Maybe the right move is to trade Micah

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The Cowboys would be better off spreading the wealth around on the D-Line and signing numerous players who have something left in the tank. Parsons is proving to be a player that would be better off on a team like the 9ers or Lions, who have a group of players that can get to the QB at any point during the game or can be a disrupter against an opponent's run game. The Cowboys have too much dead weight on their D-Line for Parsons to be affective anymore, he needs to be playing next to other linemen who can pull their weight against both an opponent's passing and run game, without that he's being neutralized game after game by the opponent's Offensive Coordinator.
Texans would be a good spot.

Washington is the type of team who could potentially give us the farm for him.

I’m thinking teams with cheap QBs playing at a high level would be where Parsons needs to go because he’s going to get QB money.
 

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Every week we do this when they get their behinds whipped. A few weeks ago we needed to do what the Saints did. Crazy.
 

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Hes on a HOF trajectory. Hes 1 of only 2 players maybe 3 (Ceedee) that has a shot at the Hall, but we are going to trade him for the unknown?

The guy in charge cant build a team to save his life and we are trusting him to trade our best player so we can draft another guyton and mazi?


No thank you

Then we just continue down this dead end path?

Brighter days are not ahead for the Cowboys right now. They need to do something bold.

Paying everyone who can’t get the job done and a few rookies sprinkled in will get us nowhere.
 

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Is Jerry going to bring in pieces to maximize him? If not it's dumb to pay him just like it was dumb to pay dak. Pieces meaning other all pro defenders with toughness/leadership because 11 sure has none of it. Which is why dlaw told him to his face what he can do and he did nothing. Dlaw knows dude is soft so wasn't tryna heat none of that. There's plenty of people dlaw wouldn't have said that to around the NFL.
Because of the last 4 home games, this is fanbase is pretending as if the defense is whats holding the Cowboys back from winning anything.

The defense with Micah was absolutely good enough to win a Super Bowl in 2022
 

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I can't disagree, but you have to find a way to open up cap space and acquire some extra picks somehow. They're going to have to get creative in upgrading this team. It doesnt really have to be moving Parsons, but it really does feel like they need to take a step back before they can move forward.
I agree, but a few quality free agents close the gap. That's what we are seeing now IMO ........the wide margin between our top (core ) players and bottom feeders thrown into the starting lineup. You can't build a top team off draft picks and free agents from the bottom of the pole. As good as your core players are, they can only do so much w/o decent help and coaching.
 

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Brighter days are not ahead for the Cowboys right now. They need to do something bold
Maybe it's not something bold Catch........just be smarter playing the free agent market. Derrick Henry is a perfect example.......
 

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Then we just continue down this dead end path?

Brighter days are not ahead for the Cowboys right now.
They need to do something bold.

Paying everyone who can’t get the job done and a few rookies sprinkled in will get us nowhere.
I agree but Micah is a cornerstone piece. Im not trading him while I have a $60m QB that definitely isnt or wont live up to his contract.

Id be down to trade Micah if we didnt sign Dak to that stupid contract before the season
 

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Because of the last 4 home games, this is fanbase is pretending as if the defense is whats holding the Cowboys back from winning anything.

The defense with Micah was absolutely good enough to win a Super Bowl in 2022
No it wasn't. Dak is mid, run game scheme is mid and defense was above average after December. A defense that couldn't force one turnover vs San fran wasn't good enough man.


https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/dallas-cowboys/results/2022

After December that looks like a championship defense? I'm telling you Micah, Diggs and Bland as your all pros is the softest group you could have. It's over. Niners all pros are warner, bosa, Ward and Hufanga. You don't see a difference in attitude/toughness?
 

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A 2nd???

Also, he slid in the draft???
If that's all I can get then yes and if I remember correctly he did slide because of character concerns.

Micah started out being a generational player but most of us predicted he would turn into this. It's the culture. He went from really wanting to win to really wanting to do a podcast, take games off, and get paid.
 

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Then we just continue down this dead end path?

Brighter days are not ahead for the Cowboys right now. They need to do something bold.

Paying everyone who can’t get the job done and a few rookies sprinkled in will get us nowhere.
It's the atmosphere of the team. You can't change that-I don't care who you get rid of. Or who you bring in. The wet paint atmosphere on the walls will get on them also. 30 years of the same thing shows this to be correct.
 

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I'm trading Micah for just a first if that's all that's out there. I might even trade him for a second if I have to. There's a reason he slid in the draft but of course that's never stopped us from using a premium pick.
He didn't slide in the draft
 

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Hes on a HOF trajectory. Hes 1 of only 2 players maybe 3 (Ceedee) that has a shot at the Hall, but we are going to trade him for the unknown?
It's more than compensation. You also have to keep in mind the salary cap and the contract he is going to get next summer.

You thought CeeDee and Dak killed the salary cap, wait until you see what Parsons does to the remaining crumbs left.
 

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No it wasn't. Dak is mid, run game scheme is mid and defense was above average after December. A defense that couldn't force one turnover vs San fran wasn't good enough man.


https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/dallas-cowboys/results/2022

After December that looks like a championship defense? I'm telling you Micah, Diggs and Bland as your all pros is the softest group you could have. It's over. Niners all pros are warner, bosa, Ward and Hufanga. You don't see a difference in attitude/toughness?
Im looking a defense that gave up 16.5 points in the playoffs with an offense that averaged 27.5 points in the regular season which is exactly the problem with this team

You keep harping on attitude/toughness as if we had Minkah, TJ, and Hayward on our team instead of those 3 (Micah, Bland, Diggs) the offense would be better
 

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I agree, but a few quality free agents close the gap. That's what we are seeing now IMO ........the wide margin between our top (core ) players and bottom feeders thrown into the starting lineup. You can't build a top team off draft picks and free agents from the bottom of the pole. As good as your core players are, they can only do so much w/o decent help and coaching.
If this were March of 2024 and we were getting ready for this season I would agree completely with that. Going into 2025 though that gap is only going to get bigger with your losses to this years expiring deals and grabbing a few 2nd/3rd wave free agents just gets you back to where you are now IMO. They're already pretty much up against the cap for 2025, granted some of that will get pushed forward, maybe a couple cuts to save a few million, but you need to look at extensions for at least Micah/Bland and possibly Tyler Smith, now all of a sudden you're tight on cap space for 2026/2027 too. Unless Jerry goes full Philly mode in relation to the cap I just don't see a free agency frenzy. I'd love to see a change in philosophy but I'm not holding my breath.
 

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Im looking a defense that gave up 16.5 points in the playoffs with an offense that averaged 27.5 points in the regular season which is exactly the problem with this team

You keep harping on attitude/toughness as if we had Minkah, TJ, and Hayward on our team instead of those 3 (Micah, Bland, Diggs) the offense would be better
Remember what I said when we pay the assassin. You gonna be talking about him like you do dak 2 years into the deal.

And if we had the 3 players you named we'd have a defense with leadership we could be proud of. That much I do know. Not guys scared to tackle and shook of dk Metcalf cause he's big.

But as for Dak I already told you what it is with him. I'm just saying these other dudes just as weak.
 

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It's more than compensation. You also have to keep in mind the salary cap and the contract he is going to get next summer.

You thought CeeDee and Dak killed the salary cap, wait until you see what Parsons does to the remaining crumbs left.
Ok lets play this game.

We trade Micah for two firsts (doubtful because the GM is always getting g’d in all the trades he makes), is this team a better team going forward with the 2025 and 2026 draft versions of Mazi Smith and Tyler Guyton?
 

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I agree but Micah is a cornerstone piece. Im not trading him while I have a $60m QB that definitely isnt or wont live up to his contract.

Id be down to trade Micah if we didnt sign Dak to that stupid contract before the season

I think that’s the opposite mentality.

Micah needs to go to a team that can pay him 45 million a year with a cheap QB.

Micah and Dak aren’t going to be getting us anywhere on their own.
 

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Remember what I said when we pay the assassin. You gonna be talking about him like you do dak 2 years into the deal.

And if we had the 3 players you named we'd have a defense with leadership we could be proud of. That much I do know. Not guys scared to tackle and shook of dk Metcalf cause he's big.

But as for Dak I already told you what it is with him. I'm just saying these other dudes just as weak.
Bro you know what the real problem on the field is with this team. Toughness does play a part in it, but you know the biggest problem. And he just got $60m
 

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2 1s , 1 this year and next year , and a 2nd.. or a 1st 2nd 3rd and next years 2nd. If you’re gonna trade him . You go big or keep him
No team is trading valuable draft capital for Micah Parsons or any other player in the NFL. The Lions are good enough to compete for a Super Bowl this season. The just lost their top pass rusher and probably the best one in the league. They won’t be offering a first for any player to replace the production they lost yesterday. If they won’t, no team will offer anything significant for Parsons.

1st and 2nd round draft picks are too valuable to part with in today’s NFL.
 
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