. One defensive coordinator I spoke to a few years back described it as hitting a baseball off a tee over and over. The opponent is down by multiple touchdowns in the second half, and you're free to pin the ears back on your best pass rushers and let them loose. More chaos. More turnovers. More mental errors from your clearly-rattled opponents. The Packers were leaning on keeper read options by Aaron Rodgers to gain any yards in the second half.

There is much to discuss about this offense in the coming paragraphs, but that moment, for me, embodied the type of team Quinn created. Their prolific scoring attack has been discussed ad nauseam, but this defense is beginning to be maddening for whichever opponent makes it out of the AFC.
 
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