Maybe a benching will get Roy Williams' attention.

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Roy Williams 8 drops

Miles Austin 5 drops

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Miles Austin 117

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DanTanna;3184290 said:
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Roy Williams 8 drops

Miles Austin 5 drops

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Roy Williams 32

Miles Austin 117

:laugh2: Just kidding.


I'm not saying I blame Romo for targeting the guys that catch the ball and make plays.....believe me if I were him I'd never throw another pass to Marty B either. :banghead: I'm just saying that I think Roy still poses a threat to opposing defenses and that his drops are exaggerated.
 

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Ren;3184289 said:
I doubt it, i think we need to take the Jenkins approach to Roy and just hope he plays him self into a little confidence

I wouldn't mind seeing him split time with Ogletree (I think you're already seeing it actually, with Ogletree and Hurd) but I really like his run blocking and his down the field blocking and I worry about how he will handle less playing time.
 

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I don't think you bench Williams to get his attention. You bench him if there's someone on the roster who can play the position at a higher level. I'm not sure we have such a player apart from Austin.
 

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Sasquatch;3184321 said:
I don't think you bench Williams to get his attention. You bench him if there's someone on the roster who can play the position at a higher level. I'm not sure we have such a player apart from Austin.


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Sasquatch;3184321 said:
I don't think you bench Williams to get his attention. You bench him if there's someone on the roster who can play the position at a higher level. I'm not sure we have such a player apart from Austin.
Honestly is Williams playing at a high level? That is debateable. Say what you wish about the fact that Ogletree, Hurd or Crayton are not as good. But can you honestly say they could not replicate his raw production? Aside from his improvement in the redzone, I have not seen his level of play rise since the season opener. He has been consistently mediocre.

Granted right now, he is potentially capable of playing at a higher level than the rest of the players at his position. But let us not pretend that he is drawing double teams to free up Witten and Austin. He's being single covered and dropping nearly everything in sight. I do not think he really is hungry to rise above where he is at. Perhaps it is just me, he seems content just being on a playoff team, not being a reason why that team is there in the first place.
 

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Alexander;3184344 said:
Honestly is Williams playing at a high level? That is debateable. Say what you wish about the fact that Ogletree, Hurd or Crayton are not as good. But can you honestly say they could not replicate his raw production? Aside from his improvement in the redzone, I have not seen his level of play rise since the season opener. He has been consistently mediocre.

Granted right now, he is potentially capable of playing at a higher level than the rest of the players at his position. But let us not pretend that he is drawing double teams to free up Witten and Austin. He's being single covered and dropping nearly everything in sight. I do not think he really is hungry to rise above where he is at. Perhaps it is just me, he seems content just being on a playoff team, not being a reason why that team is there in the first place.

Do you think Hurd or Ogletree can run block as well as Roy? I have a feeling that it's one of the reason's he's still on the field for the majority of the game. However, in final quarter passing situations, notice that Ogletree and Hurd are on the field instead of Roy11 for the last 2 games now. Expect to see that trend continue.
 

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CowboyDan;3184366 said:
Do you think Hurd or Ogletree can run block as well as Roy? I have a feeling that it's one of the reason's he's still on the field for the majority of the game.

Williams has done a very good job blocking for the most part. Hurd is an aggressive player and he can deliver some crunching blocks. Ogletree, not really. I was speaking more along the lines if any of the three WRs can catch 2-3 passes a game and not have the crucial mindless drop. But your point is well taken.

However, in final quarter passing situations, notice that Ogletree and Hurd are on the field instead of Roy11 for the last 2 games now. Expect to see that trend continue.

This is true. If we need crucial yards and will need them through the air, we have seen the other three more often. That is telling.
 

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Alexander;3184344 said:
Honestly is Williams playing at a high level? That is debateable. Say what you wish about the fact that Ogletree, Hurd or Crayton are not as good. But can you honestly say they could not replicate his raw production? Aside from his improvement in the redzone, I have not seen his level of play rise since the season opener. He has been consistently mediocre.

Granted right now, he is potentially capable of playing at a higher level than the rest of the players at his position. But let us not pretend that he is drawing double teams to free up Witten and Austin. He's being single covered and dropping nearly everything in sight. I do not think he really is hungry to rise above where he is at. Perhaps it is just me, he seems content just being on a playoff team, not being a reason why that team is there in the first place.

I'm one of those who opposed the trade to begin with, and think that his performance so far justifies my original skepticism, so I assure you that I'm not pretending that Roy has one any of the things that you mentioned. In fact, if the problem is Roy's lackadaisical approach, then I'm all for benching him to send him a message.

But all the reports that I've read seem to indicate that he is a hard worker in practice whose efforts are just not showing up on the field for whatever reason. Given that, I think the decision should be about fielding the best receiver corps possible. I don't think Hurd or Ogletree are necessarily better options at this point. They both have made some plays and missed some plays. Of course, this does not mean that I'm all for retaining his services after this season at the current price tag at his current level of play.
 

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Sasquatch;3184430 said:
But all the reports that I've read seem to indicate that he is a hard worker in practice whose efforts are just not showing up on the field for whatever reason.

I could care less what he does in practice. It simply does not matter. If he is catching passes left and right in practice and not in games, why should he get points for that? He has to start making them in games. We used to have Alvin Harper who was called Fri-Light because he made more plays in Friday practices than in games. Eventually he too had to become clutch if we were going to move forward. If just being a "hard worker" in practice but coming up short in games cuts it with this staff, then we are doing it wrong.

I don't even think he has to do that much to get people off his back. It has graduated well beyond the stage where it is expected he's going to be an 80-catch 1200 yard receiver. The standards, believe it or not, have dropped and he is not even threatening that. There was a point around midseason where he was not scoring, but he was at least catching what was served. Now, he is scoring the redzone touches, but dropping the easy ones and it is killing drives. We can't have that at this time of the year. He has to step up. Being a good blocker and sometimes red zone threat is not going to help us if teams can scheme out Austin and Witten which can be done.

Given that, I think the decision should be about fielding the best receiver corps possible. I don't think Hurd or Ogletree are necessarily better options at this point. They both have made some plays and missed some plays. Of course, this does not mean that I'm all for retaining his services after this season at the current price tag at his current level of play.

This is a big game for Williams, IMO. If he does not step forward and at least address the bout of the dropsies, I would hope we seriously consider a workload change, much like we did with Julius Jones in the divisional game a few years ago. It worked like a charm until our defense gave up a cheap touchdown in two minutes and our line ran out of gas in the second half.
 
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