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Trace1015;3859604 said:
Ran a 4.58 but coulda ran faster messed up towards the end

Same kind of time as Cam Newton... makes you think :)
 
Not too surprised. I don't think anyone thought he'd put up an impressive time.

Unfortunately, this will only aid in the Emmitt/Ingram comparisons.

I think he's a fine prospect that looks like a prototype AFC East/North type of running back.
 
realtick;3859608 said:
Not too surprised. I don't think anyone thought he'd put up an impressive time.

Unfortunately, this will only aid in the Emmitt/Ingram comparisons.

I think he's a fine prospect that looks like a prototype AFC East/North type of running back.

Even Faulk and Mayock said he reminded them a lot of Emmitt. Quickness, balance, ability to make people miss in the hole.
 
I was one of those that wanted Ray Rice a few years ago because he was the closest thing to Emmitt we had seen since he retired. Well this guy compares to him even more so it seems. I really think the Cowboys have to give him a strong look because Emmitt was probably more instrumental to the 3 superbowls than even Aikman or Irvin and we've already got two pro bowl wrs (dez at some point)and a pro bowl qb. The rbs are decent but have not given us the consistency that Emmitt did.
 
speedkilz88;3859644 said:
I was one of those that wanted Ray Rice a few years ago because he was the closest thing to Emmitt we had seen since he retired. Well this guy compares to him even more so it seems. I really think the Cowboys have to give him a strong look because Emmitt was probably more instrumental to the 3 superbowls than even Aikman or Irvin and we've already got two pro bowl wrs and a pro bowl qb. The rbs are decent but have not given us the consistency that Emmitt did.

Agree. A pure RB who can carry the load helps both sides of the ball. Your offense and your defense.

If Peterson isn't there I would love to have Ingram. I've watched every game he played in college as well as many practices and scrimmages. He is a clone of Emmitt and he has that same ultra competitive character.
 
Im not that intrigued or impressed with Ingram as some. I think u could get the same kind of serviceable back in the later rounds or UFA..................JMO


Plus we got Felix, if we fix the line watch out............with no line Ingram not gonna do nothing neither
 
realtick;3859677 said:
It would be the height of stupidity if we took Ingram.

Actually it would be complete stupidity not too look at him and give him very strong consideration. Here's the 3 reasons.

1) There are safeties and corners available via free agency
2) We can draft very good OL rounds 2-4
3) A move can and should be made with Barber/Choice and give us an extra pick.

I would love a one two punch of Ingram and FJones.
 
brooksey1;3859714 said:
Actually it would be complete stupidity not too look at him and give him very strong consideration. Here's the 3 reasons.

1) There are safeties and corners available via free agency
2) We can draft very good OL rounds 2-4
3) A move can and should be made with Barber/Choice and give us an extra pick.

I would love a one two punch of Ingram and FJones.

1) There are running backs available via free agency.

2) Really, that's just a given, huh? First, this is a weak OT crop and the "top" prospects are likely going to go higher then they should because of the lack of depth. This team has suffered/is suffering because of its refusal in invest 1st round picks into the offensive line. It's also suffered from making poor selections in the mid-rounds (2-4).

3) Any trade of MBIII/Choice is likely going to garner a mid-round pick at best.

4) You would be addressing a position of the least of need.

5) Taking a looksie at Ingram is smart and doing due diligence, such as would looking at Cam Newton, but the reality is wouldn't make much sense at all to draft either of them.
 
realtick;3859742 said:
1) There are running backs available via free agency.

2) Really, that's just a given, huh? First, this is a weak OT crop and the "top" prospects are likely going to go higher then they should because of the lack of depth. This team has suffered/is suffering because of its refusal in invest 1st round picks into the offensive line. It's also suffered from making poor selections in the mid-rounds (2-4).

3) Any trade of MBIII/Choice is likely going to garner a mid-round pick at best.

4) You would be addressing a position of the least of need.

5) Taking a looksie at Ingram is smart and doing due diligence, such as would looking at Cam Newton, but the reality is wouldn't make much sense at all to draft either of them.

I think you pretty much covered this topic. Oh well, on to the next one.;)
 
realtick;3859742 said:
1) There are running backs available via free agency.

2) Really, that's just a given, huh? First, this is a weak OT crop and the "top" prospects are likely going to go higher then they should because of the lack of depth. This team has suffered/is suffering because of its refusal in invest 1st round picks into the offensive line. It's also suffered from making poor selections in the mid-rounds (2-4).

3) Any trade of MBIII/Choice is likely going to garner a mid-round pick at best.

4) You would be addressing a position of the least of need.

5) Taking a looksie at Ingram is smart and doing due diligence, such as would looking at Cam Newton, but the reality is wouldn't make much sense at all to draft either of them.

FYI you win by scoring points. Even if your defense holds the other team to zero your offense has to score to win the game.

We dont have people who can score in the red zone. Another year of slant plays to RW and OC getting cute with play calls inside the 10 yd line would be sad. And NO felix, Choice, and Barber are not the answer even if they had the greatest line blocking. Some RBs just have a knack for scoring unfortunely we dont have one.
 
realtick;3859742 said:
1) There are running backs available via free agency.

Not an elite one in his prime or 21 like Ingram.

2) Really, that's just a given, huh? First, this is a weak OT crop and the "top" prospects are likely going to go higher then they should because of the lack of depth. This team has suffered/is suffering because of its refusal in invest 1st round picks into the offensive line. It's also suffered from making poor selections in the mid-rounds (2-4).

It's weak at the top as no blue chip types like Okung who not only have elite athletic ability but also had a dominating college career. The draft is pretty deep overall OL crop though. The 90s Cowboys didn't invest 1st round picks in the OL either. Tuinei, Newton were both UFAs. Stepnoski and E. Williams were hits in the 3rd but there were some misses like James Richards also. The OL was considered a weakness until Emmitt came along, then all of sudden they could play.

3) Any trade of MBIII/Choice is likely going to garner a mid-round pick at best.

Anything for MBIII would be gravy.

4) You would be addressing a position of the least of need.

With the production the Cowboys have gotten or lack thereof in this case. That is not true. The RBs on this team have been inconsistent to say the least.

5) Taking a looksie at Ingram is smart and doing due diligence, such as would looking at Cam Newton, but the reality is wouldn't make much sense at all to draft either of them.

Newton probably not since Romo is a pro bowl qb with at least a few more seasons and Newton is far from being a sure thing. If it were Andrew Luck it would be harder to argue and I say that because as much as I like Romo he's still no Troy Aikman.

And Felix, Tashard, and Marion are no where near an Emmitt. But Mark Ingram is.
 
realtick;3859742 said:
1) There are running backs available via free agency.

2) Really, that's just a given, huh? First, this is a weak OT crop and the "top" prospects are likely going to go higher then they should because of the lack of depth. This team has suffered/is suffering because of its refusal in invest 1st round picks into the offensive line. It's also suffered from making poor selections in the mid-rounds (2-4).

3) Any trade of MBIII/Choice is likely going to garner a mid-round pick at best.

4) You would be addressing a position of the least of need.

5) Taking a looksie at Ingram is smart and doing due diligence, such as would looking at Cam Newton, but the reality is wouldn't make much sense at all to draft either of them.

We are not selecting an OL in RD1 with the 9th pick. We will pick Defense or Ingram. There will be good picks available for OL in RD2. I think Ingram would be a terrific pick and a difference maker immediately. I'm not sold on our backfield except Felix in a limited role, which makes it a very big need that you not seeing. That's my opinion, we can agree to disagree.
 
Let's pretend we're picking from the 1990 nfl draft for this team. Do you want to take Richmond Webb (who incidentally was the 9th overall pick) or Emmitt Smith? Who makes a bigger impact? I'll take Emmitt.
 
When I think about all the holes are team has, RB isn't one of the bigger ones.

Ingram will average three yards a carry in our offense with our o-line. Chris Johnson wouldn't break four yards with our over-the-hill gang.
 
Anyone who thought he was a sub 4.5 guy going into this combine was crazy anyways... Straight line speed isn't the end all be all for a running back. His initial burst is what's more important. He was clocked in the first 10 with a 1.58 which is outstanding for a running back.
 
Avery;3859793 said:
When I think about all the holes are team has, RB isn't one of the bigger ones.

Ingram will average three yards a carry in our offense with our o-line. Chris Johnson wouldn't break four yards with our over-the-hill gang.

AGAIN you win by scoring points and we dont have people who can score alot. You draft a 21 yr old version of one of your best players in your history but instead let me go and draft an average at best RT or a DL who really doesnt generate alot of sacks in our new defense.
 
braw;3859830 said:
AGAIN you win by scoring points and we dont have people who can score alot. You draft a 21 yr old version of one of your best players in your history but instead let me go and draft an average at best RT or a DL who really doesnt generate alot of sacks in our new defense.

Offense wins games defense wins championships
 
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