Matt Moore-One of Wade's first big mistakes

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You can still lose players on the practice squad. Signing Moore to the practice squad was no guarantee he would remain a Cowboy.
 

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i have a feeling that after Saturday, the Moore bandwagon will be significantly smaller.
 

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We will rue the day we let Moore go.

Rue! Rue, I tell you! RUE!!!!!

NOW!

RUE!
 

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Moore does seem to have the it factor.....I look forward to watching him on Sat nite.
 

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CrazyCowboy;1846633 said:
Moore does seem to have the it factor.....I look forward to watching him on Sat nite.

I agree.

The way he handed the ball off to DeAngelo Williams on that 35 yard touchdown run just screamed of "it." The "it" was oozing off Moore on that play.

Then he led them two 2 field goal drives.

We will rue the day!
 

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superpunk;1846576 said:
Ultimately, that might end up being a great decision. (Not Tyson Thompson, but the rest.) What was the end-game for Moore? To just back Tony up for the next six years? Guys like Oglesby and Ball at least have a chance of contributing on ST and are depth at a position we really need it. But there was no real reason to hide Moore. Maybe eventually we could have wrangled a 4th round pick for him or something - but I hardly think we should be rueing the fact that a guy who was set to be a back up for Tony went to a team and was the 4th option behind Delhomme, Vinny, and Carr, and finally got to play a little.

In 2-3 years he becomes a Matt Schaub for a team that needs a QB you are thinking 5-6 years if he kept playing that way in pre-season over the next year or so he becomes a draft pick. QB's get you higher picks than most positions.

GB got picks for their backup QB's for years. Lets see Doug Hasselbeck; Doug Johnson and Mark Burnell. So if we could have turned a udfa into a draft pick that is like striking gold in the NFL.

Matt was needing time to develop that is all Panthers picked him up to groom for a couple years. He is only starting because of a big rash of injuries
 

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Kangaroo;1846676 said:
In 2-3 years he becomes a Matt Schaub for a team that needs a QB you are thinking 5-6 years if he kept playing that way in pre-season over the next year or so he becomes a draft pick. QB's get you higher picks than most positions.

Or he just remains a Matt Moore - a Todd Collins - insert random career backup here, we never get a draft pick but we lose Alan Ball who becomes a very good nickel corner for Detroit. Either situation is feasible.

We took a chance that we could store him on the PS. It didn't work. We've got plenty of time to find another Matt Moore.
 

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theogt;1846562 said:
Good thing we've kept guys like Evan Oglesby, Tyson Thompson, and Alan Ball on the roster, in his place.

Those guys are RAWKSTARS!!!!!!!11


Do I detect a sarcasm?
 

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superpunk;1846527 said:
I agree. We should have kept him around to warm the bench for the next 6 years - keep him from ballin' out of control in the rest of the NFL.

QBs are hard to come by, what is wrong with grooming him just in case something happens to Romo? We could always trade him a year or 2 down the line if he is playing well. Teams are always willing to give up picks for QBs.
 

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Doomsday;1846731 said:
QBs are hard to come by, what is wrong with grooming him just in case something happens to Romo? We could always trade him a year or 2 down the line if he is playing well. Teams are always willing to give up picks for QBs.

There is nothing wrong with that. It doesn't mean that losing Moore was a big mistake. And how do we know that Dallas is not currently grooming Bartel just in case something happens to Romo?
 

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stasheroo;1846534 said:
I agree.

Green Bay has done the same thing on multiple occasions.

And how many years do they keep Brad Johnson around as backup QB anyway?
I think we'll draft somebody in the later rounds.
 

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I like Moore and wish him the best in his career. Just not on Saturday.
 

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Cogan;1846526 said:
The Sunday of draft weekend began, obviously, with the first pick on the 4th rd. As soon as the question of who the best players left were, former QB & game breakdown extrordinaire, Ron "Jaws" Jaworski, began his second day mantra of just one player--"Matt Moore, QB, Oregon State".
I mean, the guy wouldn't stop. He went on about Moore's NFL powerful arm, his big time stats playing on a mediocre team. He had few other players to offer, either. He would patiently wait as "experts" like Mel "The Mouth" Kiper would slickly mention so & so from East Bumpuck State. As soon as Jaws had his opening, he would reply, "Don't forget Matt Moore, QB, Oregon State". It became a second day draft joke.

I wasn't laughing. Even though he played for the hated Iggles from the late '70s to the late '80s, I have always respected Jaws for his knowledge of the game--especially the passing game. He not only knows what the QB should be doing on a certain play, but also what the defense should be doing to stop him. So, when he talked incessantly about this Moore kid, I listened.

So, you can imagine how excited I was when I saw that our Cowboys had inked Moore to a FA contract after the draft. I felt he made our draft a more solid one. In fact, I even brought it up a half grade because of him.

Now, we all know how the NFL works. Every day in the spring & summer, teams are waiving players in order to put them on the practice squad. I for one think it's a stupid rule stuffed down the NFL's throat by the union to give players a better chance to play. Moore didn't want to leave. He wanted to stay with the Cowboys & learn from Brad Johnson & Tony Romo. However, one day during training camp, Phillips felt he could slip Moore through to the practice squad. Dumb move! I mean, if you're going to sign an UDFA to a very healthy contract, why would you take the chance of losing him on the waiver wire?? Phillips had other players he could have afforded to lose easier than Moore he could have waived.

I was & am still ticked. This kid is going to be a very good NFL QB. He can throw the ball through a brick house, and has the same kind of laid back confidence as Romo that made them quick friends. Now, we are playing against him. I'm not worried now. He's a rookie, and he's making rookie mistakes. Down the road somewhere, though, I feel the Cowboys are going to regret waiving this player.
And yet, Moore was UNDRAFTED. He did not slip to the later rounds like Derek Anderson did, but was undrafted. Sure, he could be the next coming of Romo, BUT what are the chances of that? Romo IS the exception, not the rule. For every Tony Romo how many __________ have there been throughout the years who we thought could be the "one". The one who could have developed IF only we just held on to him just a little while longer, etc. I liked Moore, don't get me wrong, but I'm not losing any sleep over it cuz we've already found our One.....
 

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I don't see what all the hub-bub is about. He was an undrafted Free Agent QB.

Its not like he would be the next Romo or anything.
 

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5mics;1846814 said:
And yet, Moore was UNDRAFTED. He did not slip to the later rounds like Derek Anderson did, but was undrafted. Sure, he could be the next coming of Romo, BUT what are the chances of that? Romo IS the exception, not the rule. For every Tony Romo how many __________ have there been throughout the years who we thought could be the "one". The one who could have developed IF only we just held on to him just a little while longer, etc. I liked Moore, don't get me wrong, but I'm not losing any sleep over it cuz we've already found our One.....

Kurt Warner was also not drafted Brad Johnson was like a 9th round pick which is the same thing as a UDFA since we only have 7 rounds
 

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Cogan;1846526 said:
Matt Moore-One of Wade's first big mistakes

:rolleyes:



With all the injuries we've suffered this year, it's GOOD we only kept 2 QBs cuz we actually needed that extra roster spot for other players.


First big mistake? The kid never would have seen the field in Dallas.


Again, :rolleyes:
 

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Cogan;1846526 said:
I felt he made our draft a more solid one. In fact, I even brought it up a half grade because of him.

Maybe I'm missing something here but......your draft grade is important for what reason?

I mean, people give out grades for things because they have a certain amount of clout in a situation. Teachers give grades based upon how well a student is learning the subject they are an expert in. Movie reviewers give grades based on their educated opinions and experience. Consumer review magazines give grades based upon the performance of a certain product compared to other similar products.

Why, exactly, are you grading the draft class chosen by the Dallas Cowboys.....and what kind of significance does your grade have in the grand scheme of things?
 

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SultanOfSix;1846555 said:
Can we wait on declaring these UFA QBs becoming the next Tony Romo until they actually may show something? It took TR three years under the radar to develop into what he is right now.

Until Moore develops (and that's under the condition of an "if) into a solid QB whose pattern follows Romo's development, then the category of "mistake" can be applied. But, right now, it's really odd that people are worried about an UFA panning out, just because the Cowboys seemingly struck gold with Romo. Wouldn't the organization have the best judgement on such a possibility since it succeeded in finding a diamond in the rough when it mattered?


It was not under the radar by any means. He put up stellar numbers whenever he played in preseason games. It was mostly dismissed though -
 

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Exactly. And who is to say it was Wade. It was an organizational gamble. Wade, Jeff and Jerry!
 
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