Maybe Pacman has seen the light...

[superpunk]

I'm skeptical too, but he should follow through with it, cause he isn't playing next year, no matter what he thinks...

I thought he only had to live up to the terms of reinstatement and he could come back after 10 games.

 

[burmafrd]

Just like alcoholics and drug users, if you do not WANT to change you won't.

 

[trickblue]

I thought he only had to live up to the terms of reinstatement and he could come back after 10 games.

Goose said yesterday that that wasn't the case... I don't know for sure...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

College classrooms don't offer a hell of a lot of structure. Nowhere near the structure that being on an NFL team offers. College/University faculty generally don't care if you come to class - most won't notice if you are there. He'll have somewhere to be (if he chooses to go) about 12-15 hours a week. The rest of the time is free.

I'm skeptical that he's using this to support his reinstatement next year.

I kind of agree with you here Abs. This sounds like a smart agent being smart to me.

 

[Cowboy Bill Watts]

On Mike & Mike this morning, Golic said that Jones' agent is reporting that although he is not conceding the fact that he won't play next year, if that does happen he will re-enroll at WVU and finish his degree.

what difference does it make what his agent concedes?

what exactly are the options?

 

[trickblue]

what difference does it make what his agent concedes?

what exactly are the options?

Sounds to me as if they plan to appeal...

 

[burmafrd]

I beleive that IF he fulfilled all the requirements he would be EVALUATED to see if he should have his suspension cut short. I kind of doubt that will happen.

 

[burmafrd]

What is he going to appeal to? Its the commish's call and the NFLPA already says it agrees.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I love this. None of you have met the guy nor have you had any experinece of him at all except for what youve been spoonfed my ESPN or maybe some interview yet youve come to the conclusion that he cannot decide to live a more healthy lifestyle?

Its laughable. I wonder how many of you also feel that TO is a cancer and will never be anything but.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What is he going to appeal to? Its the commish's call and the NFLPA already says it agrees.

ever heard of the court system? all he has to do is prove that the NFL cannot change the contract concerning conduct and then apply it to previous acts. you realize that hes got his own lawyer and is acting outside of the NFLPA dont you?

 

[Doomsday101]

ever heard of the court system? all he has to do is prove that the NFL cannot change the contract concerning conduct and then apply it to previous acts. you realize that hes got his own lawyer and is acting outside of the NFLPA dont you?

And the NFL has it's own lawyers, so if Pacman want to go to court then go for it or he can clean his act up and get back into the league. The only person to blame is Pacman he has dug his hole and now it is time to work his way out of it.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I hope he does go back to WVU, it would be good for him. Its well known that strength and conditioning coach Barwis was one of the best influences on Pac. However, I hope the closest he gets to the team is in a video on How to screw up your life.

You know I don't mind him going back to WVU to finish his degree. I think that is a good thing.

It may also be a good thing for him to be close to Barwis or receive some kind of counseling (personal and not professional) from someone like Barwis who is like a father figure for him.

I also realize that the weakness of WVU was it's lack of playmakers in the defensive back field in the 3-5-3.

However with all of that said. I would NOT want him hanging around the team at all.

I don't want even the chance that he starts getting some of those young players to start acting like he does and by his own admissions needing his team (the titans) to have more thugs.

Nope...he can just stay the heck away from those young people.

He wants to redeem himself and his image, go back to WVU, finish his education and do some community service.

Just don't screw up some of the young players.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And the NFL has it's own lawyers, so if Pacman want to go to court then go for it or he can clean his act up and get back into the league. The only person to blame is Pacman he has dug his hole and now it is time to work his way out of it.

its not an either or thing. he can take them to court AND still get back in. no penalty whatsoever.

they tried to change a contract ex post facto and still apply it. its not as if its a very complicated issue.

 

[Charles]

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[Doomsday101]

its not an either or thing. he can take them to court AND still get back in. no penalty whatsoever.

they tried to change a contract ex post facto and still apply it. its not as if its a very complicated issue.

He can take them to court your right, so do it. I'm glad the NFL is getting tough and I'm sure the league attorneys have looked what is going on. I'm sure the NFLPA attorneys have done the same. If Pacman wants his day in court to challenge the league that is his right to do so.

 

[burmafrd]

He can spend more of his money on a futile challenge in court if he still wants to prove his stupidity. You can BET the NFL looked at this VERY carefully to make sure that no court would find cause to change it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He can take them to court your right, so do it. I'm glad the NFL is getting tough and I'm sure the league attorneys have looked what is going on. I'm sure the NFLPA attorneys have done the same. If Pacman wants his day in court to challenge the league that is his right to do so.

my whole thing, dooms, is not that i dont think that Jones should be punished. He was somehow involved with guys that killed two people.

My issue is that you look at what happened with Jamaal Lewis, Ray Lewis and Leonard Little and how the NFL handled that and now after ESPN has been giving so much airtime to Jones and also the Bengals and now the league decides to do something after the fact and then pick and choose who its going to effect?

Porter was arrested and Johnson was convicted both over 30 days ago. The whole thing just stinks of poor leadership. You want a leader to have initiative and to be fair. Goodell is neither.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He can spend more of his money on a futile challenge in court if he still wants to prove his stupidity. You can BET the NFL looked at this VERY carefully to make sure that no court would find cause to change it.

burm excuse me if i dont give anything you say regarding court proceedings or contracts any credence whatsoever. im actually surprised you care as there is noone from south bend concerned here.

 

[burmafrd]

Well, Fuzzy One, where is your law school degree?

 

[superpunk]

He can spend more of his money on a futile challenge in court if he still wants to prove his stupidity. You can BET the NFL looked at this VERY carefully to make sure that no court would find cause to change it.

How would attempting restore his livelihood prove his stupidity?