Matt Moore-One of Wade's first big mistakes

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The Sunday of draft weekend began, obviously, with the first pick on the 4th rd. As soon as the question of who the best players left were, former QB & game breakdown extrordinaire, Ron "Jaws" Jaworski, began his second day mantra of just one player--"Matt Moore, QB, Oregon State".
I mean, the guy wouldn't stop. He went on about Moore's NFL powerful arm, his big time stats playing on a mediocre team. He had few other players to offer, either. He would patiently wait as "experts" like Mel "The Mouth" Kiper would slickly mention so & so from East Bumpuck State. As soon as Jaws had his opening, he would reply, "Don't forget Matt Moore, QB, Oregon State". It became a second day draft joke.

I wasn't laughing. Even though he played for the hated Iggles from the late '70s to the late '80s, I have always respected Jaws for his knowledge of the game--especially the passing game. He not only knows what the QB should be doing on a certain play, but also what the defense should be doing to stop him. So, when he talked incessantly about this Moore kid, I listened.

So, you can imagine how excited I was when I saw that our Cowboys had inked Moore to a FA contract after the draft. I felt he made our draft a more solid one. In fact, I even brought it up a half grade because of him.

Now, we all know how the NFL works. Every day in the spring & summer, teams are waiving players in order to put them on the practice squad. I for one think it's a stupid rule stuffed down the NFL's throat by the union to give players a better chance to play. Moore didn't want to leave. He wanted to stay with the Cowboys & learn from Brad Johnson & Tony Romo. However, one day during training camp, Phillips felt he could slip Moore through to the practice squad. Dumb move! I mean, if you're going to sign an UDFA to a very healthy contract, why would you take the chance of losing him on the waiver wire?? Phillips had other players he could have afforded to lose easier than Moore he could have waived.

I was & am still ticked. This kid is going to be a very good NFL QB. He can throw the ball through a brick house, and has the same kind of laid back confidence as Romo that made them quick friends. Now, we are playing against him. I'm not worried now. He's a rookie, and he's making rookie mistakes. Down the road somewhere, though, I feel the Cowboys are going to regret waiving this player.
 

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I agree. We should have kept him around to warm the bench for the next 6 years - keep him from ballin' out of control in the rest of the NFL.
 

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Yes, that was a pretty big mistake, in my opinion. At worst we would have had a serviceable long-term backup for Romo, and at best we could have turned him around in a few years for draft picks.
 

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Wasn't a mistake -- it was a calculated gamble. We expected that we could get him on the PS.
 

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theogt;1846532 said:
Yes, that was a pretty big mistake, in my opinion. At worst we would have had a serviceable long-term backup for Romo, and at best we could have turned him around in a few years for draft picks.


I agree.

Green Bay has done the same thing on multiple occasions.

And how many years do they keep Brad Johnson around as backup QB anyway?
 

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abersonc;1846533 said:
Wasn't a mistake -- it was a calculated gamble. We expected that we could get him on the PS.

Or in the end, a miscalculated gamble.

He played so well in the preaseason and other teams saw him.
 

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I think the Cowboys liked Bartel more. He was the QB they were hiding from the rest of the league by not even playing him, not Moore.
 

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CowboyManDan;1846536 said:
Or in the end, a miscalculated gamble.

He played so well in the preaseason and other teams saw him.
Yeah, that was the mistake. Thinking they had a chance of getting him on the PS.
 

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superpunk;1846527 said:
I agree. We should have kept him around to warm the bench for the next 6 years - keep him from ballin' out of control in the rest of the NFL.


Good thinking. I never even suspected what would happen if some team unleashed the Mattness on the rest of the NFL.

How in the **** could Wade have screwed up that ****** bad?
 

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abersonc;1846533 said:
Wasn't a mistake -- it was a calculated gamble. We expected that we could get him on the PS.

gam·ble: To engage in reckless or hazardous behavior.

At least we didn’t gamble with Romo.
 

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Can we wait on declaring these UFA QBs becoming the next Tony Romo until they actually may show something? It took TR three years under the radar to develop into what he is right now.

Until Moore develops (and that's under the condition of an "if) into a solid QB whose pattern follows Romo's development, then the category of "mistake" can be applied. But, right now, it's really odd that people are worried about an UFA panning out, just because the Cowboys seemingly struck gold with Romo. Wouldn't the organization have the best judgement on such a possibility since it succeeded in finding a diamond in the rough when it mattered?
 

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Umm how can we be so sure?

I think its way too early to consider this a mistake.
 

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superpunk;1846527 said:
I agree. We should have kept him around to warm the bench for the next 6 years - keep him from ballin' out of control in the rest of the NFL.

AsthmaField;1846551 said:
Good thinking. I never even suspected what would happen if some team unleashed the Mattness on the rest of the NFL.

How in the **** could Wade have screwed up that ****** bad?
Good thing we've kept guys like Evan Oglesby, Tyson Thompson, and Alan Ball on the roster, in his place.

Those guys are RAWKSTARS!!!!!!!11
 

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The better the talent level gets on this team the more players like Moore will get lost in the shuffle. You can't keep everyone who comes to camp and a lot of times good players get caught up in the numbers game. As mentioned already it was my understanding Dallas was hoping to bring him back to the PS but Carolina jumped up and grabbed him
 

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I vote that certain threads get these:

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theogt;1846562 said:
Good thing we've kept guys like Evan Oglesby, Tyson Thompson, and Alan Ball on the roster, in his place.

Those guys are RAWKSTARS!!!!!!!11

Ultimately, that might end up being a great decision. (Not Tyson Thompson, but the rest.) What was the end-game for Moore? To just back Tony up for the next six years? Guys like Oglesby and Ball at least have a chance of contributing on ST and are depth at a position we really need it. But there was no real reason to hide Moore. Maybe eventually we could have wrangled a 4th round pick for him or something - but I hardly think we should be rueing the fact that a guy who was set to be a back up for Tony went to a team and was the 4th option behind Delhomme, Vinny, and Carr, and finally got to play a little.
 

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superpunk;1846576 said:
Ultimately, that might end up being a great decision. (Not Tyson Thompson, but the rest.) What was the end-game for Moore? To just back Tony up for the next six years? Guys like Oglesby and Ball at least have a chance of contributing on ST and are depth at a position we really need it. But there was no real reason to hide Moore. Maybe eventually we could have wrangled a 4th round pick for him or something - but I hardly think we should be rueing the fact that a guy who was set to be a back up for Tony went to a team and was the 4th option behind Delhomme, Vinny, and Carr, and finally got to play a little.

I agree.

This is not a mistake and definitely not a big mistake.
 

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superpunk;1846576 said:
Ultimately, that might end up being a great decision. (Not Tyson Thompson, but the rest.) What was the end-game for Moore? To just back Tony up for the next six years? Guys like Oglesby and Ball at least have a chance of contributing on ST and are depth at a position we really need it. But there was no real reason to hide Moore. Maybe eventually we could have wrangled a 4th round pick for him or something - but I hardly think we should be rueing the fact that a guy who was set to be a back up for Tony went to a team and was the 4th option behind Delhomme, Vinny, and Carr, and finally got to play a little.
I think the low-end value of Moore outweighs even the high-end value of Oglesby, Ball, or Thompson. And that's the reason I think it's a stupid mistake. Whether it's a "big" mistake is relative.
 

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superpunk;1846527 said:
I agree. We should have kept him around to warm the bench for the next 6 years - keep him from ballin' out of control in the rest of the NFL.

we shall rue that day as it will live in infamy!
 
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