Maybe the right move is to trade Micah

stiletto

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,367
Reaction score
14,883
Should be willing to sell pretty much anyone to get as much draft capital as possible, same thing Washington did last year. Problem is, they won't and they resigned a QB that isn't capable of winning deep in the playoffs. We're screwed.
 

Hawkeye0202

Well-Known Member
Messages
25,809
Reaction score
46,943
Imagine watching how bad this defense is at rushing the passer and saying “lets trade a top-5 pass rusher in the league”
This is my problem with trading Parsons.......
* who's replacing his double-digit sacks
* who's replacing the tons of QB pressures
Sunday gave us a peek of what the D is like w/o him. It wasn't so much the sacks we didn't Goff had little or no pressure and guess what? That trickled right down to the DBs cuz with that kind of time and no pressure any QB will find an open target.


Besides .....raise your hand if you trust Jerry to rebuild this team.....I don't
 

CATCH17

1st Round Pick
Messages
67,580
Reaction score
85,998
It’s the smart move. Which is why it’ll never happen. Instead big and little will make him the highest paid defensive player in history and keep right on being mediocre
It’s sad and I don’t understand why teams do this.

The Vikings are the best team in football right now and they made a bold move and let Cousins go.
 

KJJ

You Have an Axe to Grind
Messages
61,529
Reaction score
38,879
Trading Parsons would be the right move and it wouldn’t shock me if we do it. We’ll never be able to add pieces to this team paying him close to $40 million per season. He’s not worth it.
 

CATCH17

1st Round Pick
Messages
67,580
Reaction score
85,998
This is my problem with trading Parsons.......
* who's replacing his double-digit sacks
* who's replacing the tons of QB pressures
Sunday gave us a peek of what the D is like w/o him. It wasn't so much the sacks we didn't Goff had little or no pressure and guess what? That trickled right down to the DBs cuz with that kind of time and no pressure any QB will find an open target.
We’ll have to draft a young player who can play at a high level for cheap.

Instead of finding a QB we can do it at defensive end.

Every team in the NFL needs what Parsons brings but Dallas has multiple problems.
 

thunderpimp91

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,925
Reaction score
19,100
This is my problem with trading Parsons.......
* who's replacing his double-digit sacks
* who's replacing the tons of QB pressures
Sunday gave us a peek of what the D is like w/o him. It wasn't so much the sacks we didn't Goff had little or no pressure and guess what? That trickled right down to the DBs cuz with that kind of time and no pressure any QB will find an open target.


Besides .....raise your hand if you trust Jerry to rebuild this team.....I don't
I can't disagree, but you have to find a way to open up cap space and acquire some extra picks somehow. They're going to have to get creative in upgrading this team. It doesnt really have to be moving Parsons, but it really does feel like they need to take a step back before they can move forward.
 

Mac_MaloneV1

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,437
Reaction score
5,729
This is my problem with trading Parsons.......
* who's replacing his double-digit sacks
* who's replacing the tons of QB pressures
Sunday gave us a peek of what the D is like w/o him. It wasn't so much the sacks we didn't Goff had little or no pressure and guess what? That trickled right down to the DBs cuz with that kind of time and no pressure any QB will find an open target.


Besides .....raise your hand if you trust Jerry to rebuild this team.....I don't
You don't. If you trade Parsons you completely re-think your approach to defense.

Essentially, you're committing to blitzing often, having a volume of rushers, and getting really creative on the back end. It's hard to do but it is what the Ravens and this year the Vikings, have historically done. There is value in not letting the defense know who is coming, but you can't do that with a player like 11.
 

TheMarathonContinues

Well-Known Member
Messages
83,499
Reaction score
76,338
I’ve never been a fan of this idea and not even sure that I am right now but the Cowboys are in big big trouble with Dak and some of the other veterans they paid.

We have so many holes and a front office that does nothing to improve in free agency.

I think anyone that can be traded for valuable picks has to be considered.

We have no RB’s, WR’s are mediocre, holes on the OL coming up, front 7 on defense is atrocious, and Diggs is only good against the pass.

Also, this offense goes through Dak’s arm and that’s just not a winning recipe.

The Cowboys need to dump as many contracts as they can, get picks, and get younger and faster.

If Parsons gets you multiple firsts then you have to really consider it.

The Lions are where they are now because they made bold moves that got them a ton of draft picks.
The only reason I do it is because I can get at least two first rounders. If I can’t get that I’m not trading him. Trading Micah is stupid but if I can hit on two first rounders for him I’d think about it.
 

CATCH17

1st Round Pick
Messages
67,580
Reaction score
85,998
The only reason I do it is because I can get at least two first rounders. If I can’t get that I’m not trading him. Trading Micah is stupid but if I can hit on two first rounders for him I’d think about it.
We wouldn’t have to do it but the front office created a mess with Prescott.

He needs entirely too much help to be paid like he is getting paid.
 

TheMarathonContinues

Well-Known Member
Messages
83,499
Reaction score
76,338
Imagine watching how bad this defense is at rushing the passer and saying “lets trade a top-5 pass rusher in the league”
I think it’s stupid to trade him but the idea is if you get something like two first round picks for him? You’d have to think about it especially when the guy if I’m not mistaken has gone on record saying he won’t play in this league long.
 

Hawkeye0202

Well-Known Member
Messages
25,809
Reaction score
46,943
We’ll have to draft a young player who can play at a high level for cheap.

Instead of finding a QB we can do it at defensive end.

Every team in the NFL needs what Parsons brings but Dallas has multiple problems.
I see what you are saying, but drafting defensive ends can be tricky, especially if you expect them to have an immediate impact. Look at the last 2 we drafted high ( Mazi and Taco ).
 

CATCH17

1st Round Pick
Messages
67,580
Reaction score
85,998
I see what you are saying, but drafting defensive ends can be tricky, especially if you expect them to have an immediate impact. Look at the last 2 we drafted high ( Mazi and Taco ).
We have to make bold moves.

We are trapped right now under our current build and a bunch of rookies and veteran scrubs isn’t changing anything for next year or the next year.
 

TheMarathonContinues

Well-Known Member
Messages
83,499
Reaction score
76,338
We wouldn’t have to do it but the front office created a mess with Prescott.

He needs entirely too much help to be paid like he is getting paid.
Me trading Micah is irrelevant from Dak. The salary cap is going up and guys like Martin, Steele and Lawrence will be off our books. My concern with Micah is for one I don’t think he’s gonna play in this league very long and I have a chance to get in front of it by getting draft picks for him.

If I can’t get two first I keep him.


Because at the end of the day this front office has shown they won’t spend money on free agency. They would spend money on Jaylen Smith, Zeke, Collins, etc. before they spend money in free agency. They’ve shown us this time and time again.
 

DallasInDC

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,098
Reaction score
4,979
I hate it because Micah is legit legit.

But the Cowboys aren’t contending for anything for a long time unless they dump these contracts.

They can’t win with what they got. They can be mediocre but they aren’t winning anything.
He is legit, legit now, but I have this sinking feeling we are getting ready to see the beginning of his decline due to injuries. The way we use him and the way he plays the game with power and leverage against much larger OL, he is sure to start seeing smaller injuries rack up and soon become more serious injuries. It may not happen, but it is this underlying feeling I'm getting.
 

TheMarathonContinues

Well-Known Member
Messages
83,499
Reaction score
76,338
We have to make bold moves.

We are trapped right now under our current build and a bunch of rookies and veteran scrubs isn’t changing anything for next year or the next year.
You’re asking a GM to change how he operates when there’s no incentive to do it. He has a Hall of Game jacket, he has rings, he’s worth a billion….he has no inventing to change his team got destroyed on his birthday and went on about his life.
 

FVSTONE

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,218
Reaction score
3,153
I’ve never been a fan of this idea and not even sure that I am right now but the Cowboys are in big big trouble with Dak and some of the other veterans they paid.

We have so many holes and a front office that does nothing to improve in free agency.

I think anyone that can be traded for valuable picks has to be considered.

We have no RB’s, WR’s are mediocre, holes on the OL coming up, front 7 on defense is atrocious, and Diggs is only good against the pass.

Also, this offense goes through Dak’s arm and that’s just not a winning recipe.

The Cowboys need to dump as many contracts as they can, get picks, and get younger and faster.

If Parsons gets you multiple firsts then you have to really consider it.

The Lions are where they are now because they made bold moves that got them a ton of draft picks.
The Cowboys would be better off spreading the wealth around on the D-Line and signing numerous players who have something left in the tank. Parsons is proving to be a player that would be better off on a team like the 9ers or Lions, who have a group of players that can get to the QB at any point during the game or can be a disrupter against an opponent's run game. The Cowboys have too much dead weight on their D-Line for Parsons to be affective anymore, he needs to be playing next to other linemen who can pull their weight against both an opponent's passing and run game, without that he's being neutralized game after game by the opponent's Offensive Coordinator.
 

stiletto

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,367
Reaction score
14,883
We wouldn’t have to do it but the front office created a mess with Prescott.

He needs entirely too much help to be paid like he is getting paid.
It makes zero sense that they re-hitched that wagon. Dak is going to end up being a progress stopper to the rebuild that needs to happen.
 

stilltheguru

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,370
Reaction score
14,309
Imagine watching how bad this defense is at rushing the passer and saying “lets trade a top-5 pass rusher in the league”
Is Jerry going to bring in pieces to maximize him? If not it's dumb to pay him just like it was dumb to pay dak. Pieces meaning other all pro defenders with toughness/leadership because 11 sure has none of it. Which is why dlaw told him to his face what he can do and he did nothing. Dlaw knows dude is soft so wasn't tryna heat none of that. There's plenty of people dlaw wouldn't have said that to around the NFL.
 

WillieBeamen

BoysfanfromNY
Messages
16,134
Reaction score
47,073
I think it’s stupid to trade him but the idea is if you get something like two first round picks for him? You’d have to think about it especially when the guy if I’m not mistaken has gone on record saying he won’t play in this league long.
Hes on a HOF trajectory. Hes 1 of only 2 players maybe 3 (Ceedee) that has a shot at the Hall, but we are going to trade him for the unknown?

The guy in charge cant build a team to save his life and we are trusting him to trade our best player so we can draft another guyton and mazi?


No thank you
 

Mac_MaloneV1

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,437
Reaction score
5,729
We wouldn’t have to do it but the front office created a mess with Prescott.

He needs entirely too much help to be paid like he is getting paid.
I knew this was a Dak thread, but I don't understand why people keep saying this nonsense? Do you actually watch any other football? Have you seen the Chiefs, Bills and Chargers this year? The Bengals early in the season? Can someone please explain to me how these QBs have the same exact issues when they don't have talent at WR but the logic only applies to Dak?

EVERY QB needs WRs to have any success. The idea that "the QB is expensive so he should make up for shortfalls" is a) wrong and b) a stupid approach to take.
 
Top