Marty B's days could be numbered

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Sickwitit;3158902 said:
Ok let me start off with Marty B's stats last year, 20 catches for 283 yards and 4 TD's. this year Bennet has 15 catches for 159 yrds. With Bennet being 6'6'' and 265+ pounds with wr type speed, he is going to require more attention than Phillips who hasnt made any type of impact this year. which again brings me too my point he was probably the last guy that the saints prepared for. another thing to think about, how many of phillip's catches tonight were outstanding grabs?? NONE! they were 5-7 yard throws, in other words, check downs! there was no way that he was romo's primary target coming out of the huddle! Phillips didnt do anything that bennet couldnt have done. THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK MANE, or if you would like english professor man.


Thats more than Marty B has done all year......Go Homer another thread....big guy....Bennett is following D. Russell footsteps....getting passed up by 3rd stringers......
 

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Randy White;3158966 said:
Really ? You think that a guy who's played as much as he has so far is struggling mentally ?

Oh, wait, you probably think that blocking doesn't take much mental effort, huh ? That anybody could just line up on the LOS and just hit the guy in front of you and that's it. No reading defenses, no using different techniques for different plays, no adjusting to different defensive alignments, different calls at the LOS, none of that..

Just get on a 3 point stance and hit somebody.. Doesn't take much mental work...

Yes, he seems to struggle mentally. He consistently shows poor body language on the field and just flat out seems to be bored. He may be doing a fine job in the blocking part of the game, but there is a reason Romo doesn't look for him much in the passing game. He doesn't trust him. I don't trust him either. I could be wrong.
 

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Bennett even in college was always somewhat suspect at catching the ball. He's really athletic, a good blocker and can get open. He's still young so he'll only get better. I think it hurts him some that we have the best TE in the game because he can't play that much.
 

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links18;3158929 said:
Bennett may have a lot of physical talent, but he will always struggle with the mental aspect of the game, something it looks like Phillips understands.

Hes been out of alignment a couple of times this season, hes also made a bunch of excellent blocks and some great grabs along the way. Bennett probably had to learn more than anyone else on the offense during training camp.

Hes more or less being asked to do everything out there that Witten does, but while Witten has had 3 years under Garrett, Bennet has had only 2 and he wasn't asked to do all that much last year.

The guy is a beast in the making and I expect all of you to eat crow when he proves it.
 

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Cowboysfan570;3159368 said:
Hes been out of alignment a couple of times this season, hes also made a bunch of excellent blocks and some great grabs along the way. Bennett probably had to learn more than anyone else on the offense during training camp.

Hes more or less being asked to do everything out there that Witten does, but while Witten has had 3 years under Garrett, Bennet has had only 2 and he wasn't asked to do all that much last year.

The guy is a beast in the making and I expect all of you to eat crow when he proves it.

I'll gladly eat the crow if he develops as you believe he will. :bow:
 

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adbutcher;3158262 said:
These type of threads crack me up. When will they ever learn?

This.

Certainly right now, Bennett's stock value is low and it looks like we should have taken the trade. Heck, maybe he never proves worthy of a first round pick. But we've seen plenty of players who we (fans) were ready to give up on by Year 3 or 4 only to break out thereafter. Romo and Austin come to mind.

Oh, and Bennett is only in Year 2. So I have no problem waiting.
 

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links18;3159033 said:
Yes, he seems to struggle mentally. He consistently shows poor body language on the field and just flat out seems to be bored.

Well, that' s enough then.. Let's cut him. His " body language " ain't up to par and we all know that usually means a player is terrible.

Let's get somebody who's body speaks the right language instead..

He may be doing a fine job in the blocking part of the game, but there is a reason Romo doesn't look for him much in the passing game. He doesn't trust him. I don't trust him either. I could be wrong.

The reason why TR doesn't look much for him in the passing game is because there are about 7 other guys he has to look for first on most plays: Witten, Austin, RW, Crayton, and the running backs.
 

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for a first? no question.

If a player isnt contributed significantly right now, you trade him if a first is offered.

he sucks and it was dumb to keep him.

said it then. say it now.
 

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Randy White;3159466 said:
Well, that' s enough then.. Let's cut him. His " body language " ain't up to par and we all know that usually means a player is terrible.

Let's get somebody who's body speaks the right language instead..



The reason why TR doesn't look much for him in the passing game is because there are about 7 other guys he has to look for first on most plays: Witten, Austin, RW, Crayton, and the running backs.

Dude was supposed to be "creating mismatches," "working the seam" and a "red zone freak" this year. It hasn't happened. I'll eat the crow though if he gets better. :eek::
 

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RainMan;3159442 said:
Romo and Austin come to mind..


Hell, you don't even have to go far back. Just go back to this year's pre-season threads and check out how many people in here were begging the Jets to sign Austin just to get a 2nd round pick.

" He's been here for 3 years and he's always hurt. He drops alot of passes. " and my favorite " What has he done to deserve a 2nd round tender ? "..

Video Madden game mentality...

Your firs two receivers need to have 1,900yards and 40 TDs each. Your starting TE must have 1,400 yards and 20 TD, your 2nd string block TE needs to come in with a cool 800 yards and 12 TD, and that's without counting your three 1,200 yards RBs, each with 15 TDs rushing and 7 TD receiving.

and if TR is short of 115 TDs with 7,500 yards, well, then, let's get rid of him because his body language sucks.
 

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Randy White;3159479 said:
Hell, you don't even have to go far back. Just go back to this year's pre-season threads and check out how many people in here were begging the Jets to sign Austin just to get a 2nd round pick.

" He's been here for 3 years and he's always hurt. He drops alot of passes. " and my favorite " What has he done to deserve a 2nd round tender ? "..

Video Madden game mentality...

Your firs two receivers need to have 1,900yards and 40 TDs each. Your starting TE must have 1,400 yards and 20 TD, your 2nd string block TE needs to come in with a cool 800 yards and 12 TD, and that's without counting your three 1,200 yards RBs, each with 15 TDs rushing and 7 TD receiving.

and if TR is short of 115 TDs with 7,500 yards, well, then, let's get rid of him because his body language sucks.

No doubt. It's as if a player who isn't a Pro Bowler out of the gate is worthless. If anything, our coaching staff has shown the ability to develop players as they remain in the system. Players develop at different paces. Let's give this one some time.
 

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unsportsmanlikeconduct;3159471 said:
And Phillips is only in Year 1 but, seems to have learned quicker. I do believe he has taken over the #2 TE position also.

Phillips 5 catch 48 yrds 0 tds.....im convinced , lets get rid of Bennett..:rolleyes:
 

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links18;3159478 said:
Randy White;3159466 said:
Dude was supposed to be "creating mismatches," "working the seam" and a "red zone freak" this year. It hasn't happened. It hasn't happened. I'll eat the crow though if he gets better. :eek::


No, he wasn't.

That's what YOU thought was going to happen. For each pass that's thrown to him, that's one less pass thrown to other top guys. There are at least 3 receivers and 1 TE ahead of him and then on top of that, Garrett has to run the ball about 30 times per game.

You want your second TE to make what you think it's an impact ? Ok, fine, go ahead and switch the Miami Dullphins personel with the Cowboys. They don't have a WR that's worth a damn and their first TE, who happened to play for this team before, has done nothing.

But, hey, it's fun watching Joey Hanos catch those 119 yards and 2 TDs in an entire year..
 

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Randy White;3159505 said:
links18;3159478 said:
No, he wasn't.

That's what YOU thought was going to happen. For each pass that's thrown to him, that's one less pass thrown to other top guys. There are at least 3 receivers and 1 TE ahead of him and then on top of that, Garrett has to run the ball about 30 times per game.

You want your second TE to make what you think it's an impact ? Ok, fine, go ahead and switch the Miami Dullphins personel with the Cowboys. They don't have a WR that's worth a damn and their first TE, who happened to play for this team before, has done nothing.

But, hey, it's fun watching Joey Hanos catch those 119 yards and 2 TDs in an entire year..

So, if your second TE isn't going to contribute much anyway, why not take a first rounder for him? He isn't going to unseat Witten. Is a back-up TE worth a 1st rounder? You don't think Phillips can do what Bennett is doing in the blocking game?

And that wasn't me talking up Bennett, that was Jerry Jones. :)
 

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links18;3159531 said:
Randy White;3159505 said:
So, if your second TE isn't going to contribute much anyway, why not take a first rounder for him?


Because your premise is wrong. The Jerrathor is alot of thing, but stupid is not one of them. If this was 3 years ago and the Bengals would have been offering a #1 pick for Fasano, the move would have been made in a nano second.

That the move itself wasn't made should tell you something.

Oh, and by the way, I WOULD have made the move, even knowing fully well how important Marty B has been to the offense, how much potential he has, and how I wouldn't lose ANY sleep if Witten goes down for any extended period of time.

Not only because of the extra #1 pick, who would have come very handy in this draft, which I consider is one of the best drafts to have multiple #1 picks in, in a few years, BUT because I want to see a change in the offense.

I want us to start moving back to the I and pro formations with a true, blocking FB, like we used to have with Emmitt. IMO, it's been the most successful line up that we have this year. I think the FB is already on the roster and I also think that Tachard Choice could EASILY be a 1,200 to 1,500 yards back with that formation. I truly believe we're wasting his talents and it's a shame. The 2 TE set would still be used as we've always have in our entire history, but Philips is capable enough of handling the job.
 

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Bigdog24;3158442 said:
how long can you hold on to a TE in the mold of Jamarus Russell...... this is the NFL not the boyscouts....

:lmao2:

This might be the dumbest thing that I've read on this forum.
 

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Bigdog24;3158993 said:
Thats more than Marty B has done all year......Go Homer another thread....big guy....Bennett is following D. Russell footsteps....getting passed up by 3rd stringers......

whats a matter little guy? Did i get under your skin? How about you look a little more into things before you pop off with garbage like this, and sound like a mindless homer.
 
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