Marshawn Kneeland is Really Good

[jazzcat22]

He's really good after one game???

He had one really good game so far .... fixed it for you without sounding negative .... my thoughts for my 2nd "post of the day"

 

[gimmesix]

DLaw was a terrific passrusher when he was young I don't really get your point. He was never explosive enough to bend and capture the edge consistently, espeically later, and that's true for Kneeland.

My point is that other than an outlier, Lawrence has never been more than a 10-sack per season player (and he's only gone over 10 twice in nine seasons). Lawrence made himself into the player he is by redefining his body and developing his technical skills. I agree that he was never explosive enough to bend and capture the edge consistently. I don't believe that's true for Kneeland.

Go read draft profiles about him.

Draft Network: Power rusher with good twitch/bend and counter moves.

NFL.com: He’s a forceful rusher with a relatively simple game plan, but he does have enough bend to diversify somewhat.

Pro Football Network: Flashes good ankle flexion and bend when he’s able to get vertical space past the OT.

Kneeland comes from a smaller school and has a lot to learn, but the tools are there for him to become a top pass rusher in this game. That doesn't mean he will, but there's nothing holding him back physically.

 

[Jarntt]

Went back and watched his snaps.

I was kinda shocked. On limited snaps his production was extremely impressive. This is gonna sound a little weird but he looks like a mixture of DLaw with an added dash of Micah in their respective rookie debuts.

Dlaw was slow to come on as a rusher but played the run well. Micah was an excellent rusher from Lb and edge but struggled when they run at him. Kneeland seems to be as good against the run as Dlaw was, but has more juice (not quite Micah’s level) in his pass rush. I think this might be one of the most underrated hits in the draft by end of season.

I see him as a combo of Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White...

 

[Jarntt]

I don’t think long term he’s an end in this league. He looks like he can be a much better fit for us inside.

No no no. Why does everyone want to move DE's to DT? Have we not seen how bad that is with guys that are too small? Do what you want with him on passing downs because position doesn't really matter nowadays, but he is 267 lbs and he is a perfect Strong side DE in the NFL.

 

[Proof]

Just a cursive way to say he's a power rusher, basically, lol.

He's very strong at the POA to stack and shed blockers - which works well agains the run - but some players aren't athletic enough to turn that ability into a passrush. He seems to be.

got it thanks. encouraging!

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

When people compared him to Danielle Hunter I was intrigued. Through one game I definitely see it.

A home run hit by Zimmer on that one. I'll take a triple by Zimmer with Kneeland.

 

[reddyuta]

you cant watch this and not think he cant play DE,only thing he is missing is some pass rush moves especially some spin moves.

 

[Mikexike]

This kid is a stud, been saying it once he was drafted! he plays with power and knows how to set an edge.

Another plus is he had no bonehead penalties.

 

[Coogiguy03]

He had one really good game so far .... fixed it for you without sounding negative .... my thoughts for my 2nd "post of the day"

genius, now you see what you get the big bucks, and I get the crumbs!!!

 

[McMicah]

He actually does have good bend. That was one of the things in his corner when he was drafted, that he was a very toolsy player who just had to learn to use all of them. He doesn't have the speed and pure movement skills of Parsons, but he has the tools to be a better pass rusher than Lawrence.

This is exactly how I felt when writing the OP. Well said

 

[McMicah]

He's really good after one game???

Yes. Why is that taboo to say? I would say for most players you can see if their skillset is going to translate to the NFL level after a game. Some players take a couple years to show you, but some you see it in one game. Honestly a bunch of rookies showed they are players this first game. Beebe is already better than Biadisz, Guyton is going to be fine, Carson is easily going to be the best 4th corner in the league, and Kneeland looks better than Tank in his rookie debut.

All these guys look like hits, but I’m especially excited about Kneeland because DLineman usually take a long time to play well, and I honestly expected nothing from Kneeland this season

 

[RonWashington]

When people compared him to Danielle Hunter I was intrigued. Through one game I definitely see it.

High praise . Western Michigan spells great scouting .

 

[Nexx]

I love the Cameron Jordan comp

 

[MajesticRey]

A lot of overreaction to both wins and losses. Many games to go and a lot of work to be done by all teams.

I agree, a lot of very good football by a lot of young and talented players. Good and interesting fan stuff for a Cowboy fan to follow.

Are you surprised by our fanbase?

 

[gimmesix]

This is exactly how I felt when writing the OP. Well said

Whether he'll get to what he can be is the question, which is why he was a second-round pick. The numbers at Western Michigan show he had a ways to go to live up to his tool set, but he appears to be a hard worker and had a good starting point as a strong run end. I like the pass-rushing potential he showed in this game. It may not translate into many sacks this season, but I think he's got a lot to build on.

 

[darthseinfeld]

He's nothing like Micah because he's not going to bend around the edge but he's very similar to late-career DLaw.

His ability to turn play strength into passrush was pretty impressive and surprising.

The book on him as a rusher coming in was that until he added technique, he would have to get by on power and effort. He is a hair on fire type. He seemed farther along than that Sunday. And the guys he was playing arent garbage. Even Jones is a quality OT, and might be the best backup OT in the NFL

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

you cant watch this and not think he cant play DE,only thing he is missing is some pass rush moves especially some spin moves.

That video frustrated me with the arm tackles. We could’ve sacked Watson 10 times this game with better tackling technique

 

[CCBoy]

Are you surprised by our fanbase?

I played college ball and was an NCO for 19 years...no, you?

 

[speedkilz88]

DLaw was a terrific passrusher when he was young I don't really get your point. He was never explosive enough to bend and capture the edge consistently, espeically later, and that's true for Kneeland.

Broaddus claimed he didn't see the bend after the draft but since camp he's backtracked on that and said he's shown better bend than what he saw on tape.

 

[HungryLion]

Kneeland is doing well so far.

I’m a bit worried about his calf. Hopefully it’s not a calf injury that lingers. We already took one hit at DE depth. Can’t afford another one.