Maybe a benching will get Roy Williams' attention.

[burmafrd]

You know how Jerruh hates to admit mistakes so Roy will be with us for at least one more season. And who knows? It might finally work. The guy has the physical talent and he is not lazy, he works hard (his blocking downfield tells you that). IT just might be this is the wrong place for him. Its happened before.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

So how long do you keep that mentality?

We stuck with Folk for a long time. Let's say RW is still dropping key passes this time next year. Do you bench him then?

I agree with you that now is not the time. I'm just wondering how long we stick with it down the road.

Believe me, the frustration is there. FOR ME THAT IS... lol

I just hope he gets through this. He has shown some progress... lets hope it continues.

It would depend on if his problem is effort, toughness, or confidence. If his problem is confidence, then keep playing him. If his problem is effort or toughness, bench him for the week 17 game.

I beliebe its a confidence thing.

Hurry, Lassie! If we cross Old Man Dewey's Farm we can save Packy who fell in the well!

Yet, another quality post.

He has the yips but a benching is not going to solve that.

Bingo, Bango, Bongo!

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

You dont bench Roy Williams. The guy is a good, quality WR that is mentally muffing up.

You play him through this and hope he gets locked in.... soon!!

I agree with this. But I think his locking up has to do with the fact that he already got paid and doesn't seem overly interested in being a great player. Some players take pride in this. I can see a huge difference in Miles Austin's work ethic and Roy Williams just by hearing the two talk and seeing their reactions on the field.

When he stops being nonchalant I think that's when Roy gets "locked in". Right now I don't see him playing with much passion. But this is just my personal observation.

 

[zrinkill]

Roy Williams is still better than any wide receiver not named Miles Austin on the roster.

If he were not making so much money ...... no one would have a problem with a number 2 guy who has 7 td's on the year.

This thread is reactionary and ridiculous.

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[LittleBoyBlue]

I agree with this. But I think his locking up has to do with the fact that he already got paid and doesn't seem overly interested in being a great player. Some players take pride in this. I can see a huge difference in Miles Austin's work ethic and Roy Williams just by hearing the two talk and seeing their reactions on the field.

When he stops being nonchalant I think that's when Roy gets "locked in". Right now I don't see him playing with much passion. But this is just my personal observation.

I think the mistake there is going by what he says in the media or how he smiles when he drops a ball.

1. He tells the media "drops happen" and "insert other excuse here". He doesnt want to be having that conversation. I am sure he would rather be talking about a 10 catch/ 150 yard game. I dont buy that he doesnt care or he got paid and is just doing enough. I dont. No way.


2. He drops the ball and smiles but seriously he is not smiling as if "ha ha that was funny lets do that again", he smiles as if to say, "I cant believe it, again.. come on". Laughing so not to explode.


I think Roy is ecstatic about being a Dallas Cowboy.
I think Roy wants to contribute in a big way.

He is just going through a rough transition. Think about it. He goes from zero to a team of heroes and he is trying to do too much.

The other day he was trying to run with the pass before he secured it. He was aiming for 1st down/end zone.


Come on ROY!!!

 

[dhaber]

Really don't think that the division championship game is the game to bench RW.
What worries me is that RW drops a crucial pass and possibly costs us the game. The drop he made vs the Commanders was because he looked up a split second before the drop. Was he thinking about the rib injury earlier in the year?
Maybe, or was he just trying to see where to run after catching the pass? In the years that he played in Detroit I hardly ever got to see them on TV but the times I did, RW seemed to be a fairly good receiver, a very good number 2. I have a hard time believing that talent is the reason he drops so many balls so I'm thinking it must be confidence, concentration or the fear of getting drilled by a hard charging safety. Fear is not a good thing when asking the guy to slant across the middle. If he doesn't get past this issue soon then start reducing his playing time and increase Crayton's, Hurd's or Ogletree's. These guys are good enough to share his spot if he isn't cutting it. Go Cowboys!!!!

 

[YosemiteSam]

Roy Williams is still better than any wide receiver not named Miles Austin on the roster.

If he were not making so much money ...... no one would have a problem with a number 2 guy who has 7 td's on the year.

This thread is reactionary and ridiculous.

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That has yet to be seen. Everyone would have said Roy was better than Austin until the KC game. From what I've seen from Ogletree, I think the kid deserves a real chance to play. He has made several very good to great plays and I think I've only seen 1 negative play from him.

He appears more effective than Crayton when he is actually on the field. (though Crayton hasn't been terrible like he was earlier in the year)

 

[zrinkill]

That has yet to be seen.

I am very excited about Ogletree and wish he would get more playing time.

But Roy is (as of right now) still the best option at the number 2 position.

I still do not think (and Kitna would agree) that he is being used properly in relation to his skill set.

 

[cowboyed]

You know how Jerruh hates to admit mistakes so Roy will be with us for at least one more season. And who knows? It might finally work. The guy has the physical talent and he is not lazy, he works hard (his blocking downfield tells you that). IT just might be this is the wrong place for him. Its happened before.

Jerry hates to admit mistakes huh? Jerry openly admitted that he:

He didn't handle the Landry exit well and apologized for it

Overstated that any of 500 coaches can lead the Cowboys successfully

Got too cute with some player acquisitions during these 20+ years

Was too hard on Chan Gailey by prematurely firing him

Getting PacMan onboard was his mess

Got a little carried away with Barber's injury recovery expectation 2 years ago

Looks at the man in the mirror when attributing blame at the playoff and Superbowl drought

Roy Williams not being benched or released at this point in time has nothing to do with how bad it looks on Jerry. Jerry is still hoping for a return on investment and that Roy turns it around. Sometimes you have to eat your mistakes longer than you would like to for team positive equilibrium and cap management purposes.

 

[stilltheguru]

Roy Williams is still better than any wide receiver not named Miles Austin on the roster.

If he were not making so much money ...... no one would have a problem with a number 2 guy who has 7 td's on the year.

This thread is reactionary and ridiculous.

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What makes Roy better than Crayton? You don't know a damn thing about football dude. Seriously

 

[zrinkill]

You don't know a damn thing about football dude. Seriously

This coming from the joke of the board.

:laugh2:

Is your obsession getting ready for the Probowl this year?

 

[stilltheguru]

My obsession or yours? Stick to the post. You ar eout of your mind if you think Roy is better than Crayton. It's very typical of you to say such a thing though, seeing as you get butt hurt at every Roy bashing thread. The guy is horrible. You are one of the few who have yet to come to that realization because you are a "zone defender". Hope that job pays well.:laugh2:

 

[zrinkill]

Getting sadder and sadder.

 

[stilltheguru]

Getting sadder and sadder.

Tell me about it. Being obsessed with defending a lazy/no work ethic having, average reciever with the dropsies is quite sad.

 

[zrinkill]

Tell me about it. Being obsessed with defending a lazy/no work ethic having, average reciever with the dropsies is quite sad.

Most ironic thing you have ever posted.

But being that you are admittedly not even a Cowboy fan ..... I can understand it.

 

[stilltheguru]

Most ironic thing you have ever posted.

But being that you are admittedly not even a Cowboy fan ..... I can understand it.

Obsessed? Coming from somebody bringing up "my obsession" in a thread where he wasn't mentioned one time. Ironic indeed. You can hang onto my old threads all you want to. Doesn't move me one bit about your worthless opinion of my fandom.

 

[zrinkill]

Doesn't move me one bit about your worthless opinion of my fandom.

Because it does not exist.

I want a Cowboys Bills Super bowl. As long as Romo isn't playing in the game I dont care who wins. I just hate #9 because he is a piece of trash fraud. Sue me

Now ...... back to ignore with you.

 

[DallasEast]

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[CowboyDan]

Before they lock this thread.........

Just an FYI for all of you Roy11 haters:

Drops

Roy Williams 8 drops

Miles Austin 5 drops

And Miles has dropped some easy, run-without-the-ball catches too. The difference as I see it is that Miles makes some big big big big big plays when he does catch it. And he doesn't make snide comments or throw people under the bus when he is asked about his play, like Roy 11 does. However, Roy 11 is no T.O. when it comes to this, so I'm hopeful that things will work out.

And as an aside, Marques Colston has 8 drops as well, and Derrick Mason dropped a game winning wide-open TD against the Steelers last week, and laughed it off on his way back to the huddle. I'm just sayin...

 

[Ren]

I doubt it, i think we need to take the Jenkins approach to Roy and just hope he plays him self into a little confidence