Martin to blame on GB fumble?

[big dog cowboy]

I never saw anyone point this out about peppers being martins guy on that play.

Discussed at length after the game. Randle would have scored on that play BTW.

 

[DandyDon52]

Discussed at length after the game. Randle would have scored on that play BTW.

Ok I did not know that, and randle might have scored, he is faster than murray and would have only had the safety to get by.
With a broken bone in his hand , I dont think murray should have played much in the playoffs, I would have started Randle and then if
Randle played good go with him, if not try dunbar , or then bring murray in.
Randle was fresh and a different style runner.
Garret chose to use a 1 handed RB.

 

[DandyDon52]

The Cowboys coach that block such that they want the defender to jump to the outside. They did it on a regular basis with Free blocking the outside defender. The play is designed such that the RB should be past the point of the outside defender having time to loop around the outside and get back inside.

The timing of the play was just a little bit off. Maybe that was on Murray or maybe Leary was delayed getting to his spot.

When they did it with Free, he often didn't really have to block, he just had to be in the way and his primary assignment was to make certain that the defender jumped outside and not inside (i.e. over-set his block to the inside).

Yes, the block by Martin was not absolutely perfect; however, when they draw up that play they are expecting the RB to be past that point by the time the outside defender can get back around.

The bottom line is that Murray has to hold on to the ball.

Run blocking is a dynamic event and the defenders are professionals also. Run blocking is rarely perfect.

Ok I go along with that, but what about Martin having his head down like that, and he seemed to be bent over too much.
If a player was blocking me, I could deal with that very easy as compared to him standing up looking at me and blocking higher.

And your point about timing is good, Murray slowed up trying to stay behind 65.
So was a combinations of things just a little off or wrong, lombardi used to say it was all about execution, and why he only had a few plays, but demanded they be run perfectly.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ok I go along with that, but what about Martin having his head down like that, and he seemed to be bent over too much.
If a player was blocking me, I could deal with that very easy as compared to him standing up looking at me and blocking higher.

And your point about timing is good, Murray slowed up trying to stay behind 65.
So was a combinations of things just a little off or wrong, lombardi used to say it was all about execution, and why he only had a few plays, but demanded they be run perfectly.

But there is still a massive hole there you could drive a truck through it. No doubt it was not some pancake block but it was a big hole to run through. I say this as a big fan of Murray and I don't blame him for the loss but the fumble is his no one else

 

[xwalker]

Ok I go along with that, but what about Martin having his head down like that, and he seemed to be bent over too much.
If a player was blocking me, I could deal with that very easy as compared to him standing up looking at me and blocking higher.

And your point about timing is good, Murray slowed up trying to stay behind 65.
So was a combinations of things just a little off or wrong, lombardi used to say it was all about execution, and why he only had a few plays, but demanded they be run perfectly.

He was bent over because he lunged to reach Peppers. Again, Martin's top priority is to prevent Peppers from getting back to the inside. He lunged to make certain Peppers didn't get to the inside.

Peppers is a 6-7 freak athlete with long arms and a ton of experience. You don't get a perfect block on those types of guys all the time. The key is to error in the direction that normally prevents the defender from getting back into the play. In this situation that meant Martin over-setting inside with the lunge to make certain that Peppers ended up outside.

Run blocking is often coached to make certain that a defender ends up in one direction or the other as opposed to trying to always make perfect blocks. This seemed especially true with Callahan as the OL coach. I can hear in my mind the basic coaching point that is probably made on that play in practice "whatever you do, don't let him get to the inside of your block".

The play does show one of the reasons that it's better to keep Martin inside at Guard than to move him outside to OT. Martin does not have great length (height, wing-span) for playing outside in space. He would have to work harder to play outside than a guy like Tyron who has a huge wing-span.

If you watch 1000 run plays, most likely you won't see many where all blockers got a perfect block. It's all about getting a "good enough" block. That's a big reason that it requires a commitment to the running game even when you're not having great success. The run game is about averaging out to a win, not about winning on any 1 specific play.

Fumbling on the other hand is a no-no under all circumstances.

Emmitt always said that if the blocking could get all but 1 defender, then it was his job to beat that final defender. Martin had Peppers about 3/4ths blocked and Murray only had about 1/4 of a defender to allude and he failed.

 

[Echo9]

I blame Julius Peppers

 

[5Stars]

I blame Julius Peppers

smh....Dude, it was Romo's fault.