Marrinelli Defense

[reddyuta]

It's fundamentally flawed.a defense which can't stop the run when we really need it is useless.

 

[Stryker44]

Does the Marrinelli defense remind anyone of the Flex Defense designed by Tom Landry in the regards of the bend but don't break concepts ? I'm starting to think this defense is outdated or on the fly changes are not incorporated.

Should never have let Kiffin go.

 

[Big D]

It's fundamentally flawed.a defense which can't stop the run when we really need it is useless.

I don't think it's flawed. The players in it are. If we had 4 beasts up front everything would be different.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Does the Marrinelli defense remind anyone of the Flex Defense designed by Tom Landry in the regards of the bend but don't break concepts ? I'm starting to think this defense is outdated or on the fly changes are not incorporated.

I don't think the scheme matters as much as playmakers. Dallas just does not have any on defense this season except maybe Jones and Hardy. They need more from their LBs, CBs and safeties, especially in coverage.

 

[gimmesix]

Are you saying Marinelli created the flex defense too?

This guy is like a white Will McClay.

I think he had something to do with the forward pass, too.

 

[TrailBlazer]

No defense is going to be very good with JJ Wilcox, Jeff Heath, and Barry Church playing prominent roles.

 

[gimmesix]

I don't think it's flawed. The players in it are. If we had 4 beasts up front everything would be different.

That's the primary flaw. Some defensive schemes can adjust to the strengths of its players. This one, under Marinelli at least, relies on the 3-tech and right end creating havoc. When that doesn't happen, it really doesn't have any counters.

I'm saying that as a fan of the scheme when it's working.

 

[Frosty]

I don't think the scheme matters as much as playmakers. Dallas just does not have any on defense this season except maybe Jones and Hardy. They need more from their LBs, CBs and safeties, especially in coverage.

Good post, Marrenelli is trying to work with what he has (that ain't much).... The one common thing I keep hearing over, and over from the ex cowboy players and media folks is this team has a LOW Football IQ.....the players are just not football smart...talented yes, but Football IQ is bad...so coaches have to keep the plan simple so they understand it and can make plays.

Bryon Jones is excelling in a basic system because this kid is smart, intelligent and picks up schemes quickly versus, Mo Claiborne that is considered to be a slow learning. Does talent trump football smarts? I will take football smarts with average to good talent anyway over highly talented and mentally slow.....IMO that is why the Patriots are contenders ever year with JAG players....and the Cowboys roll the dice on high risk talent and come up wondering why they don't get results.

You can win by playing smart football.

 

[reddyuta]

I don't think it's flawed. The players in it are. If we had 4 beasts up front everything would be different.

Whose fault is that? Is it Marinellis for playing shrubs like Hayden in prominent roles or the FO for it's continuing idiotic policy of ignoring D tackles in the draft.I said it before the season started that Hayden will detail our D and it has been worse than my prediction.Marinelli needs to fired now for his idiocy.

 

[reddyuta]

Good post, Marrenelli is trying to work with what he has (that ain't much).... The one common thing I keep hearing over, and over from the ex cowboy players and media folks is this team has a LOW Football IQ.....the players are just not football smart....so coaches have to keep the plan simple so they understand it and can make plays.

Bryon Jones is excelling in basic system because this kid is smart, intelligent and picks up schemes quickly versus, Mo Claiborne that is considered to be a slow learning. Does talent trump football smarts.....IMO that is why the Patriots are contenders ever year with JAG players....and the Cowboys roll the dice on high risk talent every year.

It's Marinellis fatal logic that anybody play 1tech for him.this has been proven for 3 seasons to be utter crap but we still fail to draft good Tackles in the draft and we have gone out of way to ignore them .

 

[Frosty]

It's Marinellis fatal logic that anybody play 1tech for him.this has been proven for 3 seasons to be utter crap but we still fail to draft good Tackles in the draft and we have gone out of way to ignore them .

I don't think its Marinelli fatal logic....I don't think he gets to shop for his groceries (pick his players). He gets to coach with what the team gives him....it ain't much...... like trying to teach math to someone that can't read....its a slow process and you got to keep teaching and HOPE sooner or later the players catch on......Wilcox is a prime example.....loved him as a rookie.....but maybe this cat just doesn't get it, not able to understand what it takes to play Safety....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Does the Marrinelli defense remind anyone of the Flex Defense designed by Tom Landry in the regards of the bend but don't break concepts ? I'm starting to think this defense is outdated or on the fly changes are not incorporated.

its mari-vanilla defense.

 

[Big D]

Whose fault is that? Is it Marinellis for playing shrubs like Hayden in prominent roles or the FO for it's continuing idiotic policy of ignoring D tackles in the draft.I said it before the season started that Hayden will detail our D and it has been worse than my prediction.Marinelli needs to fired now for his idiocy.

That's hard to say. Is he going into it saying "I can make this work with Hayden" or is he basically being relegated and forced to make it happen with Hayden. I tend to think if he was making the personnel decisions he'd bring someone else in.

 

[reddyuta]

That's hard to say. Is he going into it saying "I can make this work with Hayden" or is he basically being relegated and forced to make it happen with Hayden. I tend to think if he was making the personnel decisions he'd bring someone else in.

It's the FO mantra.they along with Marinelli don't believe in picking DTs high in the draft and the result has been disasterous.

 

[tm1119]

The seahawks, bengals, vikings and bucs run similar schemes.

Bucs yes, the other 3 run a variation of the 4-3, sure, but not like a Marinelli/Lovie defense. The other 3 run more of a 4-3 under with bigger D lineman and a SLB that is more of a "leo" and a blitzer. They also implement a lot of cover 3 where Marinelli stays with cover 2 a lot of the time.

 

[Frosty]

It's the FO mantra.they along with Marinelli don't believe in picking DTs high in the draft and the result has been disasterous.

I think the fault lies with the system they are trying to use...Stephen Jones is using a Moneyball type perspective in putting this team together....perfect example is why they let Demarco Murray walk....they have set a value for each position and trying to build the team around that..... There using using statistical analysis, and percentages as future indicators to build this team.... will it work....who knows it did in MLB just not sure its applicable to the NFL

 

[cowboys2233]

Should never have let Kiffin go.

LOL. Good one.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's fundamentally flawed.a defense which can't stop the run when we really need it is useless.

 

[gmoney112]

It's not really a pressure scheme. The "scheme", while showing warts, is fine, we just completely overrated our talent on defense.

With McClain underperforming, Hayden being Hayden, the void of talent at safety, Lee and Hitchens are about the only talent we have in the middle of the field. Hitchens, while a fine NFL LB, shouldn't be one of your more talented guys in the middle of your D. Doesn't help our best slot corner is out for the year, further complicating the mess.

Carr and Claiborne are "adequate", but nothing special. They don't produce TO's and aren't fitted to a zone defense that forces them. We have one guy in the secondary that can make a play on the ball.

We'be been playing a lot of cover-1 this season to play to Carr and Claibornes strengths, but the turnovers aren't coming. I do wonder if, with Romo coming back, they dont start playing a little more cover-2 and cover-3 like last year.

One thing's for sure. This off-season Carr is gone, Claiborne probably is unless he takes a friendly deal, and we'll be overhauling the secondary to find guys that can at least catch the ball when it hits them in the hands. I wouldn't be surprised if we signed a CB/S and then drafted another in the 1-2 round.

 

[SportsGuru80]

No defense is going to be very good with JJ Wilcox, Jeff Heath, and Barry Church playing prominent roles.

Jones is our one true playmaker as a rookie back there SMH