Matt Cassel was as advertised

[Frosty]

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It pretty much tells you all you need to know. He's a career loser, on his 5th NFL team. He's capable of winning some games, but also just as capable of losing them.

Is this Brandon Weeden posting......Mr Weeden... face it... you need to hang up the cleats....losing 12 games in a row is not recipe for winning in the NFL... Cowboys thank you for your service...but they are NO Longer needed.

Somebody is posting for ratings....not discussions....

 

[CyberB0b]

Is this Brandon Weeden posting......Mr Weeden... face it your need to hang up the cleats....losing 12 games in a row is not recipe for winning in the NFL...

Somebody is posting for ratings....not discussions....

What did I say that is false? There's a reason why we gave up nearly nothing to get the #3 QB from the Bills.

 

[Bleu Star]

Except Cassel displayed none of that... he just stared down receivers, attempted throws he doesn't have the arm to make and turned the ball over three times, posting the worst QBR and QB rating of any Cowboy QB this season. Cassel has now thrown 7 interceptions in the last 2 games he has finished going in to a matchup with Seattle's secondary. I'll look forward to your next week's analysis of why his 4 interceptions fillled you with hope.

I guess you only read what you wanted to read.

I spoke of the future & not what went down yesterday.

will have a better understanding of the nuances of every play (like where guys typically will be when a play breaks down)

Please point me to any game film Cassel had of himself playing in our system prior to the Giants game. I have a few minutes.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The pick six was on the WR in my opinion.

 

[KJJ]

In CLE he actually tried and threw countless picks, in Dallas he became check down Charlie, he even said this was his audition for 31 other teams and he did not want a pick fest on tape.

Weeden is on the bench, Cassel needs to tighten up in his decision making process and accuracy.

Moore will not see the field.

I think we about covered the matter.

His history in Cleveland is why the Cowboys had him become check down Charlie to try and avoid having him make mistakes. He has more career turnovers than TD's so they had to adapt and compensate with him to try and keep him from self destructing. This was the game plan with Weeden hoping our backs and receivers could break off some plays with the check downs and high percentage throws. The Cowboys wanted him to complete a high percentage of passes to try and sustain drives in hopes of keeping the defense off the field and it didn't work. Cassel has had more productive games over his career than Weeden and has more capabilities of making big plays but with that comes INT's.

What Cassel needs to do he's never been able to do consistently which is why the Cowboys are his 5th team since 08. I said weeks ago Moore would never see the field but if in the next 2 weeks the Cowboys are still searching for a win and Cassel can't get it going the team might consider Moore as a last ditch chance to try and save this season. It would be a real long shot that he could come in with no starting experience and play well but the Cowboys might have to consider him if the losses keep mounting. This season is reminding me some of the Campo years having to play musical chairs at QB.

When you become desperate you try every QB you have to try and get a win. If Cassel gets loose with his throws against Seattle next week things could get really ugly and if they do Jerry and his coaches may start looking at each other and start discussing Moore. Realistically it's going to take at least 9 wins to make the playoffs which means the Cowboys are going to have to win 7 of their last 10 games good luck with that!

 

[Rogerthat12]

His history in Cleveland is why the Cowboys had him become check down Charlie to try and avoid having him make mistakes. He has more career turnovers than TD's so they had to adapt and compensate with him to try and keep him from self destructing. This was the game plan with Weeden hoping our backs and receivers could break off some plays with the check downs and high percentage throws. The Cowboys wanted him to complete a high percentage of passes to try and sustain drives in hopes of keeping the defense off the field and it didn't work. Cassel has had more productive games over his career than Weeden and has more capabilities of making big plays but with that comes INT's.

What Cassel needs to do he's never been able to do consistently which is why the Cowboys are his 5th team since 08. I said weeks ago Moore would never see the field but if in the next 2 weeks the Cowboys are still searching for a win and Cassel can't get it going the team might consider Moore as a last ditch chance to try and save this season. It would be a real long shot that he could come in with no starting experience and play well but the Cowboys might have to consider him if the losses keep mounting. This season is reminding me some of the Campo years having to play musical chairs at QB.

When you become desperate you try every QB you have to try and get a win. If Cassel gets loose with his throws against Seattle next week things could get really ugly and if they do Jerry and his coaches may start looking at each other and start discussing Moore. Realistically it's going to take at least 9 wins to make the playoffs which means the Cowboys are going to have to win 7 of their last 10 games good luck with that!

I disagree with your point on Weeden to an extent, I do think they were more careful with Weeden to a certain degree due to his history but he also took it much further by being afraid to throw past 10 yards in general when he had the option and coaching OK to do so (per his own words, he said as much).

Weeden did not want a pick fest on his audition tape to 31 other teams, per his own words.

I agree with everything else save Moore, I really do not see them pulling that move regardless but this team can surprise at times so we shall see.

 

[KJJ]

I disagree with your point on Weeden to an extent, I do think they were more careful with Weeden to a certain degree due to his history but he also took it much further by being afraid to throw past 10 yards in general when he had the option and coaching OK to do so (per his own words, he said as much).

Weeden did not want a pick fest on his audition tape to 31 other teams, per his own words.

I agree with everything else save Moore, I really do not see them pulling that move regardless but this team can surprise at times so we shall see.

He was being cautious with his throws but some of that was by design and not having a solid #1 receiver. Had he played with Dez he may have taken a few more chances but our WR's were having trouble getting open consistently and even Garrett made mention of that during one of his pressers. As for Moore I don't see them playing him but it can't be ruled out especially if Cassel suffers a meltdown vs Seattle's defense next week.

We've seen the Cowboys make some desperate moves over the years at QB under Jerry prior to Romo's arrival. The team has thrown the likes of Anthony Wright, Chad Hutchinson and Clint Stoerner on the field trying to find an answer. You can't rule anything out at this point especially if Cassel doesn't play well the next 2 weeks and the Cowboys are sitting at 2-6.

 

[Rogerthat12]

He was being cautious with his throws but some of that was by design and not having a solid #1 receiver. Had he played with Dez he may have taken a few more chances but our WR's were having trouble getting open consistently and even Garrett made mention of that during one of his pressers. As for Moore I don't see them playing him but it can't be ruled out especially if Cassel suffers a meltdown vs Seattle's defense next week.

We've seen the Cowboys make some desperate moves over the years at QB under Jerry prior to Romo's arrival. The team has thrown the likes of Anthony Wright, Chad Hutchinson and Clint Stoerner on the field trying to find an answer. You can't rule anything out at this point especially if Cassel doesn't play well the next 2 weeks and the Cowboys are sitting at 2-6.

I have no idea on the switch, it is doubtful but I really will not attempt to guess what this team will do.

I agree with you with reference to the if they had Dez situation but we all know Weeden was afraid of throwing picks and avoided the deep passing game until the NO game, it all was not by design, Weeden himself admitted he had both the option and coaches approval.

Jerry has stated in public why Weeden was benched, his limitations in terms of stretching the field on a regular basis with mounting losses.

 

[KJJ]

I have no idea on the switch, it is doubtful but I really will not attempt to guess what this team will do.

I agree with you with reference to the if they had Dez situation but we all know Weeden was afraid of throwing picks and avoided the deep passing game until the NO game, it all was not by design, Weeden himself admitted he had both the option and coaches approval.

Jerry has stated in public why Weeden was benched, his limitations in terms of stretching the field on a regular basis with mounting losses.

Didn't say it was all by design but some of the conservative approach with Weeden was by design to try and help mask the flaws he had. He's a very average QB and compensations had to be made with him he's not Tony Romo. He has a history of throwing into coverage and the Cowboys wanted to play it safe and limit his mistakes. The offense became stagnant with him so they wanted him to take more chances down the field to try and open things up.

Jerry explained why Weeden was benched but wasn't talking about any limitations with him this past summer. All he and his staff did was pump Weeden up saying how comfortable they felt with him. Most of us on this board knew the Cowboys would be screwed if Romo went down and he had to start for several games. They're screwed with any of the backup QBs they have.

 

[AbeBeta]

The pick six was on the WR in my opinion.

Very likely the case. We don't know the play call but it sure looked like the play was a sideline throw. Relatively high % if the WR has position on the DB - Exactly the call you'd want to make if you want to make sure, at worst, that you get in FG position.

Williams had position. Why he stopped the route is the big question. How different does this game look if Williams finishes his route there?

 

[Rogerthat12]

Didn't say it was all by design but some of the conservative approach with Weeden was by design to try and help mask the flaws he had. He's a very average QB and compensations had to be made with him he's not Tony Romo. He has a history of throwing into coverage and the Cowboys wanted to play it safe and limit his mistakes. The offense became stagnant with him so they wanted him to take more chances down the field to try and open things up.

Jerry explained why Weeden was benched but wasn't talking about any limitations with him this past summer. All he and his staff did was pump Weeden up saying how comfortable they felt with him. Most of us on this board knew the Cowboys would be screwed if Romo went down and he had to start for several games. They're screwed with any of the backup QBs they have.

I agree!

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

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It pretty much tells you all you need to know. He's a career loser, on his 5th NFL team. He's capable of winning some games, but also just as capable of losing them.

thnx.
and the sad thing is is that he is better than Weeden.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

Since Cassel was worse than Weeden in just about every measurable way possible, I'd say your post is what represents despair.

LMAO. Cassel moves the offense better than Weeden even with all the TOs. I know thats not saying much for Cassel but it also speaks to how sheety Weeden is. At least we score a TD with Cassel. With Weeden its FGs if we are lucky. He was figured out early in the Falcons game. What you saw with him in the Pats game is what you were going to get with him in the Giants game. With Weeden over center all you got to do is take away the underneath stuff because he isnt going mid or deep and its over. With Cassel at least the offense can spread out a little more and the defense has to take into account the mid-deep hence why McFadden was having such a nice time running. We have a bit more balance with Cassel. Not much but more than we have with Weeden.

 

[big dog cowboy]

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What it again and tell me that is pass interference. Start at about :56 That ball spent nearly 5 seconds in the air. If anything, Williams initiated the contact trying to get back 10 yards because it was so severely underthrown.

TWill got hit as he was coming back for the ball by a defender who wasn't facing the ball. That is PI. It doesn't matter how long the ball is in the air or how far it was underthrown. You can't hit a WR before the ball gets there and clearly TWill was.

 

[big dog cowboy]

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It pretty much tells you all you need to know. He's a career loser, on his 5th NFL team. He's capable of winning some games, but also just as capable of losing them.

Not really an advertisement but Cassel is a backup anyway.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

LMAO. Cassel moves the offense better than Weeden even with all the TOs. I know thats not saying much for Cassel but it also speaks to how sheety Weeden is. At least we score a TD with Cassel. With Weeden its FGs if we are lucky. He was figured out early in the Falcons game. What you saw with him in the Pats game is what you were going to get with him in the Giants game. With Weeden over center all you got to do is take away the underneath stuff because he isnt going mid or deep and its over. With Cassel at least the offense can spread out a little more and the defense has to take into account the mid-deep hence why McFadden was having such a nice time running. We have a bit more balance with Cassel. Not much but more than we have with Weeden.

Reading apparently isn't your strong suit, so I'll repeat it for you again: Cassel was worse in every way possible and did nothing for the running game at all except likely slow it down with his inaccurate throws. Worst starting performance of the season for any QB this year except for a group of cataract-riddled CZ members' "eye tests". I look forward to your excuses next week as well while you sit around in your boxers and 2008 Patriots jersey.

 

[gmoney112]

Reading apparently isn't your strong suit, so I'll repeat it for you again: Cassel was worse in every way possible and did nothing for the running game at all except likely slow it down with his inaccurate throws. Worst starting performance of the season for any QB this year except for a group of cataract-riddled CZ members' "eye tests". I look forward to your excuses next week as well while you sit around in your boxers and 2008 Patriots jersey.

Weeden's father is apparently a member of CZ.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

Reading apparently isn't your strong suit, so I'll repeat it for you again: Cassel was worse in every way possible and did nothing for the running game at all except likely slow it down with his inaccurate throws. Worst starting performance of the season for any QB this year except for a group of cataract-riddled CZ members' "eye tests". I look forward to your excuses next week as well while you sit around in your boxers and 2008 Patriots jersey.

who is this guy? pats jersey? reading strong suit? is this guy a troll? anyone care to share their history with this dude? sounds very trollish.

ive been a fan of the cowboys since 1977. are you at this level of arguments on CZ that you have to resort to calling someone who you disagree with a pats fan? LMAO

Rogah got under your skin didnt he?

 

[punchnjudy]

He was being cautious with his throws but some of that was by design and not having a solid #1 receiver. Had he played with Dez he may have taken a few more chances but our WR's were having trouble getting open consistently and even Garrett made mention of that during one of his pressers. As for Moore I don't see them playing him but it can't be ruled out especially if Cassel suffers a meltdown vs Seattle's defense next week.

We've seen the Cowboys make some desperate moves over the years at QB under Jerry prior to Romo's arrival. The team has thrown the likes of Anthony Wright, Chad Hutchinson and Clint Stoerner on the field trying to find an answer. You can't rule anything out at this point especially if Cassel doesn't play well the next 2 weeks and the Cowboys are sitting at 2-6.

Don't forget Ryan Leaf.

You really can't rule anything out.

 

[KJJ]

Don't forget Ryan Leaf.

You really can't rule anything out.

I left him out but I didn't forgot him when you're a desperate team that's struggling at QB you can't rule anything out. From the time Aikman was released to starting Romo the Cowboys went through a number of QBs.