Mayock: Jared Goff 'stepped up and put on a show' at pro day By Chase Goodbread

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every top qb prospect seems to do great at there pro days
Bridgewater didn't, and it was a big part of the reason he fell so far.

Of course, they're top prospects for a reason, so wouldn't you expect them to show well?
 

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He did a ton of progression stuff.

yup. People have too many agendas with the qbs. I say I dont want Goff because he comes from a spread offense, never really won any big games and looks weak to me. For somebody to say Wentz wasn't in a pro style offense is just being a Goff guy. Goff went to the line and ran the same bs Robert Griffin did at Baylor. fact
 

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There is individual reality which is created inside each person, and then there is actuality which is across the board factual for everyone.

The reality is some people believe Goff and Wentz were rated as well as Mariota and Winston after the College season, actuality is far from that notion. The Collegiate careers of Goff and Wentz pale in comparison to Mariota and Winston. The vast majority of the Hype for Wentz and Goff came in pre-draft and post season.

Society is a hype driven plague of Draft regret.
 

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I woudnt really call it a Pro offense ,he mostly threw to his first read a majority of the time just like most college QBs.

but after taking a 3,5,7 step drop from under center, and often with a run fake built in...all the while turned away from the pass routes developing...........unlike a spread offense QB standing 5 yards back and watching a single receiver for which the play was designed for all the way.
 

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but after taking a 3,5,7 step drop from under center, and often with a run fake built in...all the while turned away from the pass routes developing...........unlike a spread offense QB standing 5 yards back and watching a single receiver for which the play was designed for all the way.
Thats why I laugh at people propping up Goffs completion percentage while downing Cook for his (another pro style qb). Funny stuff
 

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Thats why I laugh at people propping up Goffs completion percentage while downing Cook for his (another pro style qb). Funny stuff

When you can't complete 60% of you passes in college scouts should be worried. Sure style of play matters but it still raise a red flag.
 

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When you can't complete 60% of you passes in college scouts should be worried. Sure style of play matters but it still raise a red flag.
Thats fair, but from what I've seen from him, he'll be a starting quarterback for years.
 

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Thats why I laugh at people propping up Goffs completion percentage while downing Cook for his (another pro style qb). Funny stuff

fwiw, Goff's accuracy translated to the passing drills at the combine as well. I'll admit, I didn't watch Cook throw at the combine (not sure if he did), but spread offense or not, Goff is the more accurate passer.
 

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fwiw, Goff's accuracy translated to the passing drills at the combine as well. I'll admit, I didn't watch Cook throw at the combine (not sure if he did), but spread offense or not, Goff is the more accurate passer.

He was throwing with no pass rush wearing shorts. People acting like Goff is cant miss is ridiculous to me. All of the "we'd be stupid to pass him" talk, like he's Andrew Luck or something.
 

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He was throwing with no pass rush wearing shorts. People acting like Goff is cant miss is ridiculous to me. All of the "we'd be stupid to pass him" talk, like he's Andrew Luck or something.

it's ridiculous to call any prospect a can't miss, even Andrew Luck, because sometimes, teams miss on can't miss prospects.

I think it'd be stupid to pass on him because imo, this draft lacks elite talent. If Patrick Peterson was in this draft, sure take him at #4 over a QB. If Kahlil Mack was in this draft, sure take him at #4, but I just don't see this draft as having those type of prospects.
 

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Thats fair, but from what I've seen from him, he'll be a starting quarterback for years.

For his sake I hope he does. Personally I avoid any college QB who doesn't show increase completion percentage, TD/int ratio over college career. Sure there's a few % point that can improve after you turn pro but there's a limit. By time you hit 21-22 and you been spinning the ball for 10+ years already, you either can hit the WR in stride or you can't. IMO.
 

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For his sake I hope he does. Personally I avoid any college QB who doesn't show increase completion percentage, TD/int ratio over college career. Sure there's a few % point that can improve after you turn pro but there's a limit. By time you hit 21-22 and you been spinning the ball for 10+ years already, you either can hit the WR in stride or you can't. IMO.

Wentz was a WR his Jr. year in high school
When you can't complete 60% of you passes in college scouts should be worried. Sure style of play matters but it still raise a red flag.

QBF AgeAtt Comp%AY/ATD-INTTD%INT%RuYds
Jared Goff21.21568 62.38.1666.11.9-114
Paxton Lynch21.91205 62.97.5364.91.9687
Connor Cook22.91170 57.58.2496.11.9209
Carson Wentz23.0612 64.18.8317.42.31028
C Hackenberg20.91235 56.16.5173.92.5-242
 

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Wentz was a WR his Jr. year in high school


QBF AgeAtt Comp%AY/ATD-INTTD%INT%RuYds
Jared Goff21.21568 62.38.1666.11.9-114
Paxton Lynch21.91205 62.97.5364.91.9687
Connor Cook22.91170 57.58.2496.11.9209
Carson Wentz23.0612 64.18.8317.42.31028
C Hackenberg20.91235 56.16.5173.92.5-242

Those quotes were in discussion about Cook not Wentz.
 
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