Matthew Golden should probably be our pick

[tm1119]

Nah.

Golden is a transfer from Houston who worked his way up the depth charts.

He checks every single box when you watch him.

The physical ability is there and was well as the skill.

College numbers don’t mean squat going forward.


The draft isn’t about yesterday’s production. It’s about tomorrows.

But the chart literally shows that it matters

 

[Proof]

perception is that teams should not draft TEs high,data backs it up too but you can't tell me Golden is a better football player than Warren.

think the question though, is golden and ferg better than warren and tolbert?

 

[morasp]

First round TEs since 2019

2019 round 1 pick 8 TJ Hockenson
2024 stats 41/455 hasn't played a full season

2019 Noah Fant Round 1 Pick 20
2024 stats 48/500

2021 Kyle Pitts round 1 Pick 4
2024 stats 47/602

2023 Dalton Kincaid Round 1 pick 25
2024 stats 44/448

2024 Borck Bowers Round 1 Pick 13
2024 stats 112/1194

 

[stilltheguru]

First round TEs since 2019

2019 round 1 pick 8 TJ Hockenson
2024 stats 41/455 hasn't played a full season

2019 Noah Fant Round 1 Pick 20
2024 stats 48/500

2021 Kyle Pitts round 1 Pick 4
2024 stats 47/602

2023 Dalton Kincaid Round 1 pick 25
2024 stats 44/448

2024 Borck Bowers Round 1 Pick 13
2024 stats 112/1194

All we can do is hope Jerry isn't dumb enough to draft Warren

 

[Pass2Run]

You are underestimating Tolbert. He would have had 1,000 receiving and 10 touchdowns if Dak did not get hurt.

I tend to agree.

 

[tm1119]

First round TEs since 2019

2019 round 1 pick 8 TJ Hockenson
2024 stats 41/455 hasn't played a full season

2019 Noah Fant Round 1 Pick 20
2024 stats 48/500

2021 Kyle Pitts round 1 Pick 4
2024 stats 47/602

2023 Dalton Kincaid Round 1 pick 25
2024 stats 44/448

2024 Borck Bowers Round 1 Pick 13
2024 stats 112/1194

Pretty disingenuous way to paint Hockenson’s career so far don’t ya think?

 

[stilltheguru]

Pretty disingenuous way to paint Hockenson’s career so far don’t ya think?

Post his career stats if you think it would make him look better. (It wont)

 

[Pass2Run]

think the question though, is golden and ferg better than warren and tolbert?

No.

Tolbert is improving, too. The point about Rush as QB is valid. His arm is terrible.

 

[baltcowboy]

I tend to agree.

I am not saying Tolbert and the rest of the Cowboys receivers after CeeDee are great but they certainly are serviceable. Wide receiver unless it’s a true number 1 should not be in consideration at 12. Tet is closer to Sutton then Higgins.

 

[tm1119]

Post his career stats if you think it would make him look better. (It wont)

Well 1, he has indeed played 2 full seasons. Pretty easy to disprove.

From 2020 (2nd year in the league) to right before he got his knee taken out late in 2023- 60 games, 309 catches, 3,180 yards, 21 TD’s. No good? If a WR gives you 75 catches and 800 yards a year they will get paid 20+ Mil a year, a tight end that will also do that and be a key inline blocker is tremendous value.

I honestly don’t think you have a grasp on the TE position in general to be honest with you.

 

[stilltheguru]

Well 1, he has indeed played 2 full seasons. Pretty easy to disprove.

From 2020 (2nd year in the league) to right before he got his knee taken out late in 2023- 60 games, 309 catches, 3,180 yards, 21 TD’s. No good? If a WR gives you 75 catches and 800 yards a year they will get paid 20+ Mil a year, a tight end that will also do that and be a key inline blocker is tremendous value.

I honestly don’t think you have a grasp on the TE position in general to be honest with you.

Those numbers aren't good for a first round tip 10 pick. 21 tds in 60 games? You posted that like it was a mic drop lol.

The yardage breakdown is even worse

 

[morasp]

Pretty disingenuous way to paint Hockenson’s career so far don’t ya think?

Not really, availability matters. The fact is most of those guys missed significant time.

Games started
2019 7
2020 16
2021 12
2022 14
2023 11
2024 9

 

[Cowboyny]

Watch this guy. The highlights are crazy.

He’s probably a top 3 player in this draft.

I live in Penn state country and have watched every snap last season, good player, but not a generational talent at the position. I see him like a LaPorta, who was drafted in rd 2.

 

[big dog cowboy]

And what did he do when Dak was starting?

Watch Lamb catch passes.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm just not sure 'well we already have Tolbert' is a valid reason to not invest in the position.

KaVontae Turpin
Ryan Flournoy
Jonathan Mingo
Parris Campbell

 

[big dog cowboy]

Only issue I have with taking a wr early is what about the run game?

What about stopping the run?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Pretty disingenuous way to paint Hockenson’s career so far don’t ya think?

His 2nd best season he went 67-723 and averages 54 receptions per year for his career.

 

[CATCH17]

I live in Penn state country and have watched every snap last season, good player, but not a generational talent at the position. I see him like a LaPorta, who was drafted in rd 2.

Problem is this draft sucks.

You’re just trying to draft good players.

Even the high upside guys are gross.

This guy and Lamb playing off each other would be fun to watch.

 

[Rayman70]

What about stopping the run?

Totally agree

 

[Rayman70]

Problem is this draft sucks.

You’re just trying to draft good players.

Even the high upside guys are gross.

This guy and Lamb playing off each other would be fun to watch.

The caveat might be at running back. This is one of the best classes is many years.